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Remove Momentum's Morph Rally to increase viability for other weapon class's.

  • leepalmer95
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    Bloodgharm wrote: »
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    Vigor will be moved to alliance rank 5 in patch 7. Then every stamina class will have a good heal.

    Done.

    I've never entered Cyrodiil in this game. I'm not too into pvp, but I'd be willing to put in the effort to get a decent stam based heal out of it. About how much time am I going to spend getting to rank 5 in AvA?

    Rank 5 isn't hard shouldn't take too long.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Lynx7386
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    Leave Rally unchanged
    One of my characters is rank 3 and has only entered cyrodiil like 4 times
    PS4 / NA
    M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
    Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
    Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • Emma_Overload
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    Give Dw/Sword and Shield user's a Burst heal (within the Kit, not Vigor) to compensate for Rally
    ""2 hand user's have it way to good right now."

    LOL, no they don't. This is classic nerf-beggar logic.

    Nerf beggar? I want to see more build diversity in pvp. All i see are 2 hand user's everywhere and it's all because of Rally.

    The reason you don't see much diversity is BECAUSE of all the nerfs that have happened over the past year.... nerfs just like the one you are asking for now. I can remember when 2Hers were only a modest fraction of the player population. What happened since then ? NERFS! Here's just ONE example out of dozens:

    Dual Wield used to have a nifty defensive skill called "Sparks" that allowed you to cause melee attackers to miss a large % of their attacks. It was tricky to use and very situational, but it was great when it worked. So what do you think happened? PvPers cried and cried and called it "OP", until finally the devs gave in and REMOVED it. Nerfs like that have a way of causing players to migrate from one weapon skill to another, like a game of musical chairs where only one is left standing.

    I can guarantee you that some of those 2Hers you see would MUCH rather be using some other weapon, but they feel forced into using the "lesser of evils". The best solution to the 2H "problem" is to go back and BUFF the other weapon lines so that they don't suck anymore. If ZoS gave you the nerf you wanted, all that would happen is that most players would shift over to the next "least bad" option, probably Bow.

    Edited by Emma_Overload on July 21, 2015 3:04PM
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  • Bloodgharm
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    Give Dw/Sword and Shield user's a Burst heal (within the Kit, not Vigor) to compensate for Rally
    Yeah, I blame the pvpers for the issues with weapon balancing. It's ultimately a problem with any unevenly-balanced pvp games on the market. Any game that allows separate classes and builds suffer from this problem that ultimately one class or build will feel superior. Even though it might be perfectly balanced, as soon as people start to complain, it becomes a problem that needs to be "fixed". Destiny still suffers from this problem even though its classes are extremely similar and more comes down to player skill in combat.

    Although it will never happen, I think that pvp should be a homogenized game mode where everyone has the same weapons and skills and it all comes down to player skill. It would be more like a Halo type of game, and would certainly get boring, but it's the only way to truly balance everything and be able to leave the pve portion of the game alone.
  • Sandshark95
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    Leave Rally unchanged
    I like the fact that different weapons force you to play differently. If all the weapons were "equal", the game would get boring quickly.

    That said, I'm not against buffing DW and 1h/Shield when it comes to options for survivability/damage. Rally should stay though.
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