Camo hunter exploit.

QuebraRegra · July 2015

I'm lost in the sauce, I haven't used it.

What exactly stacks? With it's self (multiple activations)? Or is it with another skill?

I know that most skills that duplicate boosts to a particular facet don't stack. Could this just be a lucky shot or the 4%?

Lettigall · July 2015

Because of ZOS tolerance to exploiters more and more players openly abuse bugs. And why not exploit? Risk of getting banned is low but profit high!

G0ku · July 2015

Morvul wrote: »

G0ku wrote: »

I haven´t seen one lately not using at least one broken thing in this game...

well, to be fair it's almost impossible to make a viable build that does not include at least one broken skill/gear/whatever

This is not meant as an excuse to all the deliberate exploit usage, but simply to point out how much in the game is actually broken in some way...

well, those players I talk of where big numbers in (small-scale) pvp before they started to use these skills. they were able to do just fine without them. But yes, if they the others do it why shouldn´t I? This attitude is what makes pvp suck at the moment. I lost all respect for these guys, especially the skilled ones. No proud or anything. Maybe they think the best chance to get it fixed is to exploit it as much as possible so "scrubs/pugs" like me "whine" on the forums....

marco.cuevas.ventob14_ESO · July 2015

tino.antoninieb17_ESO wrote: »

Obviously camo hunter in this form and shape is in the game for ages. If it is exploit it would be removed. It is overpowered but some other spells and abilities are as well. ZOS is making rules with doing or with not doing things in regard to spells and mechanics. Why we should think even is it exploit if ZOS obliviously purposely keeping it in the game for ages. If they consider something as game breaking they should react in couple of days and that is not just their right - its their obligation . That reaction time for consequence is having measurable and non measurable effects on game. VDSA leader-boards are shaped with people who use camo hunter. How ZOS can solve that ?

This....

Saying that Camo Hunter while you are using all the other exploits to your benefit is the SAME thing...
at this point every class/weapon/skill has an exploit and if you are exploiting it in any way you shouldn't even
be complaining in this thread and by looking at the count of posts in here I am sure some of you are using exploits
so why even post in here?

Onicx · July 2015

Machiavelli wrote: »

Guess one benefit of console is that you don't have to worry about exploits like this. We are behind on updates so they'll be patched before we receive the same update that caused it.

This is certainly happening on Xbox because I have seen it.

I hope they fix it soon.

G0ku · July 2015

marco.cuevas.ventob14_ESO wrote: »

I am sure some of you are using exploits
so why even post in here?

I guess because they feel forced to do it out of the feeling they can´t compete otherwise. Nevertheless they want these things out of pvp.

If there was a bug which would make it possible to wear a crown costume without purchasing it - how fast you think they would pump out a hotfix? ^^

AceTheDazed · July 2015

well there is only a 4% chance for it to proc tho right? 15% on indead but still. that doesnt seem to bad and dont seem broken even if it is strong its not consistent right?

Akavir_Sentinel · July 2015

AceTheDazed wrote: »

well there is only a 4% chance for it to proc tho right? 15% on indead but still. that doesnt seem to bad and dont seem broken even if it is strong its not consistent right?

There is more than one aspect to this exploit. The damage and duration can be stacked, and it procs far more often than is normally possible, even against normal players and mobs.

dday3six · July 2015

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Guys this expoit does not work on PC by the way. On PC only the duration is bugged, but that's like whatever. Not stackable.

The damage is stackable on PC. I've tested it out and reported this, as have many others.

Can you explain how it stacks? Obviously not how to recreate it, but what sort of numbers you are getting and with an example ability since I'm still not convinced it's people being unaware of it proccing with each melee attack or tick which has been around since forever.

The way it works is there are multiple instances of Hunter (it works with all of them) all active at once. If you looked in the character screen it shows up multiple times, that is the stacking part. Then if one procs they all do, and since the ability is refreshed against undead and daedra, you can maintain around 4 to 10 stacks most times. So with just random numbers if you had 4 stacks and they dealt 4000 damage they would hit 16000 from just Hunter without added variables of crit, etc.

Draxys · July 2015

They will soon delete this thread and then the great game of whack a mole will continue. ZOS would rather keep this knowledge as limited as possible (which is not very limited at the moment) than actually fix it in a timely manner. They have always behaved like that and somehow think its ok for business. Suffice to say that ZOS are maybe the worst business I have ever encountered when it comes to business decisions.

SirAndy · July 2015

AceTheDazed wrote: »

well there is only a 4% chance for it to proc tho right?

Wrong ... That's what all the threads are about in the first place, it's currently BROKEN and procs far more often than what the tooltip implies ...

QuadroTony · July 2015

ethernal duration its just visual bug

i tried it many times - the effect still exist - but no procs at all

jircris11 · July 2015

Machiavelli wrote: »

Guess one benefit of console is that you don't have to worry about exploits like this. We are behind on updates so they'll be patched before we receive the same update that caused it.

xb and ps are filled with bugs, most of them pc is rid of some we both share. and some unique to consoles lol.

Xantaria · July 2015

***. I know how the bug works and I can confirm neither Expert Hunter nor any of their Morphs are stackable in the PC version. there are ways to create an Eternal Duration Camouflaged Hunter but that's it for PC version.

On PS4 / XBONE I can confirm that it works from what I've seen.

NDwarf · July 2015

Xantaria wrote: »

***. I know how the bug works and I can confirm neither Expert Hunter nor any of their Morphs are stackable in the PC version. there are ways to create an Eternal Duration Camouflaged Hunter but that's it for PC version.

On PS4 / XBONE I can confirm that it works from what I've seen.

It won't work on console or I'm doing it wrong. Posted in another thread I tried stacking camo hunter, hitting a target from stealth with a focus aim snipe shot and it does not one shot anything. It seems to hit like a regular snipe shot, so again either I did the glitch wrong or people think it works on console but something else is going on here.

Stacks of camo hunter do jack squat at least with snipe shot *shrug*

Junipus · July 2015

dday3six wrote: »

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Guys this expoit does not work on PC by the way. On PC only the duration is bugged, but that's like whatever. Not stackable.

The damage is stackable on PC. I've tested it out and reported this, as have many others.

Can you explain how it stacks? Obviously not how to recreate it, but what sort of numbers you are getting and with an example ability since I'm still not convinced it's people being unaware of it proccing with each melee attack or tick which has been around since forever.

The way it works is there are multiple instances of Hunter (it works with all of them) all active at once. If you looked in the character screen it shows up multiple times, that is the stacking part. Then if one procs they all do, and since the ability is refreshed against undead and daedra, you can maintain around 4 to 10 stacks most times. So with just random numbers if you had 4 stacks and they dealt 4000 damage they would hit 16000 from just Hunter without added variables of crit, etc.

Definitely doesn't work on PC. Have been testing it the last few hours and it still hits for the same amount. It might well be a bug on consoles, but there's no instances of it one-shotting anything in PC land.

Xantaria · July 2015

NDwarf wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

***. I know how the bug works and I can confirm neither Expert Hunter nor any of their Morphs are stackable in the PC version. there are ways to create an Eternal Duration Camouflaged Hunter but that's it for PC version.

On PS4 / XBONE I can confirm that it works from what I've seen.

It won't work on console or I'm doing it wrong. Posted in another thread I tried stacking camo hunter, hitting a target from stealth with a focus aim snipe shot and it does not one shot anything. It seems to hit like a regular snipe shot, so again either I did the glitch wrong or people think it works on console but something else is going on here.

Stacks of camo hunter do jack squat at least with snipe shot *shrug*

Test it on a Vampire or Mobs that get affected by the bonus chance in PvE. if you have 14 Huntesr Runnning and then hit a target you have 14 times a chance of 15% for the additional dmg. When you use Camouflaged Hunter and shoot from stealth I think it always proccs? not sure. Go try that out.

dlepi24 · July 2015

I use camo hunter all the time. Sorry you chose vamp, I didn't. I don't bother stacking it with caltrops and acid spray but without the exploit it still hits hard and with enough weapon damage you can one shot any vamp. That's how it should be. There should be a consequence for going vamp. I'm glad there is. There's no point in getting upset. PC is plagued by they-who-shall-not-be-named (on the forums at least) running around in perma mist form. You have macro snipe-ambush people. You have double mundus stone people. You have camo hunters. The entire game is nothing but people cheating or exploiting and ZOS doesn't care. If you can't beat them, might as well join them. I say we just air all the exploits and ruin PvP until they have to fix it or lose their income.

Machiavelli · July 2015

dlepi24 wrote: »

I use camo hunter all the time. Sorry you chose vamp, I didn't. I don't bother stacking it with caltrops and acid spray but without the exploit it still hits hard and with enough weapon damage you can one shot any vamp. That's how it should be. There should be a consequence for going vamp. I'm glad there is. There's no point in getting upset. PC is plagued by they-who-shall-not-be-named (on the forums at least) running around in perma mist form. You have macro snipe-ambush people. You have double mundus stone people. You have camo hunters. The entire game is nothing but people cheating or exploiting and ZOS doesn't care. If you can't beat them, might as well join them. I say we just air all the exploits and ruin PvP until they have to fix it or lose their income.

This is why I personally prefer true subscription based games. This is a common occurrence in most free to play/micro-transaction games. When there is a mandatory sub to play the company is compelled to keep an eye on game breakers and produce a steady flow of content, or they risk losing their revenue. While with f2p games they don't have to really stay on their toes and they become too relaxed with their support. They entice optional subs with bonuses to game play and make their real money for micro transactions. They tend to focus more on novelty patches like fixing pet animations and producing more costumes. Wouldn't be surprised if they introduce some type of housing or guild base, selling building material and furniture while one shot exploits run rampant.

Xantaria · July 2015

Machiavelli wrote: »

dlepi24 wrote: »

I use camo hunter all the time. Sorry you chose vamp, I didn't. I don't bother stacking it with caltrops and acid spray but without the exploit it still hits hard and with enough weapon damage you can one shot any vamp. That's how it should be. There should be a consequence for going vamp. I'm glad there is. There's no point in getting upset. PC is plagued by they-who-shall-not-be-named (on the forums at least) running around in perma mist form. You have macro snipe-ambush people. You have double mundus stone people. You have camo hunters. The entire game is nothing but people cheating or exploiting and ZOS doesn't care. If you can't beat them, might as well join them. I say we just air all the exploits and ruin PvP until they have to fix it or lose their income.

This is why I personally prefer true subscription based games. This is a common occurrence in most free to play/micro-transaction games. When there is a mandatory sub to play the company is compelled to keep an eye on game breakers and produce a steady flow of content, or they risk losing their revenue. While with f2p games they don't have to really stay on their toes and they become too relaxed with their support. They entice optional subs with bonuses to game play and make their real money for micro transactions. They tend to focus more on novelty patches like fixing pet animations and producing more costumes. Wouldn't be surprised if they introduce some type of housing or guild base, selling building material and furniture while one shot exploits run rampant.

lol. They didn't give a *** when it was subscription based.

dlepi24 · July 2015

Xantaria wrote: »

Machiavelli wrote: »

dlepi24 wrote: »

I use camo hunter all the time. Sorry you chose vamp, I didn't. I don't bother stacking it with caltrops and acid spray but without the exploit it still hits hard and with enough weapon damage you can one shot any vamp. That's how it should be. There should be a consequence for going vamp. I'm glad there is. There's no point in getting upset. PC is plagued by they-who-shall-not-be-named (on the forums at least) running around in perma mist form. You have macro snipe-ambush people. You have double mundus stone people. You have camo hunters. The entire game is nothing but people cheating or exploiting and ZOS doesn't care. If you can't beat them, might as well join them. I say we just air all the exploits and ruin PvP until they have to fix it or lose their income.

This is why I personally prefer true subscription based games. This is a common occurrence in most free to play/micro-transaction games. When there is a mandatory sub to play the company is compelled to keep an eye on game breakers and produce a steady flow of content, or they risk losing their revenue. While with f2p games they don't have to really stay on their toes and they become too relaxed with their support. They entice optional subs with bonuses to game play and make their real money for micro transactions. They tend to focus more on novelty patches like fixing pet animations and producing more costumes. Wouldn't be surprised if they introduce some type of housing or guild base, selling building material and furniture while one shot exploits run rampant.

lol. They didn't give a *** when it was subscription based.

Quite a few of the exploits have been around since beta, unfortunately. I feel like ZOS just doesn't understand how good their PvP mechanics are if they could just fix the problems. I feel like they would rather focus on PvE stuff or crown store items. I don't blame them for crown store items because I want them to have revenue and be able to produce the content for us, I just wish they would focus on fixing what's broken as well.

Lynx7386 · July 2015

I tried to see what this bug was all about tonight, going after a few world bosses that I'd missed while leveling up in vet zones. With my stamina bar (on a stamina built character, mind you) I can cast camo hunter about 10 times before I run dry, which makes things difficult. Against most of those tough world bosses, I noticed little to no difference in how easy it was to kill them. Some went down very quickly, others took the same amount of damage i'd be dealing if I didnt even have camo hunter.

Not seeing what all the fuss is about. Very expensive ability, very RNG. Then again, I havent used it in pvp, and I'm not going to, if you need bugs to prove how 'good' you are, you arent good enough.

Lava_Croft · July 2015

ZOS doesn't care about actual exploiting, they only care about talking about exploiting.

Keeping up appearances much?

QuadroTony · July 2015

i tried this on PC - exploit not working
looks like its console issue

technohic · July 2015

Google it people. Camo Hunter exploit. Watch the video.

I probably shouldn't say anything. After a couple threads lasted a little while about one hack, I saw it a lot more in regular towns.

QuadroTony · July 2015

i tried google but no videos at all
can you type right sentence to google please?

technohic · July 2015

eso camouflage hunter exploit

Draxys · July 2015

Xantaria wrote: »

Machiavelli wrote: »

dlepi24 wrote: »

I use camo hunter all the time. Sorry you chose vamp, I didn't. I don't bother stacking it with caltrops and acid spray but without the exploit it still hits hard and with enough weapon damage you can one shot any vamp. That's how it should be. There should be a consequence for going vamp. I'm glad there is. There's no point in getting upset. PC is plagued by they-who-shall-not-be-named (on the forums at least) running around in perma mist form. You have macro snipe-ambush people. You have double mundus stone people. You have camo hunters. The entire game is nothing but people cheating or exploiting and ZOS doesn't care. If you can't beat them, might as well join them. I say we just air all the exploits and ruin PvP until they have to fix it or lose their income.

This is why I personally prefer true subscription based games. This is a common occurrence in most free to play/micro-transaction games. When there is a mandatory sub to play the company is compelled to keep an eye on game breakers and produce a steady flow of content, or they risk losing their revenue. While with f2p games they don't have to really stay on their toes and they become too relaxed with their support. They entice optional subs with bonuses to game play and make their real money for micro transactions. They tend to focus more on novelty patches like fixing pet animations and producing more costumes. Wouldn't be surprised if they introduce some type of housing or guild base, selling building material and furniture while one shot exploits run rampant.

lol. They didn't give a *** when it was subscription based.

this combined with literally just not having a clue how to fix sh!t has had disastrous results (looking at you, fps bug)

QuadroTony · July 2015

technohic wrote: »

eso camouflage hunter exploit

omg im glad its not on the PC

vladimilianoub17_ESO1 · July 2015

tried it on PC i dont see any difference stacking it.Only have seen 1 video in youtube using it and it was on console,ps4