I missed the Twitch Stream because work crap, what did they say?

rayeab16_ESO · July 2015

i've been in the arg, ah i mean disscussion threads (evil grin) about whether or not the city DLC is for me.

i dont PvP as im totaly useless at it (unless someone needs a target to carpet bomb an area from the balista, in which case, IM YER GAL XD) and the only things i would actualy visit the city would be to see it. i've seen it in the 2 or 3 mins i watched of the stream befor i went to bed, and its all busted ass ect so meh, my tourist trips cut short lol. if i can get everything else i need via orsinium, then i dont even care about TeaBag stones anymore ^^.
murder, fold, spindle and mutilate everyone to your dark hearts content, let the blood run free since the people i was concerned for, need never set foot in the city.

its all good for once (i think)

Xendyn · July 2015

rayeab16_ESO wrote: »

i've been in the arg, ah i mean disscussion threads (evil grin) about whether or not the city DLC is for me.

i dont PvP as im totaly useless at it (unless someone needs a target to carpet bomb an area from the balista, in which case, IM YER GAL XD) and the only things i would actualy visit the city would be to see it. i've seen it in the 2 or 3 mins i watched of the stream befor i went to bed, and its all busted ass ect so meh, my tourist trips cut short lol. if i can get everything else i need via orsinium, then i dont even care about TeaBag stones anymore ^^.
murder, fold, spindle and mutilate everyone to your dark hearts content, let the blood run free since the people i was concerned for, need never set foot in the city.

its all good for once (i think)

Are you on PC? If you want to tour and actually take a look at it I'd go ahead and download the PTS and hop in

You never know, you might see something that will entice you...

OnThaLoose · July 2015

Greatsword wrote: »

Veteran Ranks will be removed, expect it after Orsinium

DLC schedule for the next 12 months:

Q3|2015 Imperial City

Q4|2015 Orsinium

Q1|2016 Thieves' Guild

Q2|2016 Dark Brotherhood

Controller support for PC coming soon (on the fly switch between PC and console UI upon key/button press)

Finally....

Attorneyatlawl · July 2015

KerinKor wrote: »

If you want to learn more about Orsinium, Murkmire and spellcrafting, you can watch Quakecon 2014:

Completely out of date, since then they've stated categorically work on Spellcasting has STOPPED and they have no idea if/when they'll restart it, and Murkmire you'll notice isn't on the radar now either.

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Last I heard, they were working on it still as a little further out due to other intervening things like the champion system, buy to play, console launch, and the imperial city. Spellcrafting is still coming at some point. Murkmire was a preview as was wrothgar... essentially everything got pushed back just like the imperial city. So it isn't out of date or irrelevant overall, especially spellcrafting which will eventually land and is truly drool-worthy

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Pyr0xyrecuprotite · July 2015

My understanding for those who are PvP averse (like me), is that if you do not get the new IC DLC, you can still:
1. level up to vr15 and vr16 - by doing regular activities that give you XP
2. unlock the new crafting passives, if your crafting skill is high enough (and you have skill points), so you can craft vr15 and 16 gear at normal crafting stations or those in the regular zones outside IC.
3. get mats for crafting vr15 and vr16 gear by deconstructing mob drops and undaunted chest items from group dungeons scaled to at least vr15. Expect a lot of farming of Silver pledges as well as Gold pledge runs.
4. AS WE CURRENTLY ALREADY DO WITH SPECIAL PVP ITEMS, you will also be able to buy SOME things from other players via guild traders etc.. Twelve of the new IC drop sets will be bind on pickup, but SIX new "Tel Var purchaseable" sets and items from the 3 new craftable sets can be traded if desirable, as can the mats etc. Some of the rare and valuable Cyrodiil PvP items will drop at higher levels in the Rewards for the Worthy, so it may be possible to buy higher level ShadowWalker, Ravager, Cyrodiil and similar set items from PvP players (presumably at an outrageous premium), if you have enough gold. (Don't quote me on this, this is just the way I interpret the first posting in this itemization thread, and even if I am right things may change based on PTS feedback).

So, there is a LOT you can benefit from even if you opt not to buy the new DLC, or are not currently subscribed.

k2blader · July 2015

And every time it'll cost another $25?

Aerius_Sygale · July 2015

GamerzElite wrote: »

Greatsword wrote: »

Veteran Ranks will be removed, expect it after Orsinium

DLC schedule for the next 12 months:

Q3|2015 Imperial City

Q4|2015 Orsinium

Q1|2016 Thieves' Guild

Q2|2016 Dark Brotherhood

Controller support for PC coming soon (on the fly switch between PC and console UI upon key/button press)

You forget to mention:
*Cross Faction play is coming (Play with other alliance player)
*Xivkyn Motif & Glass Motif
*3 new craftable style
*2 New undaunted Monster Mask
* Primsmatic Enchatment (Buff Health, Mana and Stamina regen)

Did they say Health, Magicka and Stamina regeneration? I thought it would just be the usual stat increase in general, just to all three instead of just one. Hopefully the boost isn't cut literally to a third for each of the stat buffs, otherwise you can already get almost the same result by enchanting 3 pieces with one, then 2 with the other two of the three primary stats and get almost the same result...

AaronLannister · July 2015

yaaay still no mention of Text Chat...

UrQuan · July 2015

AaronLannister wrote: »

yaaay still no mention of Text Chat...

But we've had text chat for over a year!

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Death_Prophet83 · July 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

AaronLannister wrote: »

yaaay still no mention of Text Chat...

But we've had text chat for over a year!

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Fixed. How's the new Batman PC, oh wait.... Loading..... Loading.....

But seriously we need text chat wish they would have mentioned it.

ZOS_GinaBruno · July 2015

Xendyn wrote: »

rayeab16_ESO wrote: »

did anyone mention if the materials you can get from deconstructing drops in the IC dungeons will be available in the orsinium areas, and if orsinium would also add another couple of VR levels?

main reasons i am asking is because
1) imperial city does not match my playstyle so i would like to miss it out, but i am a crafter so i would like to know if i DO miss out ImpCity, am i missing out on anything or can i get it via orsinium?
2) is orsinium going to require we have allready made it thru the ImpCity (and lvl'd to VR16) to enter, or as someone else said in another thread, will orsinium auto level me to the needed level for the content? is it for VR16+ or for lvl 50 (and can i use it to not have to go thru cadwells silver and gold?)

to clarify...
i understand that, if i miss out on Imperial city i will be missing out on content. the stuff i (personaly) would like to see but would miss is the crafting side. i know about there being deconstructable drops in the dungeons. others tell me that those drops (of VR15+16 gear) will begin to drop in the updated dungeons outside of the city. there are crafting benches. im assuming they are like the ones you get out in the wilds, that have specific sets you have to visit to craft (like deaths wind and ashen grip ect) and i would miss out on those sets (but i expect they are going to have good sets for pvp mainly, so i can miss those out likely) if i dont get ImpCity (or buy them from someone who has the dlc)
what i want to know is.... are those the only things i would be missing out on (other than the pvp and dungeons and storyline ect) if i just give the city a miss? if those are the only things (the sets craftable from the city) then i can safely miss out on it and just grab Orsinium?

No details like that on Orsinium yet, but..
It's my understanding that yes, gear drops from other dungeons scaled to VR15-16 will give you a chance at the new crafting materials which will give you the ability to craft the current sets at VR15-16.

It looks like you're pretty accurate in your assessment

Yep, just confirming that is the case! You will be able to deconstruct gear from the older dungeons in order to get VR15-16 crafting mats.

Attorneyatlawl · July 2015

k2blader wrote: »

And every time it'll cost another $25?

Actually, it's $18.18 worth of crowns unless buying one of the small packs, which costs more the same way buying a single bottle of soda is more expensive per ounce than a twelve-pack at the grocery

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Averya_Teira · July 2015

k2blader wrote: »

And every time it'll cost another $25?

Still cheaper than $15 a month IF they release a DLC every 3 months. That's a HUGE if though....

UrQuan wrote: »

AaronLannister wrote: »

yaaay still no mention of Text Chat...

But we've had text chat for over a year!

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How's your $400-800+ upgrade per 2 years to stay on top of your glorious graphics ?

ckbud · July 2015

@ZOS_GinaBruno Will the Craglorn content, VDSA and Trials, scale up to the new VR15/16 level of our characters and drop VR15/16 items and rewards? It would be a pity if this content doesn't get updated to scale up to the group leader's level because when I reach VR15/16, content dropping VR12 gear won't seem as appealing. I really like VDSA, and would like to get VR16 gear from this too after update 7. Please let me know that this content will get the same treatment and attention as the dungeons.

Attorneyatlawl · July 2015

Averya_Teira wrote: »

k2blader wrote: »

And every time it'll cost another $25?

Still cheaper than $15 a month IF they release a DLC every 3 months. That's a HUGE if though....

UrQuan wrote: »

AaronLannister wrote: »

yaaay still no mention of Text Chat...

But we've had text chat for over a year!

This post has been brought to you by Glorious PC Master Race.

How's your $400-800+ upgrade per 2 years to stay on top of your glorious graphics ?

$400 or so is more than enough to keep well ahead of consoles... and well, not having to pay $30-60 per game constantly leaves you not only coming out ahead monetarily by a long shot if you play many games, but you also have a high end PC for work. A console doesn't do much but game

, and doesn't keep up with the graphics by a long shot. Total cost of ownership is much lower, and quality is much better

. Consoles have a nice ease of use advantage for the non-technically-inclined, but that's about it. You can play on your couch by using an HDMI cable with a PC and wireless keyboard/mouse or controller just like a console

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WhiteCoatSyndrome · July 2015

ckbud wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Will the Craglorn content, VDSA and Trials, scale up to the new VR15/16 level of our characters and drop VR15/16 items and rewards? It would be a pity if this content doesn't get updated to scale up to the group leader's level because when I reach VR15/16, content dropping VR12 gear won't seem as appealing. I really like VDSA, and would like to get VR16 gear from this too after update 7. Please let me know that this content will get the same treatment and attention as the dungeons.

+1 this. It's already annoying that AA and Hel Ra only seem to give V12 stuff when I'm V14.

RedTalon · July 2015

Those upgrades your talking about more has to do with wanting better graphics then the console versions of the game, you can still do well with graphic cards that three to four years old oddly enough((sometimes older.)), that has been one good thing about game devs mainly focusing on consoles lately, made things a little less graphic intense and video cards for pc are always light years ahead of the console ones. It generally slows down the need to upgrade

Darlgon · July 2015

ZOS_GaryA wrote: »

Hey there @JMadFour,

You can actually watch a restream of the QuakeCon presentation here. Enjoy!

Really needs the edit to chop off the first 17:00 of "Waiting for the panel to get in gear."

Davor · July 2015

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Averya_Teira wrote: »

You can play on your couch by using an HDMI cable with a PC and wireless keyboard/mouse or controller just like a console .

I tried that and the experience is not the same right now as I am playing on the console. That might change once PC have controller support, I will give it a try again.

Rosveen · July 2015

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

k2blader wrote: »

And every time it'll cost another $25?

Actually, it's $18.18 worth of crowns unless buying one of the small packs, which costs more the same way buying a single bottle of soda is more expensive per ounce than a twelve-pack at the grocery .

I don't drink soda often enough to justify buying a twelve pack. Buying a twelve pack for one can of soda and letting the other 11 sit in my fridge forever is a terrible waste of money, wouldn't you say?

UrQuan · July 2015

Rosveen wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

k2blader wrote: »

And every time it'll cost another $25?

Actually, it's $18.18 worth of crowns unless buying one of the small packs, which costs more the same way buying a single bottle of soda is more expensive per ounce than a twelve-pack at the grocery .

I don't drink soda often enough to justify buying a twelve pack. Buying a twelve pack for one can of soda and letting the other 11 sit in my fridge forever is a terrible waste of money, wouldn't you say?

Since the cans don't go bad, no it's not a waste of money. If your concern is the cost of keeping those extra 11 cans cold in your fridge, you should know that a full fridge uses less energy to stay cold than an empty fridge does. If your concern is that those extra 11 cans are taking up room and your fridge is always overfull, then just keep 10 of those cans in a cupboard or something, and only keep 1 in the fridge. That way, when the rare day comes that you want a can, it's nice and cold, but you're only taking up a tiny bit of space in your fridge.

Either way, assuming you'll eventually go through the 12 cans, it's always better to buy in bulk rather than a single can.

DrizztWulfgar · August 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

k2blader wrote: »

And every time it'll cost another $25?

Actually, it's $18.18 worth of crowns unless buying one of the small packs, which costs more the same way buying a single bottle of soda is more expensive per ounce than a twelve-pack at the grocery .

I don't drink soda often enough to justify buying a twelve pack. Buying a twelve pack for one can of soda and letting the other 11 sit in my fridge forever is a terrible waste of money, wouldn't you say?

Since the cans don't go bad, no it's not a waste of money. If your concern is the cost of keeping those extra 11 cans cold in your fridge, you should know that a full fridge uses less energy to stay cold than an empty fridge does. If your concern is that those extra 11 cans are taking up room and your fridge is always overfull, then just keep 10 of those cans in a cupboard or something, and only keep 1 in the fridge. That way, when the rare day comes that you want a can, it's nice and cold, but you're only taking up a tiny bit of space in your fridge.

Either way, assuming you'll eventually go through the 12 cans, it's always better to buy in bulk rather than a single can.

MInd has been Blown....

Farorin · August 2015

rayeab16_ESO wrote: »

i've been in the arg, ah i mean disscussion threads (evil grin) about whether or not the city DLC is for me.

i dont PvP as im totaly useless at it (unless someone needs a target to carpet bomb an area from the balista, in which case, IM YER GAL XD) and the only things i would actualy visit the city would be to see it. i've seen it in the 2 or 3 mins i watched of the stream befor i went to bed, and its all busted ass ect so meh, my tourist trips cut short lol. if i can get everything else i need via orsinium, then i dont even care about TeaBag stones anymore ^^.
murder, fold, spindle and mutilate everyone to your dark hearts content, let the blood run free since the people i was concerned for, need never set foot in the city.

its all good for once (i think)

It's worth giving a look, plus they have two new PVE dungeons and once you discover them for the first time, you can port to them without going back to the Imperial City.