Excuse me one moment while I face palm hard enough to give myself a black eye.

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Okay! Now that that is out of the way. You argue about bullying and childish behavior? I see these complaints are no less childish than those doing these things. The fact of the matter is, PvP stands for player vs player. We have a lot of "PvP" in real life. Such as football, boxing, tennis, hell even chess is PvP.

On a professional level, it is considered unsportsmanlike to taunt or talk smack to others in these fields. Though if you take a look around, it still happens. Now on a far more casual level of kids playing football in a park, you can bet there will be a lot of taunting, smack talk and even fights from time to time. If you come to to such a playing field and except or even feel entitled to not have to be subjected to these things, you are dead wrong.

Taunting is not "bullying" it's an action or gesture made to incite anger or aggression in the target so they they will attack or react negatively in response. Taunts are easily ignored, in fact, it is considered mature to ignore them. When it becomes "bullying" is only one Person A repeatedly taunts Person B over, and over again, when Person B has shown no reaction or interest in it. Now if Person B reacts, that's on them, as they could have chosen to ignore it. We learnt this stuff in first grade, so be the better man and walk away.

Now lets take all this and toss it into a virtual world were everyone is looking to have fun. "Teabagging" or what have you is a form of taunting, and can very easily be ignored. Just return to wayshrine and shrug it off.Now I'm going to let you in on a little secret. How to avoid being targeted and harassed in pvp. (This applies to all video games.) If you are in a place where you can be attacked by another player and are not interested in pvp, simply... don't fight back.

Turn and face them that you acknowledge them (And that you don't look like a bot.) and just stand there. Don't atatck back, don't try to resist with defensive skills. Just stand there and die. They may tauntbag or laugh at your or soemthing along those lines, but more often than not, they won't attack you again. Because they know you won't fight back and are "Boring." Now, if they attack you again, just do the same exact thing. Turn and face them and just stand there. Very rarely will people come at you a third time, becoause you are techically just a waste of time and boring knowing you aren't going to fight back. Now if a player keeps attacking you when you don't fight back, then it can start to be considered bullying or harassment. However that takes a few deaths to even get close to the "Consider" part.

Now, in a situation where player stand to gain something from you, it's on you to protect yourself. Because it doesn't matter what you do, as players more than likely kill you. Not necessarily for fun or harassment, because they stand to gain something from you. You may as well be a slightly more difficult than normal mob. In these instances, protect yourself.

Bring a friend(s) first of all. If you are a PvE player, there's a good chance you know a few people, so group up and farm/quest/grind with them. Safety in numbers. It is also wise to carry consumables like healing positions and the like. However most importantly of all.

Be aware of your surroundings.

If you find mobs dead, or mobs missing where they should be. there is a good chance another player is nearby. In which case you can either avoid the area, or investigate to see if it's a friendly or not. When fighting, pan your camera aroudn every so often for signs of another in the area. If you think you might be in danger, you probably are. Finish off the mob then sneak away. This also applies to loot and banking. If ever at any point you ask yourself, "I should probably bank." You should have banked 5 minutes ago. Go bank and keep your loots safe. Lastly, if you do encounter another player who hasn't attacked you yet or is fighting mobs, don't show fear or hesitation. Chances are they are just afraid of you as you are to them if they are just there to collect stuff, and will probably run off if you don't viably seem to see them as a threat.Now if you back-peddle, move around a bunch awkwardly, they might get the idea that you are afraid of them, and give them confidence that they can probably take you. Don't give them that confidence. Just acknowledge them and be on your way.

TL;DR: In the end, a lot of it is on the player and how they respond or react to things. Being killed or taunted in pvp is not bullying or harassment. it's "Part of the game." How you respond to it however, is up to you. Only when it happens several times (over 3) by the same person could it even begin to be considered possible bullying or harassment. Any less and it's just "Part of the game."

The answer is clear: nerf stealth animations.

I probably tea-bag 50% of my kills. Normally because it's payback for that person snipe/ambush macro'ing and they deserve it. Either way, it's an animation in a video game. I can't believe this is a real thread. Just respawn.

Kobaal wrote: »

Lynxa wrote: »

Bring your manners with you into the game (if you have some), and treat your friends and enemies (dead and alive) with respect and you will also earn some.

Some people view tea bagging as a sign of respect.

Speaking for myself, i only bother to tea-bagg someone that earned my respect and put-up a good fight, others i just walk by and continue playing.

F7sus4 wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

Nobody would tea bag or clam slam anyone in real life

When there's a strong competition, there are always strong emotions involved as well.

LOL is that real or fake?

Love it when hotdogging backfires in sports:

I find the whole thing fascinating... psychologically...

I mean... All the guys (maybe some women) of various ages... hanging out online... connected by headphones and avatars - bashing each other's sexuality - leave them alone for a few minutes, they immediately do the most vulgar and sexual things to each other that they can imagine.

I mean, there is an entire world out there to play the game in... killing bears, taking down Daedra... exploring the "unexplored"

and people naturally feel driven and compelled to use a lot of their imagination on sexualizing their characters and making them perform vulgar acts to each other....

It really fascinates me...

We need Alfred Kinsey to look into this!!!






anyway... Kuri, there is a lot of humor in this... water finds its own level...

Kurimugann wrote: »

I was not even talking about Tea Bagging only! GEEZ. Is it so chidlish of me to want to be respected and treated better than trash?

Nope, no childish, just extremely unrealistic given the nature of PvP and people in general.

The obvious solution is don't PvP, like ever, because regardless of where you go and what game you play there will always be one or two idiots out there who will do this sort of stuff. Alternatively, if you can't handle this sort of behaviour, perhaps MMOs aren't for you. Removing the human element removes any risks of 'poor sportsmanship', so there's that.

Personally I don't see what the big deal is, but that's just me.

The_Sadist wrote: »

Kurimugann wrote: »

I was not even talking about Tea Bagging only! GEEZ. Is it so chidlish of me to want to be respected and treated better than trash?

Nope, no childish, just extremely unrealistic given the nature of PvP and people in general.

The obvious solution is don't PvP, like ever, because regardless of where you go and what game you play there will always be one or two idiots out there who will do this sort of stuff. Alternatively, if you can't handle this sort of behaviour perhaps MMOs aren't for you.

the funny thing is that this is not a PvP issue. He could be trying to do a dungeon with PvE players and maybe they don't like the way he is playing and kick him out of the group and say he is not good enough.... See what I mean.

At some point people need to realize this is a fantasy world and not reality. Its an M rated game to boot. I also agree with The_Sadist that it is not realistic to have the expectation of respect in a video game.

The first time I got teabagged in this game I laughed. It amused me.

I then camped them every chance I got...

Let's get a little philosophical...

the brain really doesn't completely know the difference between what is real and what is not real...

if we were both on the... tennis team... you could go to practice... sweat, swing, and work on your game...

I could do the same thing from my couch... eyes closed... imagining it...

Much of the same areas of our brains would light up in PET scans... you doing... me imagining...

in both of our brains, neural pathways would be growing to accommodate our new skill/experience...

So, imagination becomes a kind of real thing because are fantasies are manifesting themselves as they create real neural pathways that represent real memories of the experience...

So, to what extent is this "safe," "imaginary" behavior real?

To what extent does role playing/fantasizing transform our self image and concept of others?

If a people are going around tea bagging each other, to what extent are they really tea bagging each other...


Imagine explaining this one to your friends, parents, boss, spouse...

Nah, I don't really want to perform sexual acts with corpses.. I just like pretending to online...

Nah, I wouldn't really like to tea bag one of my friends... but I like to pretend to... it's fun!

I'm not judging...

It just cracks me up...

but I'm too old to be playing video games anyway...


any IB students out there want to bring this up in Theory of Knowledge class?

Ugh I like how there are some supportive people and then there are those who make me regret ever trying anything. Sure sure go to every other thread and ask "Why in the world are these people and these people always so angry at eachother" all while forgetting that there are *** whose name would fit nicely in a Death Note. Them gone would make the game much much less frustrating and way less laggy. but then if you ask why is this generation so depressed, surely you wont think about cops killing people and getting away it it, or *** telling people to kill themselves because they are not stick thin, or people yelling that they *** you in a game and that you<re pathetic that that you'll never ever be worth a penny.

Ok I need therapy but its frustrating that people who messed me up are going on with their lives having fun at my expense and it's not about ESO only, much less about this teabagging. Heck if psychologist are going to treat it you guys are, I prefer staying crazy until it ends me

Kurimugann wrote: »

Ugh I like how there are some supportive people and then there are those who make me regret ever trying anything. Sure sure go to every other thread and ask "Why in the world are these people and these people always so angry at eachother" all while forgetting that there are *** whose name would fit nicely in a Death Note. Them gone would make the game much much less frustrating and way less laggy. but then if you ask why is this generation so depressed, surely you wont think about cops killing people and getting away it it, or *** telling people to kill themselves because they are not stick thin, or people yelling that they *** you in a game and that you<re pathetic that that you'll never ever be worth a penny.

Ok I need therapy but its frustrating that people who messed me up are going on with their lives having fun at my expense and it's not about ESO only, much less about this teabagging. Heck if psychologist are going to treat it you guys are, I prefer staying crazy until it ends me

Calm down.

Look, this is the internet. A lot of people are very different on the internet to how they are in real life. People can essentially hide behind a screen and say what they want with no consequence.

At the end of the day, this is just a video game. Anything they do is not a slight against you. In any way. They just do it because to them, it's fun. And they get some sort of weird pleasure out of acting like an ***. Welcome to the internet. That is what they do.

They don't know you personally, not are they really making fun of you or anything about you. The internet for good or bad gives everyone an opinion and to reach everyone else.

Is it right? No, likely not. Is this how the internet is? Yep.