Heavy armor on girls
-
Ghamorra✭I would personally like more options than race styles. For instance you pick the race you want and then each race has different styles based on era, region, maybe a famous crafter, or possibly it being inspired by something.1 -
MsPtibiscuit✭✭BabeestorGor wrote: »Schnuffles wrote: »
I'm sick of people saying revealing armor doesnt belong in an elder scrolls game. These people have obviously not done ANY research on the matter. Elder scrolls has featured TOPLESS women in previous games, and even in recent games armor such as the Forsworn set (see images below) have always been available to the player should they choose to wear it. Allowing players options for such things would not take away another players option to not partake in lore appropriate revealing armor. The game was never intended for children as a few of you keep saying its for kids and adults, NO, it is rated M for MATURE (ADULT) audiences and as an adult creature sexuality is in fact a factor in everyday life. If your children are playing it, it is because you consented to allowing them to see this content when you purchased it for them. This is not the fault of the company but the fault of the parent.CapnPhoton wrote: »
The clothing is appropriate to what it actually does, protect. If there were outfits that were a little more revealing, it might be ok, but lets not forget, ES has never been about that.
Armor in a videogame also does not have to adhere to strict realism as armor and weapons somehow magically fall from mudcrabs and plants imbued with magical traits somehow already enchanted into them. How is ANY of that realistic?
On a side note this game is hardly even CANON, magical frost horses also don't exist in the game but they are there so enlighten me how adding the already pre-existing armor choices back into the game would somehow be game breaking?
Bethesda created this game and all the lore and characters within it, this includes the armor and clothing. You saying they are unwelcome additions or lore breaking is just infact you breaking the lore and rewriting it to fit your own ideals.
Forsworn armor example
Saviors hide example
Its a long time since they had topless women in TES, almost 20 years since DF, back in the days when female gamers were very rare.
Personally I wouldn't mind there being skimpy outfits if like others have said they were there for characters of both sexes. Heavy armour should be heavy and cover everything though. Saviours Hide and Forsworn armour were light so medium in TESO terms. Medium and light can be a little revealing/tight-fitting w/o straining plausibility too much. Vanity clothing can be very revealing.
The thing is if ZOS make this kind of "lighter heavy armor", a lot of peole will jump on them for giving light armor sets for women characters, even if they make this for both sexes. (Outrage culture and ***)
I wish there would be more armor style like the Warrior Elite Armor in Guild Wars 1.1 -
Schnuffles✭✭✭@BabeestorGor Regardless of how long ago it was or not does not change the fact that these things are now CANON and part of the lore. So saying "it has never been or ever will be" is just blatant ignorance to what was and still can be. They made the lore, its all right there until they come out and strictly say "this is not what we intended" but it is blaringly obvious that they have no qualms over the female form as even their most recent solo game featured exposed parts on ARMOR. Not vanity pieces but ARMOR whether light or medium or heavy at the very least it should be acknowledged that these things still exist and it is ridiculous to claim otherwise.
I am all for these options being placed back into the game at no one elses expense. Allow players the option to choose how functional or fashionable they want to be within the lore standardsThis One Desires Pretty Armor.
Female : Wood Elf Archer: Dominion : Ps41 -
BabeestorGor✭✭✭✭Schnuffles wrote: »@BabeestorGor Regardless of how long ago it was or not does not change the fact that these things are now CANON and part of the lore. So saying "it has never been or ever will be" is just blatant ignorance to what was and still can be. They made the lore, its all right there until they come out and strictly say "this is not what we intended" but it is blaringly obvious that they have no qualms over the female form as even their most recent solo game featured exposed parts on ARMOR. Not vanity pieces but ARMOR whether light or medium or heavy at the very least it should be acknowledged that these things still exist and it is ridiculous to claim otherwise.
I am all for these options being placed back into the game at no one elses expense. Allow players the option to choose how functional or fashionable they want to be within the lore standards
Cover art which did not reflect the appearance of the armour in the game can hardly be considered lore.
The only revealing armour in the games has been light or medium.
Regardless Canon in TES has always been whatever Bethesda felt like doing in a particular game. Even if skimpy heavy armour was once Canon (which it wasn't) it isn't in TESO unless Bethesda change their mind again.
Babeester Gor is the Axe Goddess, the Implacable Anger, the Avenging Daughter and the Earth Guardian.
Vriddi gra-Yildnarz, Dragonknight and Smith
Myrvanwe, Sorcerer and Enchanter
Tsajirra, Nightblade and Clothier
Vilvyni Indarys, Dragonknight and Woodworker
Arielle Alouette, Templar and Provisioner
Fishes in Troubled Waters, Nightblade and Alchemist
Shanika Some Long Title I'd Change If I Could, Templar and Aspirant Jeweller
Pippi Longhorn, Nightblade, Ne'er-do-well, and "Tribute" character
EU PC.2 -
LadyDestiny✭✭✭✭✭I am female playing several female characters. I think the armor is just fine. More realistic in my opinion.10 -
TiukuSoul ShrivenOmg, i really hope this game is not going to have any bikini armor and a step towards games like tera X__X5 -
VoidBlue✭✭✭✭Omg, i really hope this game is not going to have any bikini armor and a step towards games like tera X__X
im against tera type armor in ESO but jeesh an option to either make armor fully covered or show some belly/cleavage/shoulder/back/leg would be a good thing.
while crafting have another option to do so. [option] Full or Half or something like that to choose which kind of covered the armor shows or covers of the players skin.0 -
TiukuSoul ShrivenOmg, i really hope this game is not going to have any bikini armor and a step towards games like tera X__X
im against tera type armor in ESO but jeesh an option to either make armor fully covered or show some belly/cleavage/shoulder/back/leg would be a good thing.
while crafting have another option to do so. [option] Full or Half or something like that to choose which kind of covered the armor shows or covers of the players skin.
I agree, that forsworn armor on the previous page is still good but anything lesser than it is absolutely no no.1 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Omg, i really hope this game is not going to have any bikini armor and a step towards games like tera X__X
im against tera type armor in ESO but jeesh an option to either make armor fully covered or show some belly/cleavage/shoulder/back/leg would be a good thing.
while crafting have another option to do so. [option] Full or Half or something like that to choose which kind of covered the armor shows or covers of the players skin.
I'm pretty sure cleavage isn't even a thing in this game. Most armor (heavy included) is just a texture over the character's frame, which is why you still get those weird breast/pectoral plates, yet still nothing that looks like cleavage. So I'd just assume go with "no, not in this house."Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
Grand High Illustrious Mid-Tier PvP/PvE Bussmunster0 -
VoidBlue✭✭✭✭Omg, i really hope this game is not going to have any bikini armor and a step towards games like tera X__X
im against tera type armor in ESO but jeesh an option to either make armor fully covered or show some belly/cleavage/shoulder/back/leg would be a good thing.
while crafting have another option to do so. [option] Full or Half or something like that to choose which kind of covered the armor shows or covers of the players skin.
I'm pretty sure cleavage isn't even a thing in this game. Most armor (heavy included) is just a texture over the character's frame, which is why you still get those weird breast/pectoral plates, yet still nothing that looks like cleavage. So I'd just assume go with "no, not in this house."
cleavage is just the space between boobs so yes cleavage is in this game. it doesnt have to be squished together for all you see is blobs of boobage and a line1 -
I actually find women in heavy armor that are boneified soldiers quite sexy, that's why my main in ESO is a Templar Dark Elf female in heavy armor. And in Destiny my main is an Awoken female Titan, however would I be upset if the devs added more sexy armors, not at all. And I'm not talking about metal bikinis that is way over the top and should stay out, but more options for both genders are are always good. So if the devs want to add some that's fine if they don't that's fine too, more customization and styles for all armour classes and both genders is always a good thing however.Edited by SergeantParadox on July 19, 2015 11:03PM0 -
Psychobunni✭✭✭✭✭
✭@ZOS_GinaBruno or @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
These arguments pop up every other week or so in regards to skin/gore and have since launch...with a few stating that the original mission of ESO was to get a Teen rating.
Can one of you PLEASE tell us if that was the case, if ESO is trying for said rating or if these things such as this thread will be added in the future or are even considered.... Anything to put to bed the argument that skin/gore makes "mature" or something that we can point to every other week when yet another thread starts?
Simply anything, so we can stop going round and round?If options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!2 -
elephunky✭✭Heavy armor isnt sexy, but it probably wouldnt be believable if it was. Medium armor is pretty sexy though.1 -
Rev Rielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭
Not directly, no.Machiavelli wrote: »Rev Rielle wrote: »
Sexist much?Metal10957 wrote: »It's just not attractive. discuss
Vitamin D deficiency causes sexism?
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]
It's a result of sitting in a dark room too much, and can exacerbate a whole host of physically and mental problems.If you can be anything, be kind.1 -
elephunky✭✭Psychobunni wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBruno or @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
These arguments pop up every other week or so in regards to skin/gore and have since launch...with a few stating that the original mission of ESO was to get a Teen rating.
Can one of you PLEASE tell us if that was the case, if ESO is trying for said rating or if these things such as this thread will be added in the future or are even considered.... Anything to put to bed the argument that skin/gore makes "mature" or something that we can point to every other week when yet another thread starts?
Simply anything, so we can stop going round and round?
I thought it was certain quest storylines that gave it the mature rating.1 -
Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Rev Rielle wrote: »
Not directly, no.Machiavelli wrote: »Rev Rielle wrote: »
Sexist much?Metal10957 wrote: »It's just not attractive. discuss
Vitamin D deficiency causes sexism?
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]
It's a result of sitting in a dark room too much, and can exacerbate a whole host of physically and mental problems.
Personally take Vitamin D supplements through the winter months, since days are so short and the weather is often too cold to get out to enjoy them.
Used to suffer from Seasonal Affective Disorder each winter. Have not suffered from it again since I began taking them.Edited by Samadhi on July 20, 2015 12:21AM"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
0 -
Tolmos✭✭✭✭Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »
If someone told me that I was going to be an adventurer and had to wear heavy armor, and pick my plate... as a male, I'd select something similar to what she is wearing. Fill in the chest a bit, so it's a single plate, and remove some of the bits over the hands and arms and that would be my armor. It would maximize the balance of vital bit protection + movement + stamina conservation, without loose clothing flopping around that can be grabbed or snag on stuff. Gimme a shield and a sword and I'd be good to go.
You know what I would NEVER pick? A giant, full suit of armor that would weigh me down, wear me out faster and be a *** to climb mountains in, run across fields in, roll and jump in, etc etc.
Light and nimble is the way to go as an adventurer, IMO.Edited by Tolmos on July 20, 2015 12:22AM4 -
Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »
If someone told me that I was going to be an adventurer and had to wear heavy armor, and pick my plate... as a male, I'd select something similar to what she is wearing. Fill in the chest a bit, so it's a single plate, and remove some of the bits over the hands and arms and that would be my armor. It would maximize the balance of vital bit protection + movement + stamina conservation, without loose clothing flopping around that can be grabbed or snag on stuff. Gimme a shield and a sword and I'd be good to go.
You know what I would NEVER pick? A giant, full suit of armor that would weigh me down, wear me out faster and be a *** to climb mountains in, run across fields in, roll and jump in, etc etc.
Light and nimble is the way to go as an adventurer, IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz7naZ08Jd4 "If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
0 -
Tolmos✭✭✭✭Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »
If someone told me that I was going to be an adventurer and had to wear heavy armor, and pick my plate... as a male, I'd select something similar to what she is wearing. Fill in the chest a bit, so it's a single plate, and remove some of the bits over the hands and arms and that would be my armor. It would maximize the balance of vital bit protection + movement + stamina conservation, without loose clothing flopping around that can be grabbed or snag on stuff. Gimme a shield and a sword and I'd be good to go.
You know what I would NEVER pick? A giant, full suit of armor that would weigh me down, wear me out faster and be a *** to climb mountains in, run across fields in, roll and jump in, etc etc.
Light and nimble is the way to go as an adventurer, IMO.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz7naZ08Jd4
Awesome. So if I need to go adventuring for 46 seconds, I should be good to go! Of course, if I happen to need to adventure longer than that, it might get just a BIT tiring...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/medieval-armor-was-it-worth-the-wei-11-07-19/
http://www.livescience.com/15128-armor-drained-medieval-knight-energy.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14204717
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2011/07/just_how_heavy.html
2 -
Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »
If someone told me that I was going to be an adventurer and had to wear heavy armor, and pick my plate... as a male, I'd select something similar to what she is wearing. Fill in the chest a bit, so it's a single plate, and remove some of the bits over the hands and arms and that would be my armor. It would maximize the balance of vital bit protection + movement + stamina conservation, without loose clothing flopping around that can be grabbed or snag on stuff. Gimme a shield and a sword and I'd be good to go.
You know what I would NEVER pick? A giant, full suit of armor that would weigh me down, wear me out faster and be a *** to climb mountains in, run across fields in, roll and jump in, etc etc.
Light and nimble is the way to go as an adventurer, IMO.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz7naZ08Jd4
Awesome. So if I need to go adventuring for 46 seconds, I should be good to go! Of course, if I happen to need to adventure longer than that, it might get just a BIT tiring...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/medieval-armor-was-it-worth-the-wei-11-07-19/
http://www.livescience.com/15128-armor-drained-medieval-knight-energy.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14204717
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2011/07/just_how_heavy.html
Sure, but that is the trade-off.
Slightly more difficult to carry (less of an issue if you have spent several years training to move with the weight -- even the livescience article argued that) in exchange for better protection.
You can have your breastplate and loin cloth. The BBC link mentions a cut to the leg could be the death of you.
Since your arms are uncovered in your description as well, they make just as prime of a target.
Would rather have something that gave full coverage. The sacrifice to mobility is outweighed by the protection."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
0 -
Adam_Chattaway✭✭✭✭Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »
If someone told me that I was going to be an adventurer and had to wear heavy armor, and pick my plate... as a male, I'd select something similar to what she is wearing. Fill in the chest a bit, so it's a single plate, and remove some of the bits over the hands and arms and that would be my armor. It would maximize the balance of vital bit protection + movement + stamina conservation, without loose clothing flopping around that can be grabbed or snag on stuff. Gimme a shield and a sword and I'd be good to go.
You know what I would NEVER pick? A giant, full suit of armor that would weigh me down, wear me out faster and be a *** to climb mountains in, run across fields in, roll and jump in, etc etc.
Light and nimble is the way to go as an adventurer, IMO.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz7naZ08Jd4
Awesome. So if I need to go adventuring for 46 seconds, I should be good to go! Of course, if I happen to need to adventure longer than that, it might get just a BIT tiring...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/medieval-armor-was-it-worth-the-wei-11-07-19/
http://www.livescience.com/15128-armor-drained-medieval-knight-energy.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14204717
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2011/07/just_how_heavy.html
A British soldiers carries 160 pounds of gear, a knight in full Armour weighed 80. and don't forget adrenalin, i doubt people would feel that tired for a long time when fighting to kill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMuNXWFPewg Edited by Adam_Chattaway on July 20, 2015 1:02AM0 -
Cookiethief✭✭✭I think this game does armour really good, compare it to something like archage, it's nice to see the armour is tailored to someone's body shape....... It's why I roll with junk in my trunkMy biggest fear in life is, ending up marrying a girl who is lactose intolerant, think about it you would have to purchase double the amount of milk every week, cause you enjoy the goodness of full cream milk and she is drinking soy beans, and her milk takes up extra room in the fridge, or when you are doing a midnight run to the fridge to get a nice cup of milk and to accidentally pour some Soy milk. I couldn't imagine a worst way to do married life. - Barry Scott1 -
MasterFUNG_ESO✭✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Function > Fashion
And if they add metal bikinis and sexist armor for females they have to add it for males too to prevent some female player sueing ZoS for some sex thing. Point being .................. No want nymphos in metal under wear go mod skyrim.
Uhh no they dont. No one can sue ZoS because its not rated as a kids game and because you agree to the tos before playing. That said believe it or not some woman prefer sexy armor for their toons. IMO both options should be available then everyone gets what they want.1 -
OzJohnD✭✭✭✭
Everyone knows the phenomenon of trying to hold your breath underwater - how at first it's alright and you can handle it, and then as it gets closer and closer to the time when you must breathe, how urgent the need becomes, the lust and the hunger to breathe. And then the panic sets in when you begin to think that you won't be able to breathe - and finally, when you take in air and the anxiety subsides...that's what it's like to be a vampire and need blood.
Francis Ford Coppola - BS Dracula: The Film and the Legend0 -
Wolfshead✭✭✭✭Schnuffles wrote: »I'm sick of people saying revealing armor doesnt belong in an elder scrolls game. These people have obviously not done ANY research on the matter. Elder scrolls has featured TOPLESS women in previous games, and even in recent games armor such as the Forsworn set (see images below) have always been available to the player should they choose to wear it. Allowing players options for such things would not take away another players option to not partake in lore appropriate revealing armor. The game was never intended for children as a few of you keep saying its for kids and adults, NO, it is rated M for MATURE (ADULT) audiences and as an adult creature sexuality is in fact a factor in everyday life. If your children are playing it, it is because you consented to allowing them to see this content when you purchased it for them. This is not the fault of the company but the fault of the parent.
Armor in a videogame also does not have to adhere to strict realism as armor and weapons somehow magically fall from mudcrabs and plants imbued with magical traits somehow already enchanted into them. How is ANY of that realistic?
On a side note this game is hardly even CANON, magical frost horses also don't exist in the game but they are there so enlighten me how adding the already pre-existing armor choices back into the game would somehow be game breaking?
Bethesda created this game and all the lore and characters within it, this includes the armor and clothing. You saying they are unwelcome additions or lore breaking is just infact you breaking the lore and rewriting it to fit your own ideals.
Forsworn armor example
Saviors hide example
We are talk about heavy armor that could look better on the female model and to be honest heavy armor do not fit on the female model and you can still make full heavy armor look good or sexy on the female model which remove half of gear it is like ZoS did not have the female model in mind when did heavy armor at all.If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already deadWhat we do in life, echoes in eternity0 -
Kuroinu✭✭✭✭✭I feel that the "breast mounds" they have on the female versions of breastplate look like they'd get in the way and hinder you more than help. Also with ESO chest and leg armour, I almost feel like my character is having the armour integrated into the skin or the skin is replaced by an "armour look". I understand that's what's technically happening, but it looks kinda cheap-ish, lol.
Maybe it's easier to understand what I'm saying with an image. Even though the proportions of the created character are fine when imagined naked, I think all armour should have a default "slimness"; this character below looks like she's wearing a metal corset in which case all you could do was stand and not breathe never mind battle, lol.
2 -
Metal10957✭✭✭I am amazed this thread lasted this long. I was just being funny, or so I thought... much bigger issue than I thought. I wish you all the best. Guess someone had to say it. It humbles me that so many ppl replied, thank you all.For the Horde!1
This discussion has been closed.