... for the same exact reason why there is no dagger class.

Well this thread is truly facepalm-worthy :^)

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Any class can be an archer, if they learn how to use a bow.

Some classes mesh better with archery then others though... (Nightblade? Sneak attack bonus, invisibility to evade return fire, and "mark" being most useful in ranged attacks...)

I felt like MARK just wasn't worth the slot... wee need a few more slots on the HB.

ARCH3RB13 wrote: »

This bothers me and if some of have seen some of my other posts then you already know that, but seriously I understand everyone can use a bow and and run the skill line up and I have. There is a Magika based DPS character so why not put a physical damage based DPS character. I have always loved using bows in MMO's and when I bought this game I was so excited just to get to the create a character screen and see nothing about rangers or hunters. And everyone says "hey use the nightblade" and I have, I even learned to like my character but it still doesn't change the fact that there is no centered bow class. Just thought I'd go off on my rant.

Thanks for reading

You could be a physical based damage sorc stacking all the weapon power you can, or a physical damage NB, or a physical damage dragon knight, or a templar. Maybe NB is the closest fit to what you are looking for.

This thread has really made me miss the classes and class design element that was a staple of most previous Elder Scrolls games. The four class skill lines still seem so out of place to me.

We could all start with combat, magic, and stealth skill lines open from the beginning. From there you level skills used and buy abilities and passives within those lines to mix and match. Throw in secondary world and racial skill lines and you could have very diverse builds, and be very lore friendly to boot. Play as you want and all.

Here's my Archer class:

He just (and I would like that too) want some sort of new class, like the Ranger or hunter class.

Skills:

Campfire: You can place a campfire which will increase Stam and health regenerations. Also gives camping buff +1000 to all stats for 10 mins

Camouflage: You mask your scent and put mud on your face. You blend in with your environment (much like chameleon spell in previous TES games) Duration: 30 seconds.

Nature calls: You call upon the beasts of the wild to aid. a pack of wolves will help to aid you in battle. 10% chance it will be a bear pack and 1% chance you call upon deers who do nothing.

Cardio/passive: All those days spending in the woods have given you a better workout then insanity. +20% extra runspeed.

Tracking/passive: You can see foottracks of all players in the vicinity also stealhed ones. You can tell how old these tracks are and the estimate distance they are in

Bowtard/passive: light and heavy attacks with bow do 10% more damage and attack speed is upped with 20% (at skill 3/3)

Bow elite/passive: all skill-attacks with Bow do 15% more damage. Range is increased with 50 meters.

Tree hugger/passive: You can climb tree's and make furhats out of small animals.

The difficulty for many is in TES games "classes" are more or less fluid and always have been. The previous TES single player games had "classes" but they were really only a starting point or a guideline rather than a mold the character was cast in forever more. All TES characters had access to all available skills, weapons and armor and so it was really more up to the player mold the character into the class they wanted.

ESO as a MMO has tried to stay somewhat true to that concept but did need to create some class separation. They created a good balance in that all classes have access to all weapon, armor, world and guild skills but ensure a little variation based on the synergies the classes have with certain skill lines but not so much as to exclude any class from those. In many ways it's brilliant but for those that want clear Arch Types it's confusing. This confusion is further exacerbated by the concrete mixture of magicka and stamina abilities within all skill lines.

In the past it was virtually impossible for someone to be effective focusing on Stamina so 80% of the population was wearing light armor and using staffs. ZoS listened to the community and began to make adjustments so there could be a variety of viable builds. There's still more adjusting that needs to be done but what you are looking for is really only limited by the way you build out your characters.

I would suggest a Stamina NB Bow build with Medium armor. I think you'll enjoy it.

Knootewoot wrote: »

He just (and I would like that too) want some sort of new class, like the Ranger or hunter class.

Skills:

Campfire: You can place a campfire which will increase Stam and health regenerations. Also gives camping buff +1000 to all stats for 10 mins

Camouflage: You mask your scent and put mud on your face. You blend in with your environment (much like chameleon spell in previous TES games) Duration: 30 seconds.

Nature calls: You call upon the beasts of the wild to aid. a pack of wolves will help to aid you in battle. 10% chance it will be a bear pack and 1% chance you call upon deers who do nothing.

Cardio/passive: All those days spending in the woods have given you a better workout then insanity. +20% extra runspeed.

Tracking/passive: You can see foottracks of all players in the vicinity also stealhed ones. You can tell how old these tracks are and the estimate distance they are in

Bowtard/passive: light and heavy attacks with bow do 10% more damage and attack speed is upped with 20% (at skill 3/3)

Bow elite/passive: all skill-attacks with Bow do 15% more damage. Range is increased with 50 meters.

Tree hugger/passive: You can climb tree's and make furhats out of small animals.

This is hilarious!..truly brilliant!

Bosmer?

If ZoS started making classes that are bound to certain weapons/non-class skill lines, then the people that are already complaining about the lack of freedom will be even more upset. The classes now are made so that you can play any role, with any weapon and you can chose if you want to go stam or magicka. If you have a class that is bound to bow, then that class is probably only viable as a ranged stamina DD.

I do agree on the point that there should be more classes tho

Because then there might be useless/needless classes. You can't just have class based on one weapon. There are more interesting classes I'd like to see than archers, lol. Can't imagine using bow from lvl 1 up to vr14. pls no
Other than that I am all for a new class.

If you could change the skin of your pets to look like animals then a stamina/bow/medium armor sorc is more or less a hunter. You got a buff that increase your physical damage, you got a pet, you got a minor armor buff, you got an escape ability and you can stealth.

I made a copy of my old DaoC norse hunter that way and she can do exactly the same, just with a clanfear instead of a wolf.

Tors wrote: »

The whole point in ESO, and one of the reasons its so good is that there are NO specific character types.

Play as you please (to some extent)

Wear the armour you please

magic based or melee, any class is adept at it.

One quick fix for you would be to put a sticker on the monitor screen where the word night blade comes up on the character screen. Write Archer on it.

A stam based KB using a bow and arrow IS an archer.


If you require rigid class types, then look for a different game, dont try and get this one changed to suit you.

Just this.

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Each class can play effectively with a bow (and medium armor), except sorcs.

I've actually been playing around with a bow & medium armour stamina build sorc lately. The character is still low level, but it's basically I send in a Clannfear to engage the mobs, then shred them at range with my bow skills. Works great so far - I almost never even get hit in combat. Mind you, that's in solo PVE, and I'm sure that build wouldn't work nearly as well in PVP where the players aren't going to say "hey, let's fight this summoned clannfear and ignore the person over there shooting at us with a bow".