VR16 CONFIRMED --- SAY IT AINT SO
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GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭timidobserver wrote: »Given XP potions and the reduction in the amount of XP required to level, I expect it to take approximately 2 days or less for anyone putting in an average amount of effort.
Replacing gear is the only difficult part, but honestly, the game is so content starved that I am fine with having to replace all of my gear if that is what it takes to get new content.
More like 2 hours... 1.6 million AP is super fast to get.. People complaining about the grind have no clue how to lvl their character fast it seems ^^
... or they perhaps have a life outside of ESO.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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Etaniel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭timidobserver wrote: »Given XP potions and the reduction in the amount of XP required to level, I expect it to take approximately 2 days or less for anyone putting in an average amount of effort.
Replacing gear is the only difficult part, but honestly, the game is so content starved that I am fine with having to replace all of my gear if that is what it takes to get new content.
More like 2 hours... 1.6 million AP is super fast to get.. People complaining about the grind have no clue how to lvl their character fast it seems ^^
... or they perhaps have a life outside of ESO.
You are saying 2 hours of your life is too much to spend on an mmo? wtf? Why are you even wasting your precious 5 min writing in this thread then?2 -
Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »Speaking as someone who crafts many sets. It is relatively cheap to craft your own gear. Let's also take into account that every time new gear has droppedal majority of players move to those sets cause they generally are better. Moreover, this is the first new gear since 1.6 has dropped which means they will be tailored to the new metas that ppl use. For instance he hinted at gear that helps fight ppl who are sheilds stacking. Yes it is inevitable that ppl will change their gear with this. Moreover, even crafted sets WI be added eventually. So whether now or later you will be changing your gear up. Bottom line is this is an evolving mmo which people must evolve with. This requires regearing to stay competitive.
Except they thought of that and are probably making a brand new tier of crafting materials for VR15/16.
They wont admit it even after being asked multiple times on the livestream but the purpose of the VR increase is a complete GEAR, Gold, AP, and Material grab.
They want you to have to grind all of that stuff again. So if you think crafters can just use voidsteel to make new sets think again.
Busywork FTW. They don't want us to PVP they want us to grind.1 -
bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »Speaking as someone who crafts many sets. It is relatively cheap to craft your own gear. Let's also take into account that every time new gear has droppedal majority of players move to those sets cause they generally are better. Moreover, this is the first new gear since 1.6 has dropped which means they will be tailored to the new metas that ppl use. For instance he hinted at gear that helps fight ppl who are sheilds stacking. Yes it is inevitable that ppl will change their gear with this. Moreover, even crafted sets WI be added eventually. So whether now or later you will be changing your gear up. Bottom line is this is an evolving mmo which people must evolve with. This requires regearing to stay competitive.
Except they thought of that and are probably making a brand new tier of crafting materials for VR15/16.
They wont admit it even after being asked multiple times on the livestream but the purpose of the VR increase is a complete GEAR, Gold, AP, and Material grab.
They want you to have to grind all of that stuff again. So if you think crafters can just use voidsteel to make new sets think again.
Busywork FTW. They don't want us to PVP they want us to grind.
i dont grind and never will and still get everything i need. I just play the game and have fun. they dont force people to grind. people choose to grind. i have been through every change and never thought crafting was expensive.0 -
Jules✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »Speaking as someone who crafts many sets. It is relatively cheap to craft your own gear. Let's also take into account that every time new gear has droppedal majority of players move to those sets cause they generally are better. Moreover, this is the first new gear since 1.6 has dropped which means they will be tailored to the new metas that ppl use. For instance he hinted at gear that helps fight ppl who are sheilds stacking. Yes it is inevitable that ppl will change their gear with this. Moreover, even crafted sets WI be added eventually. So whether now or later you will be changing your gear up. Bottom line is this is an evolving mmo which people must evolve with. This requires regearing to stay competitive.
Except they thought of that and are probably making a brand new tier of crafting materials for VR15/16.
They wont admit it even after being asked multiple times on the livestream but the purpose of the VR increase is a complete GEAR, Gold, AP, and Material grab.
They want you to have to grind all of that stuff again. So if you think crafters can just use voidsteel to make new sets think again.
Busywork FTW. They don't want us to PVP they want us to grind.
i dont grind and never will and still get everything i need. I just play the game and have fun. they dont force people to grind. people choose to grind. i have been through every change and never thought crafting was expensive.
Sure, they don't force you to grind, this is true. But that's if your satisfied in meh gear with meh stats.
For those of us that min max, level caps are literally nonnegotiable. You get to that next rank before logging off or you're a filthy casual.Edited by Jules on July 18, 2015 8:39AM0 -
To be fair, they are also decreasing rank requirements to 850k XP and increasing XP from Craglorn, delves and such. But yes, it's beyond stupid.
Come on. That's not even worth a footnote. They're continuing to starve us of content and forcing us into more grinding we all despise. UNBELIEVABLE.
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bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭bowmanz607 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »Speaking as someone who crafts many sets. It is relatively cheap to craft your own gear. Let's also take into account that every time new gear has droppedal majority of players move to those sets cause they generally are better. Moreover, this is the first new gear since 1.6 has dropped which means they will be tailored to the new metas that ppl use. For instance he hinted at gear that helps fight ppl who are sheilds stacking. Yes it is inevitable that ppl will change their gear with this. Moreover, even crafted sets WI be added eventually. So whether now or later you will be changing your gear up. Bottom line is this is an evolving mmo which people must evolve with. This requires regearing to stay competitive.
Except they thought of that and are probably making a brand new tier of crafting materials for VR15/16.
They wont admit it even after being asked multiple times on the livestream but the purpose of the VR increase is a complete GEAR, Gold, AP, and Material grab.
They want you to have to grind all of that stuff again. So if you think crafters can just use voidsteel to make new sets think again.
Busywork FTW. They don't want us to PVP they want us to grind.
i dont grind and never will and still get everything i need. I just play the game and have fun. they dont force people to grind. people choose to grind. i have been through every change and never thought crafting was expensive.
Sure, they don't force you to grind, this is true. But that's if your satisfied in meh gear with meh stats.
For those of us that min max, level caps are literally nonnegotiable. You get to that next rank before logging off or you're a filthy casual.
I dont have meh gear with meh stats. I have been able to min max w/o grinding. no problems here. I wanted shadow walker got it. i wanted my two pc set got it. i wanted nirn i got it. i wanted legendary gear i got it. I did this all while having fun. the most grinding i have done in this game is quest grinding some alts cause well im not going to continue listening to the same story. back in the day i grinded at the theif from v10-v12 but that was only b/c almost right when i hit v10 they went to v12 and all i wanted was my toon maxed.0 -
Jules✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »Speaking as someone who crafts many sets. It is relatively cheap to craft your own gear. Let's also take into account that every time new gear has droppedal majority of players move to those sets cause they generally are better. Moreover, this is the first new gear since 1.6 has dropped which means they will be tailored to the new metas that ppl use. For instance he hinted at gear that helps fight ppl who are sheilds stacking. Yes it is inevitable that ppl will change their gear with this. Moreover, even crafted sets WI be added eventually. So whether now or later you will be changing your gear up. Bottom line is this is an evolving mmo which people must evolve with. This requires regearing to stay competitive.
Except they thought of that and are probably making a brand new tier of crafting materials for VR15/16.
They wont admit it even after being asked multiple times on the livestream but the purpose of the VR increase is a complete GEAR, Gold, AP, and Material grab.
They want you to have to grind all of that stuff again. So if you think crafters can just use voidsteel to make new sets think again.
Busywork FTW. They don't want us to PVP they want us to grind.
i dont grind and never will and still get everything i need. I just play the game and have fun. they dont force people to grind. people choose to grind. i have been through every change and never thought crafting was expensive.
Sure, they don't force you to grind, this is true. But that's if your satisfied in meh gear with meh stats.
For those of us that min max, level caps are literally nonnegotiable. You get to that next rank before logging off or you're a filthy casual.
I dont have meh gear with meh stats. I have been able to min max w/o grinding. no problems here. I wanted shadow walker got it. i wanted my two pc set got it. i wanted nirn i got it. i wanted legendary gear i got it. I did this all while having fun. the most grinding i have done in this game is quest grinding some alts cause well im not going to continue listening to the same story. back in the day i grinded at the theif from v10-v12 but that was only b/c almost right when i hit v10 they went to v12 and all i wanted was my toon maxed.
I don't understand why anyone would put nirn legendary gear on a character that isn't max level.
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bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't understand why anyone would put nirn legendary gear on a character that isn't max level.
But to each their own.h
I dont know if this is meant for me but i am maxed. also, why not put it on toons in BWB. I get my alts to lvl 20 then bring them to BWB. your gear there. you make it once and thats it. it is slow levling in there so you def. get your moneys worth there.
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IxSTALKERxI✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have nirn lowbie gear coz yolo, but it won't work in non-vet at all after update.
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Lionxoft✭✭✭✭✭
✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »I have nirn lowbie gear coz yolo, but it won't work in non-vet at all after update.
I guess you shouldn't have invested gold into a bug
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IxSTALKERxI✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »I have nirn lowbie gear coz yolo, but it won't work in non-vet at all after update.
I guess you shouldn't have invested gold into a bug
It's ok, I got more than my moneys worth.
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Jules✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭IxSTALKERxI wrote: »I have nirn lowbie gear coz yolo, but it won't work in non-vet at all after update.
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