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Is zenimax discriminating against deaf people on consoles by not adding text chat

theforgottenking1779
zenimax i think is discriminating against people with disabilitys especially the dear without text chat on console it makes it hard for ppl who can't hear useing area chat to communicate
Edited by theforgottenking1779 on July 24, 2015 3:34PM
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    :'(
  • MangoSsk
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    Uh oh lawsuit lol
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    Yes they are. Also against the Mute.
  • Aett_Thorn
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    Oh jeebus. While it's certainly not a great system because it does impact hearing-impaired people, it's not ZOS being discriminatory.
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    zenimax i think is discriminating against people with disabilitys especially the dear without text chat on console it makes it hard for ppl who can't hear useing area chat to communicate

    You are right good sir. This is unacceptable and hope they help you out.
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  • markt84
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    Hahaha geez, liberals want to cry discrimination over everything
  • Hope499
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    Damn, I guess any game without subtitles actually wants deaf people to die.

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  • Zershar_Vemod
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    What are the exact numbers on deaf / mute console players? Because it unfortunately wasn't large enough I'd image to warrant whatever cost it was to specifically cater to that group.

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  • theforgottenking1779
    In my opinion they are
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  • Lleksu
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    I don't think they are intentionally discriminating against the deaf and hearing impaired, but their poor decision to leave out text chat has resulted in them being left out and effectively treated as second class.

    The fact that it hasn't been added and, even more so, that Zenimax blatantly refuse to comment at all, certainly does make it appear as though they don't care though.

    It's disgusting.
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    What about the blind? Or amputees?

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    markt84 wrote: »
    Hahaha geez, liberals want to cry discrimination over everything

    I'm a liberal and I think that the OP is way over-exaggerating this. Don't bring politics into this because you'll likely end up looking a fool. :)
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    Aett_Thorn wrote: »
    Oh jeebus. While it's certainly not a great system because it does impact hearing-impaired people, it's not ZOS being discriminatory.

    Yep, exactly... as an aside, OP, you want to know the quickest way to get a restaurant owner to stop answering you and ask you to leave? Claiming he's discriminating against you because you're wearing blue socks. ;)
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  • Junipus
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    Do any of the other multilayer team games like mw or halo or cod or tuna have text based team chat?
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  • RobDaCool
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    What are the exact numbers on deaf / mute console players? Because it unfortunately wasn't large enough I'd image to warrant whatever cost it was to specifically cater to that group.

    So what you're saying is, places shouldn't include wheelchair ramps because only, maybe, 2-3 people in wheelchairs shop or go there a month? Nice.
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    Aett_Thorn wrote: »
    markt84 wrote: »
    Hahaha geez, liberals want to cry discrimination over everything

    I'm a liberal and I think that the OP is way over-exaggerating this. Don't bring politics into this because you'll likely end up looking a fool. :)

    The guy who identifies as a liberal is concerned someone else may look foolish. ;)
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    What are the exact numbers on deaf / mute console players? Because it unfortunately wasn't large enough I'd image to warrant whatever cost it was to specifically cater to that group.

    Endless bro Endless people are losing their hearing everyday!
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    In my opinion they are

    Should I file a lawsuit because the lack of given inventory space makes my OCD worse when trying to collect everything?

    You chose to play on consoles, which is automatically inferior. When you take something from PC to console, it has to be downgrade, things need to be taken out, etc. small things like text chat, etc. are not needed for virtually all console players, but unfortunately some are negatively affected by that. You need to understand that very small minorities will not get special treatment at times, and that money will not be put aside for some to just redo parts of a game / product.
    What about the blind? Or amputees?

    I can't dunk a basketball anymore, I don't expect the NBA to lower the rims.

    ^ This.
    Edited by Zershar_Vemod on July 24, 2015 3:07PM
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  • BBSooner
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    It's not discriminatory, it's just a poorly thought out system.
  • Thymos
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    RobDaCool wrote: »
    What are the exact numbers on deaf / mute console players? Because it unfortunately wasn't large enough I'd image to warrant whatever cost it was to specifically cater to that group.

    So what you're saying is, places shouldn't include wheelchair ramps because only, maybe, 2-3 people in wheelchairs shop or go there a month? Nice.

    That's actually a safety concern. If a person in a wheelchair hurts themselves climbing up or down steps, then the proprietor is liable. ADA regulations are there to protect disabled people, not cater to them. Applying that thought point to this thread is asinine.
    Edited by Thymos on July 24, 2015 3:08PM
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  • Sithisvoid
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    Many games provide reasonable accommodations for their hearing impaired, colorblind, and mute customer base. Any developer who does not is certainly questionable in morals.
  • theforgottenking1779
    Zenimax is discriminateing against deaf people it's just the truth of the matter when they made consoles only area chat communication they wasn't thinking about everyone especially hearing impaired ppl
  • Zershar_Vemod
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    RobDaCool wrote: »
    What are the exact numbers on deaf / mute console players? Because it unfortunately wasn't large enough I'd image to warrant whatever cost it was to specifically cater to that group.

    So what you're saying is, places shouldn't include wheelchair ramps because only, maybe, 2-3 people in wheelchairs shop or go there a month? Nice.

    Yup totally.

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    Thymos wrote: »
    RobDaCool wrote: »
    What are the exact numbers on deaf / mute console players? Because it unfortunately wasn't large enough I'd image to warrant whatever cost it was to specifically cater to that group.

    So what you're saying is, places shouldn't include wheelchair ramps because only, maybe, 2-3 people in wheelchairs shop or go there a month? Nice.

    That's actually a safety concern. If a person in a wheelchair hurts themselves climbing up or down steps, then the proprietor is liable. ADA regulations are there to protect disabled people, not cater to them. Applying that thought point to this thread is asinine.

    ^

    Do any of the other multilayer team games like mw or halo or cod or tuna have text based team chat?

    Only discriminators don't have text chat in any multiplayer game!
    Edited by Zershar_Vemod on July 24, 2015 3:09PM
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  • Aett_Thorn
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    Zenimax is discriminateing against deaf people it's just the truth of the matter when they made consoles only area chat communication they wasn't thinking about everyone especially hearing impaired ppl

    Please learn to distinguish YOUR OPINION from fact.

    Also, please learn how to use punctuation.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    No they aren't discriminating at all.
    Consider they've made the game on PC which is the most appropriate gaming machine for anyone with disabilities.

    Also consider if someone does have a vocal handicap or hearing disability they would tend to carefully select games by machine and genre. This would in many cases be a PC choice for hearing or vocal disabilities.

    Your point may be more appropriate to suggest that Sony and Xbox have built machines that do not have those persons with disabilities in mind but it's a far stretch to put that on Zenimax especially because of how customizable the PC version is.

    That just my take tho
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    RobDaCool wrote: »
    What are the exact numbers on deaf / mute console players? Because it unfortunately wasn't large enough I'd image to warrant whatever cost it was to specifically cater to that group.

    So what you're saying is, places shouldn't include wheelchair ramps because only, maybe, 2-3 people in wheelchairs shop or go there a month? Nice.

    That's exactly what he's saying it's ridiculous how zenimax and others don't seem to think of others
  • Zershar_Vemod
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    Zenimax is discriminateing against deaf people it's just the truth of the matter when they made consoles only area chat communication they wasn't thinking about everyone especially hearing impaired ppl

    Or you know, consoles aren't up to snuff and most people use headsets for consoles now a days, so that was the more reliable form of communication shown from whatever focus groups they used.

    RobDaCool wrote: »
    What are the exact numbers on deaf / mute console players? Because it unfortunately wasn't large enough I'd image to warrant whatever cost it was to specifically cater to that group.

    So what you're saying is, places shouldn't include wheelchair ramps because only, maybe, 2-3 people in wheelchairs shop or go there a month? Nice.

    That's exactly what he's saying it's ridiculous how zenimax and others don't seem to think of others

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    How much research did you do before getting the console version?
    Edited by Zershar_Vemod on July 24, 2015 3:14PM
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  • Agobi
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    I think everyone that makes music should be dragged in to court...how dare they make something the deaf can't listen to!! o.O


    sarcasm btw.....
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