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How do people deal with nb's?
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jkemmery✭✭✭✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I PVP almost every day. Won awards in Chillerend all 3 times. Yup. I do it a lot. I mow through Night Blade's like butter.
@danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO
Then how do you counter fear? Seriously, I want to know, because it's why I've quit playing.
I have half my stats in health for my VR14 Nord DK, went to all heavy armor, 4 Hist Bark, 4(with weapon) Whitestrakes for health and regen. I can do nothing about Fear, and if I don't die while still in Fear, my health is so low I can't recover before being burned down.
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✭✭✭✭✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »well if you are getting ganked from a stealth stamblade on a horse then it is what it is, that is exactly what they are built for.
I will mark the location on my map when I respawn then run back.
If I"m on my DK i just make sure I have wings up constant as I search the area.
If I am on my templar I have my trusty sentry set to find those buggers.
If I am on my NB I will be patient and wait for him to try to gank someone else and show him a beating afterwards.
If I am on my sorc then shield stack and clanfear (who tends to attack in close range to detected people) and of course bolt for CC and escape.
They have counters, albeit you kind of have to play against their strength which means dying to them first
What he said.
Stamblade here, squishy as hell. They only way I'm killing you is when you're not paying attention. CC me, and I blow all my stam trying to break free, pop a potion (yeah right, one day pressing the button might actually drink the pot) and trying to GTFO.
If you're the fat kid running to catch up with your group, we're after you, if you're on siege and juuuust a ways away from your group, you're our target. Reading your map? We'll help you with that! Did you just jump your mount off the keep wall and took some fall damage... oh man, we're not going to even need to use Soul Harvest.
If I jump out of nowhere and don't have your health down to execute range almost immediately, I start to worry. If you heal and start to get away, I should be running (I should take my own advice) If you find me before I'm ready to wail on you, that's bad.
Survive the initial burst and you can Rocky IV your way out of it.
100% this.
you can be squishy all you want, if all it takes it a button for you to disappear at your leisure while you unblockable aoe cc me then disappear again.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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✭✭✭✭It must be practiced incantation and my 40 points into health. I'm not in front of my Xbox now but with all of the Templar passives in that skill line whenever I pop it I become immune to (I believe) everything for about 6 seconds. One of the passives also grants me a ridiculous armor buff too.
The other thing I do is use a staff. It sticks to targets so even if you're invisible I have a much better idea of where you're going to resurface.
The only thing I ever get 1 shot by is seige and usually that takes two.0 -
jkemmery✭✭✭✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »It must be practiced incantation and my 40 points into health. I'm not in front of my Xbox now but with all of the Templar passives in that skill line whenever I pop it I become immune to (I believe) everything for about 6 seconds. One of the passives also grants me a ridiculous armor buff too.
The other thing I do is use a staff. It sticks to targets so even if you're invisible I have a much better idea of where you're going to resurface.
The only thing I ever get 1 shot by is seige and usually that takes two.
And all of those threads saying Templars need a buff ... SMH0 -
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oh wait.For the Covenant!Svvord - magicka NBLavv - magicka DKPovver - stamina NBPsylint - stamina NBYelruc - magicka Sorc0 -
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✭✭✭✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »It must be practiced incantation and my 40 points into health. I'm not in front of my Xbox now but with all of the Templar passives in that skill line whenever I pop it I become immune to (I believe) everything for about 6 seconds. One of the passives also grants me a ridiculous armor buff too.
The other thing I do is use a staff. It sticks to targets so even if you're invisible I have a much better idea of where you're going to resurface.
The only thing I ever get 1 shot by is seige and usually that takes two.
And all of those threads saying Templars need a buff ... SMH
I agree with you. Templar's are weird but have more potential than any other class if used by someone creative. If you're wondering my full set up is ...
Bar 1: Breath of Life, soul trap morph, radiant oppression, sun fire, and repentance
Bar 2: BoL, rapid maneuvers, silver shards, radiant oppression and repentance
Currently I'm running with 2 staves, but only 1 is necessary.
7/7 heavy armor, all magic enchants, 40 health, 10 Magicka (VR2) imperial templar
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✭✭As a nightblade, i never travel unless im sneaking. It's slow but at least i don't die. Also if i find another NB, i piercing mark them. It help's a lot.
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Pangnirtung✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »It's ridiculous, sorc and nb's need nerfing so much, dk's and templars stand no chance.
Hasn't this been said just about every class since launch?
It seems to me that there will always be some sort of imbalance in the game. Nerf sorcs and nbs and we'll be hearing nerf dks, etc. the following month.
Round and round and round it goes.1 -
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✭✭✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »
Yeah, you also get 5k Armour for both damage types taken away.
That thing is so annoying mostly because it seems to not to anything to me except turn me red. It's taking my armor away then? Hmm ... interesting.
I've dealt with this just by running away. I assumed that it's probably bad but had no idea how.
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Marsgodofwar✭✭✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I PVP almost every day. Won awards in Chillerend all 3 times. Yup. I do it a lot. I mow through Night Blade's like butter.
@danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO
Then how do you counter fear? Seriously, I want to know, because it's why I've quit playing.
I have half my stats in health for my VR14 Nord DK, went to all heavy armor, 4 Hist Bark, 4(with weapon) Whitestrakes for health and regen. I can do nothing about Fear, and if I don't die while still in Fear, my health is so low I can't recover before being burned down.
So share with us your secret.
CC break -> igneous shield -> coagulating blood1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭marked target also makes you unable to stealth from the person who marked you @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESOTl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.0 -
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✭✭✭✭I forgot to mention that I don't use shields of any kind. Just heavy armor and self heals.0 -
jkemmery✭✭✭✭Marsgodofwar wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I PVP almost every day. Won awards in Chillerend all 3 times. Yup. I do it a lot. I mow through Night Blade's like butter.
@danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO
Then how do you counter fear? Seriously, I want to know, because it's why I've quit playing.
I have half my stats in health for my VR14 Nord DK, went to all heavy armor, 4 Hist Bark, 4(with weapon) Whitestrakes for health and regen. I can do nothing about Fear, and if I don't die while still in Fear, my health is so low I can't recover before being burned down.
So share with us your secret.
CC break -> igneous shield -> coagulating blood
EXCEPT YOU CAN'T CC BREAK FEAR!!!!0 -
MrGhosty✭✭✭✭✭Once upon a time after reading these forums I respecced my NB with everything that people claim to be terribly overpowered and "easy button" and strolled triumphantly into Cyrodiil expecting to be a beast among men. Then I realized most of these players must not play on my servers because I still had to use skill to get anything done and most of the obvious "OP" skills were defended against by the majority of the builds.
I wouldn't argue that NBs are terribly powerful, but for the absolute power to happen requires a specific set of circumstances (not including exploits or behaviors that are essentially cheating) in order to pull off. This sort of power generally relies heavily upon the circumstances and if there is any lag the finely tuned build is all but destroyed. We have a meager self heal ability, and to have that ungodly sneak speed we sacrifice either a skill slot or give up a better set bonus in order to stack things in our favor to have a fast sneak speed.
I don't believe in simply saying learn to play when people come to the forums with issues, but I would say that if you don't have enough stamina to deal with breakfree you either need to invest in some cost reductions (champion points, enchants) or put some more points into stamina.You can also invest in upgrading your mount with stamina and not burn it completely out as you ride around cyrodil so that when you get attacked you can simply continue riding away. All of these tactics and the others mentioned before me require some planning and forethought. Just because you are not immediately in front of a keep or outpost does not mean you aren't currently in the war. Anytime you ride through a gate, across a bridge, refuse to leave the main roads you are making yourself a target. Fortunately many of these issues have been addressed and countered so you have the benefit of learning from the wisdom of others.
if all else fails, ride with bait. If you see a low level player riding out, stick near to them/just ahead of them as they will most likely be the first target or always make sure you are in the middle of a large group."It is a time of strife and unrest. Armies of revenants and dark spirits manifest in every corner of Tamriel. Winters grow colder and crops fail. Mystics are plagued by nightmares and portents of doom."1 -
Marsgodofwar✭✭✭Marsgodofwar wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I PVP almost every day. Won awards in Chillerend all 3 times. Yup. I do it a lot. I mow through Night Blade's like butter.
@danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO
Then how do you counter fear? Seriously, I want to know, because it's why I've quit playing.
I have half my stats in health for my VR14 Nord DK, went to all heavy armor, 4 Hist Bark, 4(with weapon) Whitestrakes for health and regen. I can do nothing about Fear, and if I don't die while still in Fear, my health is so low I can't recover before being burned down.
So share with us your secret.
CC break -> igneous shield -> coagulating blood
EXCEPT YOU CAN'T CC BREAK FEAR!!!!
Depends on how big your sacrifice was to the lag god that day :P2 -
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EXCEPT YOU CAN'T CC BREAK FEAR!!!!
Yes you can, but it is the buggiest of all CC. In my experience if you are sprinting when you get feared you can not break it. Also if you are interupted/bashed directly before being feared (disorientated) it can't be broken.Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.1 -
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✭✭✭✭I just went to the wiki. Yup practiced incantation makes you invulnerable to CC and pretty much everything else.
Heals allies nearby allies for [x] every 0.5 seconds for 6 seconds
You cannot move while channeling this ability but gain immunity from all enemy control effects
If memory serves my "X" is 3100.0 -
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I've been feared 100's of times, never once managed to break it. Any other CC, no problem. Fear? NEVER. Hundreds of times. Never broken. So I'm not convinced it's even true that you can.0 -
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I've been feared 100's of times, never once managed to break it. Any other CC, no problem. Fear? NEVER. Hundreds of times. Never broken. So I'm not convinced it's even true that you can.
Fear is buggy with the cc break but it certainly can be broken out of.2 -
jkemmery✭✭✭✭Marsgodofwar wrote: »
I've been feared 100's of times, never once managed to break it. Any other CC, no problem. Fear? NEVER. Hundreds of times. Never broken. So I'm not convinced it's even true that you can.
Fear is buggy with the cc break but it certainly can be broken out of.
I'm not the only person to post this. Video, or I'm not buying it. All of my guild mates say it can't be broken, lot's of other people on this forum say it can't be broken, so either find a link or make a video, because all evidence points to the contrary.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Marsgodofwar wrote: »
I've been feared 100's of times, never once managed to break it. Any other CC, no problem. Fear? NEVER. Hundreds of times. Never broken. So I'm not convinced it's even true that you can.
Fear is buggy with the cc break but it certainly can be broken out of.
I'm not the only person to post this. Video, or I'm not buying it. All of my guild mates say it can't be broken, lot's of other people on this forum say it can't be broken, so either find a link or make a video, because all evidence points to the contrary.
Practiced Incantation makes you invulnerable to fear. See my post above.
In practice if you fear me before I can pop it then maybe you can kill me before I can self heal but with my armor and health it's VERY unlikely. Chances are, though, I'm going to self heal through it, survive your uber NB attack and be at full health in a manner of seconds. Then it becomes a war of resource management which is a Templar's wheelhouse.
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jkemmery✭✭✭✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »Marsgodofwar wrote: »
I've been feared 100's of times, never once managed to break it. Any other CC, no problem. Fear? NEVER. Hundreds of times. Never broken. So I'm not convinced it's even true that you can.
Fear is buggy with the cc break but it certainly can be broken out of.
I'm not the only person to post this. Video, or I'm not buying it. All of my guild mates say it can't be broken, lot's of other people on this forum say it can't be broken, so either find a link or make a video, because all evidence points to the contrary.
Practiced Incantation makes you invulnerable to fear. See my post above.
In practice if you fear me before I can pop it then maybe you can kill me before I can self heal but with my armor and health it's VERY unlikely. Chances are, though, I'm going to self heal through it, survive your uber NB attack and be at full health in a manner of seconds. Then it becomes a war of resource management which is a Templar's wheelhouse.
Doesn't work for my VR14, that's a DK, and the toon I do most of my PVP on, other than some BWB on alts.
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Marsgodofwar✭✭✭Marsgodofwar wrote: »
I've been feared 100's of times, never once managed to break it. Any other CC, no problem. Fear? NEVER. Hundreds of times. Never broken. So I'm not convinced it's even true that you can.
Fear is buggy with the cc break but it certainly can be broken out of.
I'm not the only person to post this. Video, or I'm not buying it. All of my guild mates say it can't be broken, lot's of other people on this forum say it can't be broken, so either find a link or make a video, because all evidence points to the contrary.
I don't care if you believe me or not. I know it can be broken because I've done it, granted it doesn't always work but it's not impossible. I'm not going to go through the trouble of posting a video to prove a point on the internet though.0 -
jkemmery✭✭✭✭Marsgodofwar wrote: »Marsgodofwar wrote: »
I've been feared 100's of times, never once managed to break it. Any other CC, no problem. Fear? NEVER. Hundreds of times. Never broken. So I'm not convinced it's even true that you can.
Fear is buggy with the cc break but it certainly can be broken out of.
I'm not the only person to post this. Video, or I'm not buying it. All of my guild mates say it can't be broken, lot's of other people on this forum say it can't be broken, so either find a link or make a video, because all evidence points to the contrary.
I don't care if you believe me or not. I know it can be broken because I've done it, granted it doesn't always work but it's not impossible. I'm not going to go through the trouble of posting a video to prove a point on the internet though.
My guess is you actually play a nightblade and want to confuse the issue so you don't get a nerf. Because it's not possible to break fear.0 -
k2blader✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »It's ridiculous, sorc and nb's need nerfing so much, dk's and templars stand no chance.
You create a cry-post about NBs, then start crying about sorcs, then start crying about nerfing both? lol
Why don't you just learn to deal with the ganking as best you can, and learn what exploits are going on so you know it's exploits currently unfixed by Zeni and not the class.
Then do something useful and start making posts asking Zeni to fix the exploits.Disabling the grass may improve performance.1 -
Marsgodofwar✭✭✭Marsgodofwar wrote: »Marsgodofwar wrote: »
I've been feared 100's of times, never once managed to break it. Any other CC, no problem. Fear? NEVER. Hundreds of times. Never broken. So I'm not convinced it's even true that you can.
Fear is buggy with the cc break but it certainly can be broken out of.
I'm not the only person to post this. Video, or I'm not buying it. All of my guild mates say it can't be broken, lot's of other people on this forum say it can't be broken, so either find a link or make a video, because all evidence points to the contrary.
I don't care if you believe me or not. I know it can be broken because I've done it, granted it doesn't always work but it's not impossible. I'm not going to go through the trouble of posting a video to prove a point on the internet though.
My guess is you actually play a nightblade and want to confuse the issue so you don't get a nerf. Because it's not possible to break fear.
Nope. I play a Dk. My nb is only vr1 and I've pvpd with him maybe 3 hours tops.0 -
jkemmery✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »It's ridiculous, sorc and nb's need nerfing so much, dk's and templars stand no chance.
You create a cry-post about NBs, then start crying about sorcs, then start crying about nerfing both? lol
Why don't you just learn to deal with the ganking as best you can, and learn what exploits are going on so you know it's exploits currently unfixed by Zeni and not the class.
Then do something useful and start making posts asking Zeni to fix the exploits.
Because most of us aren't aware of the exploits. We only see the results.0