Why is there no archer class

ARCH3RB13 · July 2015

This bothers me and if some of have seen some of my other posts then you already know that, but seriously I understand everyone can use a bow and and run the skill line up and I have. There is a Magika based DPS character so why not put a physical damage based DPS character. I have always loved using bows in MMO's and when I bought this game I was so excited just to get to the create a character screen and see nothing about rangers or hunters. And everyone says "hey use the nightblade" and I have, I even learned to like my character but it still doesn't change the fact that there is no centered bow class. Just thought I'd go off on my rant.

Thanks for reading

ARCH3RB13 · July 2015

ARCH3RB13 wrote: »

This bothers me and if some of have seen some of my other posts then you already know that, but seriously I understand everyone can use a bow and and run the skill line up and I have. There is a Magika based DPS character so why not put a physical damage based DPS character. I have always loved using bows in MMO's and when I bought this game I was so excited just to get to the create a character screen and see nothing about rangers or hunters. And everyone says "hey use the nightblade" and I have, I even learned to like my character but it still doesn't change the fact that there is no centered bow class. Just thought I'd go off on my rant.

Thanks for reading

Should have specified ranged DPS

Thymos · July 2015

ARCH3RB13 wrote: »

ARCH3RB13 wrote: »

This bothers me and if some of have seen some of my other posts then you already know that, but seriously I understand everyone can use a bow and and run the skill line up and I have. There is a Magika based DPS character so why not put a physical damage based DPS character. I have always loved using bows in MMO's and when I bought this game I was so excited just to get to the create a character screen and see nothing about rangers or hunters. And everyone says "hey use the nightblade" and I have, I even learned to like my character but it still doesn't change the fact that there is no centered bow class. Just thought I'd go off on my rant.

Thanks for reading

Should have specified ranged DPS

My first character was a Sorcerer that used a bow... did a LOT of ranged DPS. I ranged with spells, charged my bow, etc. It was good for the solo experience, but not much more. This character was stamina based, and even has some stamina based class skills now.

Then I made a Templar that uses restoration and destruction staves. Does a lot of Ranged DPS while I'm levelling and doing most of the solo content.

lathbury · July 2015

there is no specific 2h class or dw class or resto class whats your point?

BBSooner · July 2015

Bows are a weapon, not a class.

Draxys · July 2015

facepaaallllmmmmm

UrQuan · July 2015

There's no class focused around any of the weapons. Why should bows be any different? Any class can be a ranged stamina DPS with a bow.

Thymos · July 2015

@UrQuan is right.

They just kind of broke the mechanic by having the staff skills use MP, which goes hand in hand with the majority of class skills, since they're all MP based. However, they've tweaked and tweaked. Now lots of stamina builds are quite viable.

Sallington · July 2015

I don't see what the problem is with making your own ranger/archer class. You can even go as far as using Trap Beast from the Fighter's Guild skill line.

lolo_01b16_ESO · July 2015

There is no such thing as a ranged dps class in this game, neither stamina nor magicka based. Every class will do most dps when fighting in melee range.

Lenikus · July 2015

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

There is no such thing as a ranged dps class in this game, neither stamina nor magicka based. Every class will do most dps when fighting in melee range.

...you sure ?

Thymos · July 2015

I always hated getting repeatedly sniped by archers, then I started doing it. It's easier to just keep doing it now that they removed the required minimum distance.

adriant1978 · July 2015

Same reason there is no mage class or swordsman class: any class can use any weapon, and weapon skills are distinct from class skills.

lolo_01b16_ESO · July 2015

Lenikus wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

There is no such thing as a ranged dps class in this game, neither stamina nor magicka based. Every class will do most dps when fighting in melee range.

...you sure ?

Not 100% certain about magicka Templars, but for the rest I'm sure.

Pirhana7_ESO · July 2015

ARCH3RB13 wrote: »

This bothers me and if some of have seen some of my other posts then you already know that, but seriously I understand everyone can use a bow and and run the skill line up and I have. There is a Magika based DPS character so why not put a physical damage based DPS character. I have always loved using bows in MMO's and when I bought this game I was so excited just to get to the create a character screen and see nothing about rangers or hunters. And everyone says "hey use the nightblade" and I have, I even learned to like my character but it still doesn't change the fact that there is no centered bow class. Just thought I'd go off on my rant.

Thanks for reading

I think the Bow build you are looking for is the NightBlade, medium armor, bow, stamina build. It is basically your general archer from most games. Big sneak attack damage, and sustained single target dps, as well as the longest range, with great escape tools.

Zershar_Vemod · July 2015

BBSooner wrote: »

Bows are a weapon, not a class.

This.

Pirhana7_ESO · July 2015

ARCH3RB13 wrote: »

This bothers me and if some of have seen some of my other posts then you already know that, but seriously I understand everyone can use a bow and and run the skill line up and I have. There is a Magika based DPS character so why not put a physical damage based DPS character. I have always loved using bows in MMO's and when I bought this game I was so excited just to get to the create a character screen and see nothing about rangers or hunters. And everyone says "hey use the nightblade" and I have, I even learned to like my character but it still doesn't change the fact that there is no centered bow class. Just thought I'd go off on my rant.

Thanks for reading

What is this magika based character your talking about? all 4 classes can go stamina or magika. All 4 classes can go any weapon. There is no class designed just for one certain weapon type so why should bow be teh ONLY weapon to get that?

leepalmer95 · July 2015

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Lenikus wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

There is no such thing as a ranged dps class in this game, neither stamina nor magicka based. Every class will do most dps when fighting in melee range.

...you sure ?

Not 100% certain about magicka Templars, but for the rest I'm sure.

Sooo what about sorc? have you ever been 1 hit sniped?

lolo_01b16_ESO · July 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Lenikus wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

There is no such thing as a ranged dps class in this game, neither stamina nor magicka based. Every class will do most dps when fighting in melee range.

...you sure ?

Not 100% certain about magicka Templars, but for the rest I'm sure.

Sooo what about sorc? have you ever been 1 hit sniped?

As a sorc you will lose the damage from lightning form and its disintegration procs if you go ranged and none of your skills will do more damage when you are ranged, so you loose damage.

The only skills that did oneshot me since the last major update have been wrecking blow and dawnbreaker of smithing.

ARCH3RB13 · July 2015

I completely understand what the majority of you are saying bow is weapon not a class, and yes I've seen mages run with a sword but for the most part a mage is ranged DPS. And I also think that keeping it so everyone can use any weapon is awesome because it let's you build your character, for the guy who says there is no ranged DPS class in this I do beg to differ, and if it's true which I think it's not then they should put one in two in fact one Magika based and one stamina based.

ARCH3RB13 · July 2015

And Lolo I think your full of it bro please take a sorc learn how to play him well and go toe to toe with a dragon knight or a melee nightblade

tallenn · July 2015

A "class" in ESO is simply 3 skill lines, nothing more. A sorcerer is not a "magic user", nor a dragon knight a "fighter". A sorcerer is just a character with the sorcerer skill lines.

predkill29 · July 2015

ARCH3RB13 wrote: »

And Lolo I think your full of it bro please take a sorc learn how to play him well and go toe to toe with a dragon knight or a melee nightblade

Just because he uses a bow on a sorccer means nothing. You can use any weapon on any class it may not be the best but whatever works for him.

ARCH3RB13 · July 2015

predkill29 wrote: »

ARCH3RB13 wrote: »

And Lolo I think your full of it bro please take a sorc learn how to play him well and go toe to toe with a dragon knight or a melee nightblade

Just because he uses a bow on a sorccer means nothing. You can use any weapon on any class it may not be the best but whatever works for him.

Wasn't busting on him because he uses a bow as a sorc was busting on him because according to him there is no ranged DPS class

Blade_07 · July 2015

Make a Bosmer character and level bow. Thats the closest you will get to an archer.

Reznique · July 2015

I do agree that ESO needs more classes, having 4 classes in an mmo in 2015 is kinda...meh

However, I myself cannot really think of the skills that could be implemented into the pure archer class. Classes such as hunter etc are potentially more diverse imo.

JDar · July 2015

There were archer classes in Morrowind and Oblivion. Instead, the archer class got rolled into Nightblade, which was always more of a caster class.

I've said it a million times, ZoS butchered the lore in this regard.

Sallington · July 2015

OLIVI3R wrote: »

I do agree that ESO needs more classes, having 4 classes in an mmo in 2015 is kinda...meh

However, I myself cannot really think of the skills that could be implemented into the pure archer class. Classes such as hunter etc are potentially more diverse imo.

They need less classes and more skill lines. You should have seen the commotion that was around when they announced there was going to be 4 mandatory starting classes in and Elder Scrolls game.

Shunravi · July 2015

Sallington wrote: »

OLIVI3R wrote: »

I do agree that ESO needs more classes, having 4 classes in an mmo in 2015 is kinda...meh

However, I myself cannot really think of the skills that could be implemented into the pure archer class. Classes such as hunter etc are potentially more diverse imo.

They need less classes and more skill lines. You should have seen the commotion that was around when they announced there was going to be 4 mandatory starting classes in and Elder Scrolls game.

I'm stll ticked

Pheefs · July 2015

Breton Templar Archer & Bosmer Nightblade Hunter, those are my Bow characters...

both a ton of fun!

Tors · July 2015

The whole point in ESO, and one of the reasons its so good is that there are NO specific character types.

Play as you please (to some extent)

Wear the armour you please

magic based or melee, any class is adept at it.

One quick fix for you would be to put a sticker on the monitor screen where the word night blade comes up on the character screen. Write Archer on it.

A stam based KB using a bow and arrow IS an archer.

If you require rigid class types, then look for a different game, dont try and get this one changed to suit you.