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What if... (hypothetical situation)

QuadroTony
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i am a newb and i forgot/dont know/didnt noticed to join to mages guild - first invitation dialog-quest

and i already pickup all lorebooks ingame and have vr14 hero
i cannot level mages guild skilline, because there is no recource for it anymore

what todo?
write to support and ask to reset lorebook progression?
  • Turelus
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    This is interesting indeed.

    Seeing as the books are tracked in the journal though maybe it can see your progress and advance you via the experience you should have?
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  • BuggeX
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    i guess the progress of mageguild is safed, even if you didnt started the quest yet, so is the progress for vamp/ww to if you lvled it once.

    But btw tony, tr it out and let us know, you are the right man for this job
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  • yodased
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    I did this on my templar but not to vr.

    I joined the mages guild at vr1 and was instantly level 7 when I joined
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • QuadroTony
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    yodased wrote: »
    I did this on my templar but not to vr.

    I joined the mages guild at vr1 and was instantly level 7 when I joined

    thanks for info
  • MCMancub
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    I'm pretty sure this can't happen. You can't finish the main story line (at around level 48-V1) without having joined the Mage's Guild. At least that's what I understood.
  • Panth141
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    MCMancub wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure this can't happen. You can't finish the main story line (at around level 48-V1) without having joined the Mage's Guild. At least that's what I understood.

    I joined the mages guild today - at V8 having just started Cadwell's Gold
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  • I_killed_Vivec
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    On a side note...

    I have heard, but I've never been in the position to test, that if you wait until VR14 to finish the Fighter's Guild storyline then the Prismatic Blade is actually worth having.

    One of the worst aspects of the game is getting incredibly precious rewards for saving the world... which you trash two levels later.
  • MCMancub
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    Panth141 wrote: »
    MCMancub wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure this can't happen. You can't finish the main story line (at around level 48-V1) without having joined the Mage's Guild. At least that's what I understood.

    I joined the mages guild today - at V8 having just started Cadwell's Gold

    Wow. How is this allowed? You need to have finished the main story to get to Cadwell's Silver/Gold, and the ending to the main story is that
    the Mages and Fighters guild send you to kill Molag Bal.

    How does it make sense for this to happen without having joined them?
  • tinythinker
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    MCMancub wrote: »
    Panth141 wrote: »
    MCMancub wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure this can't happen. You can't finish the main story line (at around level 48-V1) without having joined the Mage's Guild. At least that's what I understood.

    I joined the mages guild today - at V8 having just started Cadwell's Gold

    Wow. How is this allowed? You need to have finished the main story to get to Cadwell's Silver/Gold, and the ending to the main story is that
    the Mages and Fighters guild send you to kill Molag Bal.

    How does it make sense for this to happen without having joined them?
    The guild storylines aren't directly tied into the main story. You are a champion of your Alliance and are then asked to help the guilds, but I don't recall any dialogue that suggests you have to actually belong to either guild.
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  • Panth141
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    MCMancub wrote: »
    Panth141 wrote: »
    MCMancub wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure this can't happen. You can't finish the main story line (at around level 48-V1) without having joined the Mage's Guild. At least that's what I understood.

    I joined the mages guild today - at V8 having just started Cadwell's Gold

    Wow. How is this allowed? You need to have finished the main story to get to Cadwell's Silver/Gold, and the ending to the main story is that
    the Mages and Fighters guild send you to kill Molag Bal.

    How does it make sense for this to happen without having joined them?

    I definitely completed the main quest without joining the mages guild - though I was in the fighter's guild. IIRC none of the end section of the main quest that your referring to actually stated that you were part of any guild, though - just the usual 'champion'
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    On a side note...

    I have heard, but I've never been in the position to test, that if you wait until VR14 to finish the Fighter's Guild storyline then the Prismatic Blade is actually worth having.

    One of the worst aspects of the game is getting incredibly precious rewards for saving the world... which you trash two levels later.


    THIS is the logic I'm applying on all new characters. I've only completed the first Mages Guild and first Fighters Guild quests only. VR4 (new toons)
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  • Turelus
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    On a side note...

    I have heard, but I've never been in the position to test, that if you wait until VR14 to finish the Fighter's Guild storyline then the Prismatic Blade is actually worth having.

    One of the worst aspects of the game is getting incredibly precious rewards for saving the world... which you trash two levels later.

    Agreed. I always felt these should be special items that level with you so they're one of a kind BoP and special to you.

    Thanks for the info though, I have a character which is VR2 now and not done Fighters Guild, I will get her to VR16 then try and claim the reward.

    Edit: @ZOS_RichLambert any chance these kinds of rewards could be added to the list to be looked over eventually? Doesn't have to be a high priority item but it would be nice to have better rewards for these.

    Escpecially the mages guild staff seeing as the alternate option is so good.
    Edited by Turelus on July 24, 2015 1:48PM
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  • MCMancub
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    MCMancub wrote: »
    Panth141 wrote: »
    MCMancub wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure this can't happen. You can't finish the main story line (at around level 48-V1) without having joined the Mage's Guild. At least that's what I understood.

    I joined the mages guild today - at V8 having just started Cadwell's Gold

    Wow. How is this allowed? You need to have finished the main story to get to Cadwell's Silver/Gold, and the ending to the main story is that
    the Mages and Fighters guild send you to kill Molag Bal.

    How does it make sense for this to happen without having joined them?
    The guild storylines aren't directly tied into the main story. You are a champion of your Alliance and are then asked to help the guilds, but I don't recall any dialogue that suggests you have to actually belong to either guild.

    I realize that the individual story lines don't connect, but the guilds themselves do. If you'll remember,
    you suggest to Galerion that the guilds lead the attack against Molag Bal. After convincing the alliances to allow them to do this, you travel with the guilds to Coldharbour to help defeat Molag Bal.

    I just find it odd that you can get to this step without having to actually be a part of the guilds and earn their trust enough for something like this to take place in the story.
  • QuadroTony
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    vr12 max level reward for the guild quests atm

    interesting they scale up them to vr16?
  • Turelus
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    QuadroTony wrote: »
    vr12 max level reward for the guild quests atm

    interesting they scale up them to vr16?

    Thanks for the info, I will find out with my alt I guess, just need to put the time in leveling.
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  • QuadroTony
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    btw rewards like Prizmatic weapon are BoP or BoE?
  • Turelus
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    QuadroTony wrote: »
    btw rewards like Prizmatic weapon are BoP or BoE?

    I believe Prizmatic is BoP, though I could be wrong.

    Most other quest items are all BoE though so you can sell them. On that note, if anyone has a high VR level Azura staff from the DC zones... I buy! ;P
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  • SeptimusDova
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    Prismatic is BOP The highest lvl is VR12.
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