Poor Sportmanship/Bulling

GreySix · July 2015

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

So many cliches and stereotypes in this thread who insist they don't condone bullying but then dismiss it in the same sentence.

Unfortunately this game only supports good sportsmanship if the players involved understand the concept.

Case in point:

I'm a good and known ganker, however I don't hit non-vet characters and don't teabag or emote other players. If I get killed by skilled players who out skilled me I try and whisper them to congratulate them where possible and you'd be surprised the number of people out there who are decent. I also hate when fellow players camp spawn points inside the gates and force any groups I'm in to go somewhere else if I can. This is good sportsmanship since it gives enemy players a chance to get some play in and at least try to beat me/us. It also means PvP lasts longer than just making people quit and then sitting there for ages with nothing to do.

Some people might say that as a ganker I'm the epitome of bad sportsmanship, however the game caters for ganking and has counters to deal with it unlike teabagging corpses or having a 20 man raid kill you as soon as you set foot outside your home base.

As for those who do the teabagging, it's annoying and a sign of immaturity, but take solace in the occasional moments where they get killed by your allies or the 3rd alliance or where their activities blind them to the incoming train of friendly reinforcements. Simply repay the compliment after they've been steamrolled by their own stupidity.

Well, when you're not a kid fresh out of high school/college/university (or still in it), then such things naturally won't appeal to you.

Of course these days I refer to anyone under 40 as still a kid.

Xantaria · July 2015

I always teabag people I killed. Expecially when it was a 1v1. I HAVE to do it, you know? And when the teabagged person then decides to write to you the funniest conversations happen. Totally worth it!

lathbury · July 2015

reality check this is not bullying. those from the UK probably have seen the recent viral video of what bullying is. this is someone being overly sensitive to something that happens on screen. The same screen which only seconds ago would have shown their character getting hit with arrow, set fire to or hit repeatedly hit with an axe etc.
If your that sensitive to things on screen maybe give games especially online ones a miss. Either that or your qq because your pride got hurt deal with it it happens to all of us we all die there is no one in cyrodiil runnig around with no deaths.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · July 2015

If you are laying there in Cyrodiil long enough for someone to teabag you did you ever consider that someone may be doing it (or other emotes) to get you to respawn somewhere else? Granted I usually do it for my own amusement but if I see your dead carcass laying near a keep, I'm going to assume you're only doing it so that someone can res you so you can kill more of my teammates.

Tors · July 2015

/teabag

Leandor · July 2015

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

If you are laying there in Cyrodiil long enough for someone to teabag you did you ever consider that someone may be doing it (or other emotes) to get you to respawn somewhere else? Granted I usually do it for my own amusement but if I see your dead carcass laying near a keep, I'm going to assume you're only doing it so that someone can res you so you can kill more of my teammates.

I did it for the tick.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · July 2015

Leandor wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

If you are laying there in Cyrodiil long enough for someone to teabag you did you ever consider that someone may be doing it (or other emotes) to get you to respawn somewhere else? Granted I usually do it for my own amusement but if I see your dead carcass laying near a keep, I'm going to assume you're only doing it so that someone can res you so you can kill more of my teammates.

I did it for the tick.

Never considered that. When this situation happens it usually sends me into emote overdrive. Haha.

Quick side story ... 2 days ago my buddy and I fought off 5 nightblades ranging from level 20 to VR14 (we are VR2 and VR7). When we fought off all the cannon fodder we focused on the VR14 and took him down. Big PVP moment there. In order to celebrate we "burried the body" and played music. The VR14 refused to respawn so for a solid 15 minutes we just kept on doing it because his buddies kept on coming back to try to res him. Eventually about 20 people got together and zerged us to death. They followed it up by parading on my corpse and conducting what looked like a 15 piece orchastra.

I deserved it and realized what it was. A backhanded show of respect for a tough opponent. If I sucked they wouldn't have even bothered. If I didn't spawn camp the VR14s body I also would have died much quicker too when they rezzed him.

Moral of the story ... stuff happens. Not everything is a referendum on your feelings. And sometimes, when adults are having fun, disrespect can be the highest form of respect.

eventide03b14a_ESO · July 2015

Nestor wrote: »

The easy solution would be to get rid of the emote that they do the Tea Bagging with, then it won't happen.

No, I don't know the emote, I just saw someone in my group doing it to a boss in Craglorn one time.

You mean crouch, crouch, crouch? It's not an emote, it's a mechanic...

THEDKEXPERIENCE · July 2015

We should get rid of walking in this game. It offends me because I like to sit in a chair.

eventide03b14a_ESO · July 2015

Look, "tea bagging" is stupid and juvenile, and I don't do it myself. I have also never been offended when someone does it to me. To get so worked up about it is just as bad as the person doing it. This isn't a case of bullying it's a case of poor sportsmanship. Bullying would be someone harassing you with whispers, which people have also done to me. Again I don't whisper people because I am a mature adult and I have better things to do. But if someone did whisper me and I didn't like it, I would just block them.

OdinForge · July 2015

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Look, "tea bagging" is stupid and juvenile, and I don't do it myself. I have also never been offended when someone does it to me. To get so worked up about it is just as bad as the person doing it. This isn't a case of bullying it's a case of poor sportsmanship. Bullying would be someone harassing you with whispers, which people have also done to me. Again I don't whisper people because I am a mature adult and I have better things to do. But if someone did whisper me and I didn't like it, I would just block them.

The amazing ignore function.

Keep_Door · July 2015

nothing new in gaming deal with it or get out lol

https://youtu.be/LNN2ygwV_3c

strikeback1247 · July 2015

I seriously cannot understand HOW people can get affected by this emotionally in real life... If I see someone teabagging me, I see it as a challenge

Also, my many years of playing LoL and COD have probably made me immune to this stuff I guess.

Keep_Door · July 2015

actully i agree with OP teabagging is wrong so is killing someone thats even worse.

my suggestion we start a guild and instead of killing each other wich is savage and destorying the youth of today making them babaric killing/teabagging monsters we have tea partys where we all sit and talk nicely and drink tea and the only teabagging that will happen is the making of the tea.

lol get gud scrub and shut up meg

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Inappropriate Content and Language]

eventide03b14a_ESO · July 2015

I just imagine people sitting down with their therapists discussing the emotional trauma of someone spamming crouch near their corpses.

Rylana · July 2015

I do it so their dead ass will just up and rez already so I dont have to corpsecamp waiting for the crap nightblade off to the side to "try" to rez my fallen enemy.

Also because they otherwise talked mad trash and got their comeuppance, umad

When one does it to me, i take it as a sign of being too famous for my own good.

I_killed_Vivec · July 2015

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

I just imagine people sitting down with their therapists discussing the emotional trauma of someone spamming crouch near their corpses.

Just wait for IC...

"You say he teabagged you?"

"Yes. He killed me. Then he stole all my precious stones. And then... then he... he teabagged me!"

"He killed you?! Oh, so this was just in a game..."

Sallington · July 2015

We can all agree it's immature and bad sportsmanship.

However, if it hurts your feelings so bad that you find it necessary to make a thread about it, or consider it ACTUAL bullying.... maybe you just need some thicker skin or need to stay away from PvP all together.

jackiemanuel · July 2015

I get the OP's point. I really do. I haven't done any PvP in this game yet but have been subjected to plenty of tea bagging in BF3/4. It's childish and stupid but it doesn't bother me like it does the OP. The thing about this is that it's not going change. Childish taunting and trash talking is a part of multiplayer gaming. It's a part of just about every game or sport in which men compete. Call it the ugly side of competition or call it a relatively harmless result of competition, but it's not going away. Chess is about the only competition i've engaged in where at least some 'attitude' wasn't displayed in competition.

Fair or not, the choices are to shrug it off or not participate.

Frozstee · July 2015

What if all the Spartans in the movie 300 tea bagged all the Persians enemies they were killing?...

Yeah it's kinda dumb, but just let the kids be immature.

Robbmrp · July 2015

The process of someone crouching over and over doesn't bother me in the least. It's when these jerks message you with constant harassment messages calling all kinds of names and such is getting old though. 99% of the messages that are sent from faction to faction in PVP aren't appropriate. There's no point in allowing these messages to be sent in the first place. The majority of the people sending them are just being d*uche bags anyway. Get rid of the ability already!

eventide03b14a_ESO · July 2015

Robbmrp wrote: »

The process of someone crouching over and over doesn't bother me in the least. It's when these jerks message you with constant harassment messages calling all kinds of names and such is getting old though. 99% of the messages that are sent from faction to faction in PVP aren't appropriate. There's no point in allowing these messages to be sent in the first place. The majority of the people sending them are just being d*uche bags anyway. Get rid of the ability already!

You're right, but you can report them and also block them. Problem solved.

Gorthax · July 2015

F7sus4 wrote: »

Got tea-bagged yesterday. Asked the player how did he imagine doing it with his female character. An answer came after a long moment of awkward silence.

The female version is called clam bumping lol I love tbagging people in pvp, but only to those who do it to me. My solution to it, hunt those people down, kill em, and do it to them. Then you only focus on that person everytime you see them. Eventually you get whispers asking you to stop. You do NOT stop, and keep doing it to them to show them how annoying it is. The hate whispers fill me with joy. Made a lot of good friends that way in the game lol

It is harmless. If it offends you, then dont pvp lol Cop out answer I know, but you wont deal with it in pve.

istateres · July 2015

"nothing new in gaming deal with it or get out"
"You talk of juvenile yet your reaction to teabagging is exactly that"
"If your that unstable that a video game lets pixels move in a certain way that offends you then I would not play any online game"
"Its the internet a video game.....grow a pair"
"I honestly wonder how people who get overly upset about things like this deal with real life"
"Man up"
"you need to stop playing said game"
"Are you crying?"
"Grow some thick skin"
"My lord I hope this is all a joke"
"The sissification is complete"

Clearly, the OP should have concern about bulling in-game. That's what the forums are for. Thanks for making the OP's point for them.

strikeback1247 · July 2015

Teabagging and BM'ing/disrespecting is actually not JUST for only the fun of it. It actually gives you an advantage if you can get them angry and on tilt. People play worse if they are stressed and angry. But I have to admit that most players just do it to make people suffer for the fun of it ^^

I do have to agree that insulting messages/whispers are really annoying (I would personally never do that). But then again, we have the ignore button for that

Just report the player, ignore and keep kicking ass in PvP.

Frozstee wrote: »

What if all the Spartans in the movie 300 tea bagged all the Persians enemies they were killing?...

That would be really funny tho xD

Sallington · July 2015

istateres wrote: »

"nothing new in gaming deal with it or get out"
"You talk of juvenile yet your reaction to teabagging is exactly that"
"If your that unstable that a video game lets pixels move in a certain way that offends you then I would not play any online game"
"Its the internet a video game.....grow a pair"
"I honestly wonder how people who get overly upset about things like this deal with real life"
"Man up"
"you need to stop playing said game"
"Are you crying?"
"Grow some thick skin"
"My lord I hope this is all a joke"
"The sissification is complete"

Clearly, the OP should have concern about bulling in-game. That's what the forums are for. Thanks for making the OP's point for them.

"I honestly wonder how people who get overly upset about things like this deal with real life"

I would really like that one answered.

KerinKor · July 2015

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

It is sad that trolls are the worst enemies in the game. No, not the three-eyed hairy monsters but the 27 year olds living in their mom's basement with nothing better to do than spend 16 hours a day grinding CP and ganking VR5 players trying to PvE in Cyrodiil.

Actually, real-life trolls as seen from harassment on Facebook, Twitter, etc. are often rarely that kind of stereotype, many are 'professionals' in various areas of work.

eventide03b14a_ESO · July 2015

istateres wrote: »

"nothing new in gaming deal with it or get out"
"You talk of juvenile yet your reaction to teabagging is exactly that"
"If your that unstable that a video game lets pixels move in a certain way that offends you then I would not play any online game"
"Its the internet a video game.....grow a pair"
"I honestly wonder how people who get overly upset about things like this deal with real life"
"Man up"
"you need to stop playing said game"
"Are you crying?"
"Grow some thick skin"
"My lord I hope this is all a joke"
"The sissification is complete"

Clearly, the OP should have concern about bulling in-game. That's what the forums are for. Thanks for making the OP's point for them.

It's a game. Nobody forces you to play. Nobody forces you to PvP. If you didn't know what repeatedly crouching meant you wouldn't be offended anyway. Seriously, grow up.

Milktray · July 2015

Kurimugann wrote: »

How on earth does getting teabagged in a computer game make you feel demoralized and humiliated?

Because you know that there's a REAL PERSON on the other end who is laughing and gloating at you expense. It amazes me that this needs to be explained to anybody, but apparently it does.

Now then you juvenile people who seem not to understand the harm they do...The reason you get grounded for doing it in school or at home with your familly, that you get booed/punished/fired when you do that at work or in sport...THE reason is this..it's WRONG WRONG SO WRONG.
Just type "Words Hurts" in Youtube, there is a lot of videos and commercials on the matter and it would seem that you do not get the point. Words, action, they hurt even from a computer screen. I couldn't careless if Mannimarco kills me over and over and laugh at me and all, he is an AI programmed to be a d!**, but when it comes from another person, it's something else.
Not everyone can "ignore" or "get over it", not many can laugh it up either, heck I don't think this matter should be ignored. There are people out there, me included, who have never been able to build up that shield, that bulletproof vest that people tell us to build to take all the gun shots. People may go homicidal, maybe suicidal, yes it's extreme but it happens! when people can shout server wide that another person is a "Pathetic Looser that will never be as good as they(the speaker) are" (No really I am quoting someone, an actual player who said that) without facing repercussion, something is wrong.

Oh and don't you dare pull the "If you hate it so much, just stop" card cause NO, you are not bullying me out of a game that I like (again). I like the game, I hate the people. If people wont change then there should be a stronger punishment for them cause I swear cyberbullies are more hinderances to communities than me sucking at pvp will ever be.

I prefered making it a topic instead of going through all the Imperial city threads to make my point

mmo's BEGAN as Open World PvP, EQ Changed it and added PvE and because other companies didn't want ppl crying on their forums all day and night they mostly kept it as PvE

Funnily enough then they started going towards more Solo orientated as well, UO had a simple answer, GROUP UP, HUNT DOWN THOSE PREYING ON INNOCENT AND MUSH THEM INTO THE GROU .. umm, maybe getting a bit carried away.

But unless you intend to solo an entire game, PVP should be no problem if ppl bother to group and work together, which by the sounds of it many can't be bothered to do as it's easier to moan until ZoS cave in

eventide03b14a_ESO · July 2015

You have to be able to make a logical distinction between what is bullying and what isn't. "Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate others." "Teabagging" doesn't fit any of that criteria. Not even a little. Is it insulting? Maybe, if such things insult you. But it's not bullying. Can whispering another player be an act of bullying. Certainly. But there are already things in place to counter that. Reporting and blocking the player being primary among them.