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The Current State of Cyrodiil

Germtrocity
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So I decided to try out Azura's Star again today for the first time in a while, since it was relatively early in the day and I figured that the campaign would be somewhat playable.

After a few hours of constantly going back and deleting the few things I had recorded due to being ruined by lag, I decided to just record what was happening and constantly ongoing instead.

The finished project is what I like to call "The Current State of Cyrodiil".

I could have kept playing in the lag, but I realized I could go and mash my head against a brick wall and have just as much fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeHtTnFtoY0

Also I would like to tip my hat to the players in this video that I encountered, they are definitely in the minority on Azura's Star. I had thought that the zerging was bad back when Thornblade or Chillrend were populated, but it really seems as if people are hard pressed to out-do the lag that previous servers had been abandoned because of.

Please don't take your zergs to Haderus, when it has a decent population it is one of the last moderately lag free campaigns (excluding the buff servers).

EDIT : Before attempts to derail the thread, my shields are bugged in the video, keep it to yourselves and take your nerf sorc rants elsewhere.
Edited by Germtrocity on July 18, 2015 12:58AM
  • technohic
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    LOL My god, what is going on with that server?
  • slowassferrariub17_ESO
    Yes Cyrodiil is in a pathetic state, the fact that Nirn went unchecked for months and then lag ontop of it is *** sad.

    These dev's should be ashamed of themselves.
  • ThyIronFist
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    Yeah PvP is a joke... unbalanced and major performance issues. Months and months of silence because of the release for the Peasantstation 4 and Peasantbox One. No forward camps so there is only zerging between keeps and outposts, zerging reigns supreme, small scale is dead.

    Abilities such as meteor that cause lag not even being looked at, unbreakable CC because of skills like fear. Unacceptable low fps in medium and large scale battles, and of course lag. I could go on forever.

    Imperial city is like 100x smaller than Cyrodiil, it will be fun when all the zergblobs enter the Imperial city and the ping will skyrocket to a number that would even make Albert Einstein jealous.
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  • Poxheart
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    Based on the footage, clearly a L2P issue!
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  • Manoekin
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    Watch your step! That was really, really bad.
  • Lord_Hev
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    Watch your step, scrub
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  • FENGRUSH
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    Logged onto Haderus tonight and experienced the same thing for about 2 minutes and logged out for the night.

    Thanks @ZOS_BrianWheeler . Youre working on LOS checks for a fix though instead of making gameplay changes that would actually make the game playable.

    Doesnt matter how amazing your game is if you cant play it.

    PS Arcane: Sick plays. Be happy you have some instant use abilities, because anything with travel/wind up time gets lost in translation. Stam sorc limitied to blink, crit charge, wrecking blow. FENGRUSHs PVP experience in lag is just watching windup animations and nothing happens.

    At least everyone can spam heals and flip flags in lag though. @ZOS_BrianWheeler is working on it though. Might have to wait until the next major patch after IC though because working on it.
  • Gol Barr
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    watch you step :)
  • aco5712
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    Hade and Azura are constantly like this. I logged on today for some pvp. Crashed before i got to my group. Lag was 100+ above normal ping and then i crashed when i tried to engage. I logged off. You need to run a maintance or something to help these servers. A month and a week is a long time, people might not stay around long enough to see IC play out....
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  • FENGRUSH
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    aco5712 wrote: »
    Hade and Azura are constantly like this. I logged on today for some pvp. Crashed before i got to my group. Lag was 100+ above normal ping and then i crashed when i tried to engage. I logged off. You need to run a maintance or something to help these servers. A month and a week is a long time, people might not stay around long enough to see IC play out....

    Your post has been noted and archived in the @ZOS_BrianWheeler recycle bin.
  • manny254
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    Hade and Azura are constantly like this. I logged on today for some pvp. Crashed before i got to my group. Lag was 100+ above normal ping and then i crashed when i tried to engage. I logged off. You need to run a maintance or something to help these servers. A month and a week is a long time, people might not stay around long enough to see IC play out....

    Your post has been noted and archived in the @ZOS_BrianWheeler recycle bin.

    That sh*t must be at least this big.

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    Edited by manny254 on July 18, 2015 7:44AM
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  • JDar
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Logged onto Haderus tonight and experienced the same thing for about 2 minutes and logged out for the night.

    Thanks @ZOS_BrianWheeler Robert Altman . Youre working on LOS checks for a fix though instead of making gameplay changes code refactoring that would actually make the game playable.

    FTFY
    Edited by JDar on July 18, 2015 8:43AM
  • Soulac
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    That ending.. I actually laughed.

    Devs please get your *** together.. lag since over a *** year and you only made it worse.
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  • JaJaLuka
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    Who's Robert Altman?

    Cyrodiil did used to be fun, still can be when it runs well. Shame that's not as often as it should be.
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  • Fatalyis
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    jeez. I haven't logged into ESO in over a month due to sh*t like this and I don't plan to anytime soon. Been following the forums in hopes that there will be some type of miracle but it's starting to look pretty grim. That lag just made it a complete waste of time for me.
  • Bromburak
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    Just leave, the lags go away then. B)
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    Thanks @ZOS_BrianWheeler what a great game. A++++ will subscribe again.
  • Radolfus
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    When you opened your recap and it said "fall damage" I spit my water all over my desk in a hysterical lol.
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  • BOLTERITY
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    Hade and Azura are constantly like this. I logged on today for some pvp. Crashed before i got to my group. Lag was 100+ above normal ping and then i crashed when i tried to engage. I logged off. You need to run a maintance or something to help these servers. A month and a week is a long time, people might not stay around long enough to see IC play out....

    Your post has been noted and archived in the @ZOS_BrianWheeler recycle bin.

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  • BigTone
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    As the tool tip in the death recap stated, "watch your step". This is clearly a L2P issue.
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  • rendolpheb16_ESO
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    I only log to do my crafting quest these last day considering the lag make the game unplayable in Cyrodiil.

    In those situation I would just grind CP so I'll be stronger later when everything will be stabilze, but I lose faith honestly.

    A good game is a game that only wife aggro will make you log out. Now the only thing that make me log out is the lag.
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  • Ezareth
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    Currently when I experience horrible lag like that I just switch campaigns until I find one that doesn't have it.

    With the next patch and the inability to travel to player what are we going to do to find PvP that isn't lag free? IT's bad enough that 90% of PvP today is people travelling around together in groups of 10-20.

    I think the best PvP I've had in the past month is grinding freaking goblins in Cracked Water Cave. No lag, no zergs, and depending on your campaign you get a steady stream of PvP.
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  • stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO
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    Those of you who are still trying to find an enjoyable game in Cyrodiil are certainly more patient than I am, but I am beginning to question the wisdom in trying.
  • JTorus
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    JaJaLuka wrote: »
    Who's Robert Altman?

    Cyrodiil did used to be fun, still can be when it runs well. Shame that's not as often as it should be.

    Robert Altman is HMFIC CEO of Zenimax. It is doubtful that he's making the day to day calls over what should be prioritized, it is likely that his instructions are ultimately 'maximize monetization' and 'cut back on costs'. Which translates more towards Crown Store stuff and less PvP placations. At the end of the day, ZOS is a business, and business are in the business of making money, though a desirable side effect is customer satisfaction.

    (Think McDonalds. Man, that picture of that burger and fries looks so good, and it smells amazing, and it doesn't cost that much. After you eat it you feel sick and regret it, but too late, you paid for it, and you'll do it again next week.)
    Edited by ZOS_Julien on July 20, 2015 3:25PM
  • TheElementalPlatypus
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Logged onto Haderus tonight and experienced the same thing for about 2 minutes and logged out for the night.

    Thanks @ZOS_BrianWheeler . Youre working on LOS checks for a fix though instead of making gameplay changes that would actually make the game playable.

    Doesnt matter how amazing your game is if you cant play it.

    PS Arcane: Sick plays. Be happy you have some instant use abilities, because anything with travel/wind up time gets lost in translation. Stam sorc limitied to blink, crit charge, wrecking blow. FENGRUSHs PVP experience in lag is just watching windup animations and nothing happens.

    At least everyone can spam heals and flip flags in lag though. @ZOS_BrianWheeler is working on it though. Might have to wait until the next major patch after IC though because working on it.

    Idk man those LOS checks sure seem to be helping with radiant destruction. Heheh.

  • CITADALO
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    38k magika cause you are using 2 mundus stone bug, gg.
    Edited by CITADALO on July 20, 2015 3:41PM
  • frozywozy
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Currently when I experience horrible lag like that I just switch campaigns until I find one that doesn't have it.

    With the next patch and the inability to travel to player what are we going to do to find PvP that isn't lag free? IT's bad enough that 90% of PvP today is people travelling around together in groups of 10-20.

    I think the best PvP I've had in the past month is grinding freaking goblins in Cracked Water Cave. No lag, no zergs, and depending on your campaign you get a steady stream of PvP.

    This is why they should incorporate a new system to support campaigns and make sure they are fair for everyone. I proposed some ideas in the past such as having a signup procedure before any campaign start. People register for the said campaign and once it reaches the population cap for all factions, it starts. If a player hasn't been playing in a period of 48hours, he get booted from the campaign and a spot opens up. You could re-home mid campaign at a very expensive cost and see which campaign has free slots before you do so. They could also monitor dynamically the number of players for each faction to make sure that if a full guild of 24players re-home somewhere else mid campaign, the other factions won't accept anyone else until 24players leave there aswell.

    As a result, we would not have useless campaigns one sided with only one bar most of the time because campaigns would not started without the requirement met.
    Edited by frozywozy on July 20, 2015 4:06PM
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  • Cinbri
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    Current state... After last patch my current state is instant loading screen after each death. Stopped running in pve zones to prevent it and now here we go :tired_face: and speed bug welcome back
    Edited by Cinbri on July 20, 2015 4:38PM
  • Wycks
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    I came to ESo with 2 PvP guilds of about 60 people, not one of them has logged in in the last 6 months because of the lag.

    The sheer amount of people that have left the game because of lag or unfixed bugs is insane, the amount of lost potential revenue is mind boggling.


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    Edited by ZOS_Julien on July 20, 2015 5:01PM
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  • BigTone
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    I came to ESo with 2 PvP guilds of about 60 people, not one of them has logged in in the last 6 months because of the lag.

    The sheer amount of people that have left the game because of lag or unfixed bugs is insane, the amount of lost potential revenue is mind boggling.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOvkjksXuoM

    This sums up ESO PvP atm. The scary part is it is not like a 40 v 40 zerg affair. Nobody is stacking on top of each other and spamming AoE. 1:24 made me laugh so hard. The dawnbreaker white out was quite epic.

    Oh, and lol@you for actually thinking the door would work at that moment, you should know better
    Edited by ZOS_Julien on July 20, 2015 4:35PM
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