How to counter 30k+ Shieldstacking Enemies?
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Plus repentance heal for Templars from dead bots.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
So you're saying you interrupt every enemy dwemer? EU peeps so OP
I do this too.....love bots. +30% Damage bonus on my next attack? Yes please!
Plus I throw a piercing mark on it for a free heal.
Sometimes I'll skip the health beam on a sorc if it is inconvenient though as I'm usually fighting damage shields.Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
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✭Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.Edited by Soris on July 15, 2015 8:28PMWelkynd [Templar/AD/EU]0 -
qsnoopyjr✭✭✭✭Gotta go armor penetration build. Spell penetration build.
Penetrate through those shields!
Good armor penetration ignores shields and strikes directly at their hp.
Use a good ol 2 handed mace
Run up to them
Give em a Wrecking BLOW
Follow up with EXECUTIONER
FINISH HIM!Edited by qsnoopyjr on July 15, 2015 8:29PM0 -
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Blue drink or purple? Also cp into regen help.Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
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✭✭✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.
Yeah people running purple drink don't count. Why would anyone run purple drink? Health regen is absolutely terrible.
And what Cinn said. You need some points into Stamina regen bonus.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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✭Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.
Yeah people running purple drink don't count. Why would anyone run purple drink? Health regen is absolutely terrible.
And what Cinn said. You need some points into Stamina regen bonus.
I lose more respect for you on a daily basis.
Oh yeah
Edited by Lionxoft on July 16, 2015 12:44AM1 -
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As long as people keep thinking this way, I can keep making money for potions. Don't ever change.Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.
Yeah people running purple drink don't count. Why would anyone run purple drink? Health regen is absolutely terrible.
And what Cinn said. You need some points into Stamina regen bonus.
I lose more respect for you on a daily basis.
Oh yeahCinn #SorcLivesMatter
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As long as people keep thinking this way, I can keep making money for potions. Don't ever change.Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.
Yeah people running purple drink don't count. Why would anyone run purple drink? Health regen is absolutely terrible.
And what Cinn said. You need some points into Stamina regen bonus.
I lose more respect for you on a daily basis.
Oh yeah
I don't use purple drink but I couldn't resist the purple drink meme. Health recovery is useless. Maybe stop taking things so direct especially when there's a meme or funny img attached.
Edited by Lionxoft on July 16, 2015 1:43AM0 -
Cinnamon_Spider✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm well aware of purple being useless, but I've sold stacks to people that think otherwise and that is fine by me.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
As long as people keep thinking this way, I can keep making money for potions. Don't ever change.Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.
Yeah people running purple drink don't count. Why would anyone run purple drink? Health regen is absolutely terrible.
And what Cinn said. You need some points into Stamina regen bonus.
I lose more respect for you on a daily basis.
Oh yeah
I don't use purple drink but I couldn't resist the purple drink meme. Health recovery is useless. Maybe stop taking things so direct especially when there's a meme or funny img attached.Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
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Lionxoft✭✭✭✭✭
✭Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
I'm well aware of purple being useless, but I've sold stacks to people that think otherwise and that is fine by me.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
As long as people keep thinking this way, I can keep making money for potions. Don't ever change.Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.
Yeah people running purple drink don't count. Why would anyone run purple drink? Health regen is absolutely terrible.
And what Cinn said. You need some points into Stamina regen bonus.
I lose more respect for you on a daily basis.
Oh yeah
I don't use purple drink but I couldn't resist the purple drink meme. Health recovery is useless. Maybe stop taking things so direct especially when there's a meme or funny img attached.
You still missed the point.
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Cinnamon_Spider✭✭✭✭✭
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The point is that you need to just chill, dude. I ignored your "advice" for a reason.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
I'm well aware of purple being useless, but I've sold stacks to people that think otherwise and that is fine by me.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
As long as people keep thinking this way, I can keep making money for potions. Don't ever change.Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.
Yeah people running purple drink don't count. Why would anyone run purple drink? Health regen is absolutely terrible.
And what Cinn said. You need some points into Stamina regen bonus.
I lose more respect for you on a daily basis.
Oh yeah
I don't use purple drink but I couldn't resist the purple drink meme. Health recovery is useless. Maybe stop taking things so direct especially when there's a meme or funny img attached.
You still missed the point.Edited by Cinnamon_Spider on July 16, 2015 5:07AMCinn #SorcLivesMatter
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Lionxoft✭✭✭✭✭
✭Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
The point is that you need to just chill, dude. I ignored your "advice" for a reason.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
I'm well aware of purple being useless, but I've sold stacks to people that think otherwise and that is fine by me.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
As long as people keep thinking this way, I can keep making money for potions. Don't ever change.Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.
Yeah people running purple drink don't count. Why would anyone run purple drink? Health regen is absolutely terrible.
And what Cinn said. You need some points into Stamina regen bonus.
I lose more respect for you on a daily basis.
Oh yeah
I don't use purple drink but I couldn't resist the purple drink meme. Health recovery is useless. Maybe stop taking things so direct especially when there's a meme or funny img attached.
You still missed the point.
We can't joke around and post funny memes on the forums? Must have been a rough night for your blob. Yeesh. Maybe take your own advice.1 -
Cinnamon_Spider✭✭✭✭✭
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I don't understand why you're trying so hard to start a fight. What is your deal?Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
The point is that you need to just chill, dude. I ignored your "advice" for a reason.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
I'm well aware of purple being useless, but I've sold stacks to people that think otherwise and that is fine by me.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
As long as people keep thinking this way, I can keep making money for potions. Don't ever change.Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.
Yeah people running purple drink don't count. Why would anyone run purple drink? Health regen is absolutely terrible.
And what Cinn said. You need some points into Stamina regen bonus.
I lose more respect for you on a daily basis.
Oh yeah
I don't use purple drink but I couldn't resist the purple drink meme. Health recovery is useless. Maybe stop taking things so direct especially when there's a meme or funny img attached.
You still missed the point.
We can't joke around and post funny memes on the forums? Must have been a rough night for your blob. Yeesh. Maybe take your own advice.
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✭Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
I don't understand why you're trying so hard to start a fight. What is your deal?Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
The point is that you need to just chill, dude. I ignored your "advice" for a reason.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
I'm well aware of purple being useless, but I've sold stacks to people that think otherwise and that is fine by me.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
As long as people keep thinking this way, I can keep making money for potions. Don't ever change.Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.
Yeah people running purple drink don't count. Why would anyone run purple drink? Health regen is absolutely terrible.
And what Cinn said. You need some points into Stamina regen bonus.
I lose more respect for you on a daily basis.
Oh yeah
I don't use purple drink but I couldn't resist the purple drink meme. Health recovery is useless. Maybe stop taking things so direct especially when there's a meme or funny img attached.
You still missed the point.
We can't joke around and post funny memes on the forums? Must have been a rough night for your blob. Yeesh. Maybe take your own advice.
I only posted a meme of the koolaid guy. Calm yourself.0 -
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We're done. Have a great night!Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
I don't understand why you're trying so hard to start a fight. What is your deal?Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
The point is that you need to just chill, dude. I ignored your "advice" for a reason.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
I'm well aware of purple being useless, but I've sold stacks to people that think otherwise and that is fine by me.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
As long as people keep thinking this way, I can keep making money for potions. Don't ever change.Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.
Yeah people running purple drink don't count. Why would anyone run purple drink? Health regen is absolutely terrible.
And what Cinn said. You need some points into Stamina regen bonus.
I lose more respect for you on a daily basis.
Oh yeah
I don't use purple drink but I couldn't resist the purple drink meme. Health recovery is useless. Maybe stop taking things so direct especially when there's a meme or funny img attached.
You still missed the point.
We can't joke around and post funny memes on the forums? Must have been a rough night for your blob. Yeesh. Maybe take your own advice.
I only posted a meme of the koolaid guy. Calm yourself.
Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
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✭Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
We're done. Have a great night!Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
I don't understand why you're trying so hard to start a fight. What is your deal?Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
The point is that you need to just chill, dude. I ignored your "advice" for a reason.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
I'm well aware of purple being useless, but I've sold stacks to people that think otherwise and that is fine by me.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
As long as people keep thinking this way, I can keep making money for potions. Don't ever change.Joy_Division wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
Base CC Cost is 50% of the base Stamina which was around 8600 or something.
Break-Free should cost around 4.300 Stamina,maybe one hundred more, whatever.
Everyone is able to achieve like 1.3k Stamina recovery if potions are used, Bosmer got it a bit easier.
You could also use drinks for more than that but let's stick with around 1.3k.
1.300 x 3 Ticks = 3.900 Stamina
Not enough for break free every 6 seconds, but you forget the stamina you gain if you use a potion.
It's another 6k Stamina every 45 seconds.
6k / 45 x 6 = 800 Stamina
4.7k Stamina every 6 seconds if you use potions wisely.
Yap, there is your infinity Stamina and that on base break free cost and no points in Stamina Reg or some medium armor parts.
Without Bosmer and without Drinks it's surely hard to achieve 1.3k Reg without sacrificing something else.
Let's say you have some points in Stamina Reg for like 12% boost. You're also former Emperor and got one medium armor piece for the undaunted crap.
Many people are using Bloodspawn or something else with a single Stamina Reg bonus, let's calculate with that as well.
These are 1030 Stamina Reg, too lazy to write down the formula.
That around 3.800 Stamina every Minute if you use potions once a minute, but with more CP or one more medium part you would've enough Stamina.
It's possible so psssst
Hello Mr./Mrs. Bosmer-Nightblade-Werewolf-FormerEmp-Medium Armor Build,
Not everyone is able to walk around with 1.3 stam recovery with drinks.
Sincerely,
~ The non OP races, builds, and classes.
I don't know who you are talking to, but I can tell you, everyone is able to reach 1.3k stam regen with drinks.
Yes, everyone can do it, just like I can get 4k weapon damage on my magicka templar build. How many shield stacking sorcs do you think are running around with 1.3 stamina regen?
This guy is. Plus another 20% when I drink a Tripot which is....when am I not drinking a tripot?
I'm Altmer with only 1 piece of Medium and a Werewolf / former Emperor and no set bonuses with Stam recovery.
It's really easy.
Huh what?
Almer templar, 2 piece medium, WW, former emp with drink buff = barely 1k stamina regen.
Not that easy.
Yeah people running purple drink don't count. Why would anyone run purple drink? Health regen is absolutely terrible.
And what Cinn said. You need some points into Stamina regen bonus.
I lose more respect for you on a daily basis.
Oh yeah
I don't use purple drink but I couldn't resist the purple drink meme. Health recovery is useless. Maybe stop taking things so direct especially when there's a meme or funny img attached.
You still missed the point.
We can't joke around and post funny memes on the forums? Must have been a rough night for your blob. Yeesh. Maybe take your own advice.
I only posted a meme of the koolaid guy. Calm yourself.
I didn't even know "we" were doing anything to begin with. You might be confused in this conversation. I just posted this awesome picture of the Koolaid guy.
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✭Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
So you're saying you interrupt every enemy dwemer? EU peeps so OP
In a 1v1 I will interrupt every stamina and most of the magicka dwemer proccs. If you don't do it, well its your choice but then dont complain about ppl having infinite ressources because of dwemer.~retired~
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Roselle✭✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
Also you could invest a few points in tumbling to decrease dodge and break free cost.
In addition to that you barely get stunned every 6 seconds, most likely it's a bit later, after the immunity disappeared.
Or you block a stun, whatever.
Potions raise his stamina regen up to ~1300 by counting both instant stam and the regen buff (3.9k/6 seconds) if he uses them on cooldown, which is still less than what you need to break free even with 39 points (10% in thumbling). Sure you barely cc someone every 6 seonds, thats why I said its hard to manage, but it is possible if you focus only on that.
Not to mention Engine Guardian and CP passives that reduce break free cost.Master_Kas wrote: »BoL Sorc vs BoL Sorc
Most boring *** in history of eso
Have to agree with this, cat xD
To the original poster: stam nb and Kill them with your OP burst, fear and cloak
With 750-900 stam regen you can cc break always . So dont give that talk about wasting his stam. Good sorcs mostly only use stam to cc break.
900 stam regen = 2700 stam / 6 seconds. A CC break cost around 4-5k. Do the math, if the player you're facing uses 1 CC every 6 seconds (which is hard to manage), counting that you got 12k stamina and 900 stamina regen you will be out of stamina after 40-50 seconds of fight.
The thing is just that nowadays no one tries to play on stamina drain because its boring and very hard to manage.
Potions.
If you didnt learn yet to interrupt a stamina dwemer procc then you suck its not my problem.
So you're saying you interrupt every enemy dwemer? EU peeps so OP
In a 1v1 I will interrupt every stamina and most of the magicka dwemer proccs. If you don't do it, well its your choice but then dont complain about ppl having infinite ressources because of dwemer.
If course it's my own choice to not interrupt dwemers, what are you going on about?This one was rekt by Zenimax0 -
Rook_Master✭✭✭✭✭Here's a little history of class balance:
April 2014 - March 2015: Vamp Dunmer DK or GTFO
Then they removed softcaps, overlooking the effects that this would have on certain things. Namely, the fact that you can now get *** regen, and effectively Bolt Escape forever, and you can also get stupidly OP shields on a Sorc because Hardened Ward is the only class shield that scales with magicka.
Seriously the only way to kill a sorc is to be a stamina build, and get off a CC right when their shield are drained, and get a perfect rotation on them at that exact moment, and hope you kill them in one shot.
Most decent sorcs will never allow themselves to be opened up to such weakness though, and will reapply shields, save stamina for immediate CC breaks, and save enough magicka to bolt away.
It's really stupid, and the only thing that MIGHT fix this is the BE nerf coming up in 1.71 -
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✭✭✭✭Rook_Master wrote: »Here's a little history of class balance:
April 2014 - March 2015: Vamp Dunmer DK or GTFO
Then they removed softcaps, overlooking the effects that this would have on certain things. Namely, the fact that you can now get *** regen, and effectively Bolt Escape forever, and you can also get stupidly OP shields on a Sorc because Hardened Ward is the only class shield that scales with magicka.
Seriously the only way to kill a sorc is to be a stamina build, and get off a CC right when their shield are drained, and get a perfect rotation on them at that exact moment, and hope you kill them in one shot.
Most decent sorcs will never allow themselves to be opened up to such weakness though, and will reapply shields, save stamina for immediate CC breaks, and save enough magicka to bolt away.
It's really stupid, and the only thing that MIGHT fix this is the BE nerf coming up in 1.7
You have a very 1-sided view of things.
Yes killing good sorcs is extremely difficult.....and so is killing good players of any class....especially in a land of infinite resources.
Hardened ward scaling off of magicka has nothing to do with anything. It's powerful but it isn't the primary thing that makes a good sorc hard to kill. If you watch the best sorcs who are the hardest to kill you'll find a lot in common with them and it isn't standing there spamming hardened ward or bolt escape, it's using everything in their arsenal at the right moment....in other words they have skills that most people do not.
I've been killing unskilled V14 sorcs on my NB for some time now.
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Valnas✭✭✭✭i run 25 in tumbling, don't block, and generally have continuous attack. i sub in 1 pc bloodspawn solo to compensate for not having the attack buff.
720 regen + 20% + roughly 6k in stam directly every 45 secs (8k a minute)
8k + 864*30 = 33920 stam a minute w/o continuous
my cost of break free is 3900~
39k staminers ! i start with 13.5, so yes, in a little over a minute you can possibly bleed me dry if you cc on cue.Edited by Valnas on July 16, 2015 6:02PMFluph Head EP sorc dank magus
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Rook_Master✭✭✭✭✭Rook_Master wrote: »Here's a little history of class balance:
April 2014 - March 2015: Vamp Dunmer DK or GTFO
Then they removed softcaps, overlooking the effects that this would have on certain things. Namely, the fact that you can now get *** regen, and effectively Bolt Escape forever, and you can also get stupidly OP shields on a Sorc because Hardened Ward is the only class shield that scales with magicka.
Seriously the only way to kill a sorc is to be a stamina build, and get off a CC right when their shield are drained, and get a perfect rotation on them at that exact moment, and hope you kill them in one shot.
Most decent sorcs will never allow themselves to be opened up to such weakness though, and will reapply shields, save stamina for immediate CC breaks, and save enough magicka to bolt away.
It's really stupid, and the only thing that MIGHT fix this is the BE nerf coming up in 1.7
You have a very 1-sided view of things.
Yes killing good sorcs is extremely difficult.....and so is killing good players of any class....especially in a land of infinite resources.
Hardened ward scaling off of magicka has nothing to do with anything. It's powerful but it isn't the primary thing that makes a good sorc hard to kill. If you watch the best sorcs who are the hardest to kill you'll find a lot in common with them and it isn't standing there spamming hardened ward or bolt escape, it's using everything in their arsenal at the right moment....in other words they have skills that most people do not.
I've been killing unskilled V14 sorcs on my NB for some time now.
You can be the best Templar, Sorc or NB in the world and not kill certain Sorcs 1v1, just because of how skilled Sorcs are able to use Hardened Ward, and Bolt Escape to avoid and escape damage.
The problem is not that there are unskilled Sorcs rampaging because the class is OP, that's not what I'm arguing. What I'm saying is that a min/maxed Sorc in skillful hands is nigh unkillable.
Before 1.6 it was balanced because of softcaps, but then Zenimax completely dropped the ball on Sorc balance. Anyways, it's getting fixed finally because they are nerfing Bolt Escape again.1 -
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✭✭Rook_Master wrote: »Rook_Master wrote: »Here's a little history of class balance:
April 2014 - March 2015: Vamp Dunmer DK or GTFO
Then they removed softcaps, overlooking the effects that this would have on certain things. Namely, the fact that you can now get *** regen, and effectively Bolt Escape forever, and you can also get stupidly OP shields on a Sorc because Hardened Ward is the only class shield that scales with magicka.
Seriously the only way to kill a sorc is to be a stamina build, and get off a CC right when their shield are drained, and get a perfect rotation on them at that exact moment, and hope you kill them in one shot.
Most decent sorcs will never allow themselves to be opened up to such weakness though, and will reapply shields, save stamina for immediate CC breaks, and save enough magicka to bolt away.
It's really stupid, and the only thing that MIGHT fix this is the BE nerf coming up in 1.7
You have a very 1-sided view of things.
Yes killing good sorcs is extremely difficult.....and so is killing good players of any class....especially in a land of infinite resources.
Hardened ward scaling off of magicka has nothing to do with anything. It's powerful but it isn't the primary thing that makes a good sorc hard to kill. If you watch the best sorcs who are the hardest to kill you'll find a lot in common with them and it isn't standing there spamming hardened ward or bolt escape, it's using everything in their arsenal at the right moment....in other words they have skills that most people do not.
I've been killing unskilled V14 sorcs on my NB for some time now.
You can be the best Templar, Sorc or NB in the world and not kill certain Sorcs 1v1, just because of how skilled Sorcs are able to use Hardened Ward, and Bolt Escape to avoid and escape damage.
The problem is not that there are unskilled Sorcs rampaging because the class is OP, that's not what I'm arguing. What I'm saying is that a min/maxed Sorc in skillful hands is nigh unkillable.
Before 1.6 it was balanced because of softcaps, but then Zenimax completely dropped the ball on Sorc balance. Anyways, it's getting fixed finally because they are nerfing Bolt Escape again.
It is true that damage shields work well against one opponent. That same damage shield doesn't work so well against multiple opponents. What are top Sorcs shields at right now??? 13-14k? Mine is 12k with 43 points in bastion and 31k magicka. It is incredibly easy for even just two competent players to burst through 13-14k damage shield with unmitigated dmg. Other classes tend to have better defenses to tank multiple enemies if built for it and then they come whining on the forums because their non-burst build can't overcome a Sorc shields 1v1. Literally all we are talking about there is one Snipe from a proper build and you're already attacking the Sorcs health, which typically has terrible mitigations. Two people with two snipes hitting the same time and that Sorc is just about dead. Of course roll dodge, but then we start chipping away at that stamina when we start roll dodging on top of CC breaking.
All a Sorc has to combat multiple enemies is his bolt escape, and it will be infinitely harder to rely on that once the update hits.
I really feel if everyone gave Sorc a chance they would see the true downsides to relying on damage shields for mitigation. I'm not saying they are overall bad, but there are definite downsides compared to a relying on heals or passive mitigation or blocking.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Rook_Master wrote: »Rook_Master wrote: »Here's a little history of class balance:
April 2014 - March 2015: Vamp Dunmer DK or GTFO
Then they removed softcaps, overlooking the effects that this would have on certain things. Namely, the fact that you can now get *** regen, and effectively Bolt Escape forever, and you can also get stupidly OP shields on a Sorc because Hardened Ward is the only class shield that scales with magicka.
Seriously the only way to kill a sorc is to be a stamina build, and get off a CC right when their shield are drained, and get a perfect rotation on them at that exact moment, and hope you kill them in one shot.
Most decent sorcs will never allow themselves to be opened up to such weakness though, and will reapply shields, save stamina for immediate CC breaks, and save enough magicka to bolt away.
It's really stupid, and the only thing that MIGHT fix this is the BE nerf coming up in 1.7
You have a very 1-sided view of things.
Yes killing good sorcs is extremely difficult.....and so is killing good players of any class....especially in a land of infinite resources.
Hardened ward scaling off of magicka has nothing to do with anything. It's powerful but it isn't the primary thing that makes a good sorc hard to kill. If you watch the best sorcs who are the hardest to kill you'll find a lot in common with them and it isn't standing there spamming hardened ward or bolt escape, it's using everything in their arsenal at the right moment....in other words they have skills that most people do not.
I've been killing unskilled V14 sorcs on my NB for some time now.
You can be the best Templar, Sorc or NB in the world and not kill certain Sorcs 1v1, just because of how skilled Sorcs are able to use Hardened Ward, and Bolt Escape to avoid and escape damage.
The problem is not that there are unskilled Sorcs rampaging because the class is OP, that's not what I'm arguing. What I'm saying is that a min/maxed Sorc in skillful hands is nigh unkillable.
Before 1.6 it was balanced because of softcaps, but then Zenimax completely dropped the ball on Sorc balance. Anyways, it's getting fixed finally because they are nerfing Bolt Escape again.
If you fight long enough in a 1 v 1 someone will die. The game will bug or get stuck in weapon swap, they will become physically or mentally exhausted, or they will lose focus and make mistakes.
There are unkillable players and builds of *every* class, sorcs are not alone in that.
Next Patch Sorcs will become far *stronger* in 1 v 1s than they are today as the primary defense against Sorcs right now in 1 v1s are roll dodge and block and both are being significantly nerfed.
The Bolt escape nerf will only restrict the amount of mobility a Sorc has but in 90% of the cases you hate Sorc right now those cases are not going to change come 1.7 based upon current information.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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Sureshawt✭✭✭✭
Next Patch Sorcs will become far *stronger* in 1 v 1s than they are today as the primary defense against Sorcs right now in 1 v1s are roll dodge and block and both are being significantly nerfed.
The Bolt escape nerf will only restrict the amount of mobility a Sorc has but in 90% of the cases you hate Sorc right now those cases are not going to change come 1.7 based upon current information.
^This. Sorcs will remain the most flexible/mobile class with the best defense/offense in the game.
As of right now I'm done playing PvP until they get this shield stacking sorted out. I only log on to use up my enlightenment on CP and then log off and play a game more balanced.
I'm also concerned about the overall general direction of the game as it seems to get grindier all the time. First it was CP now they are increasing Vet ranks again.
I'm a casual player with a career and family so I'm minimizing any further time investment in this game until I can see where this is headed. Thankfully I have an alternate MMO that is casual friendly but I did prefer this ones overall PvP environment.
I'm hopeful they will stop with the grind but perhaps that is the player base they are targeting. It is certainly the prerogative of ZoS to go after the grinder player market. I just really thought the CP system with 3600 points would be enough but apparently not.
I know I'm not alone as a lot of casuals are calling it quits.Edited by Sureshawt on July 16, 2015 9:07PM3 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rook_Master wrote: »Rook_Master wrote: »Here's a little history of class balance:
April 2014 - March 2015: Vamp Dunmer DK or GTFO
Then they removed softcaps, overlooking the effects that this would have on certain things. Namely, the fact that you can now get *** regen, and effectively Bolt Escape forever, and you can also get stupidly OP shields on a Sorc because Hardened Ward is the only class shield that scales with magicka.
Seriously the only way to kill a sorc is to be a stamina build, and get off a CC right when their shield are drained, and get a perfect rotation on them at that exact moment, and hope you kill them in one shot.
Most decent sorcs will never allow themselves to be opened up to such weakness though, and will reapply shields, save stamina for immediate CC breaks, and save enough magicka to bolt away.
It's really stupid, and the only thing that MIGHT fix this is the BE nerf coming up in 1.7
You have a very 1-sided view of things.
Yes killing good sorcs is extremely difficult.....and so is killing good players of any class....especially in a land of infinite resources.
Hardened ward scaling off of magicka has nothing to do with anything. It's powerful but it isn't the primary thing that makes a good sorc hard to kill. If you watch the best sorcs who are the hardest to kill you'll find a lot in common with them and it isn't standing there spamming hardened ward or bolt escape, it's using everything in their arsenal at the right moment....in other words they have skills that most people do not.
I've been killing unskilled V14 sorcs on my NB for some time now.
You can be the best Templar, Sorc or NB in the world and not kill certain Sorcs 1v1, just because of how skilled Sorcs are able to use Hardened Ward, and Bolt Escape to avoid and escape damage.
The problem is not that there are unskilled Sorcs rampaging because the class is OP, that's not what I'm arguing. What I'm saying is that a min/maxed Sorc in skillful hands is nigh unkillable.
Before 1.6 it was balanced because of softcaps, but then Zenimax completely dropped the ball on Sorc balance. Anyways, it's getting fixed finally because they are nerfing Bolt Escape again.
If you fight long enough in a 1 v 1 someone will die. The game will bug or get stuck in weapon swap, they will become physically or mentally exhausted, or they will lose focus and make mistakes.
There are unkillable players and builds of *every* class, sorcs are not alone in that.
Next Patch Sorcs will become far *stronger* in 1 v 1s than they are today as the primary defense against Sorcs right now in 1 v1s are roll dodge and block and both are being significantly nerfed.
The Bolt escape nerf will only restrict the amount of mobility a Sorc has but in 90% of the cases you hate Sorc right now those cases are not going to change come 1.7 based upon current information.
Whoa...to have you so unequivocally admit a sorc strength/advantage is...unexpected.
Maybe, though not sure with the emphasis you use. While I agree the perma-block builds are going to have to go back to the drawing board, I am not sure a dodge-roller will be significantly nerfed Vs. a sorc as they can find other means to avoid sorcerer damage in-between dodge rolls (mistform, cloak, reflect, CCing the sorc, etc). I suspect a sorc will be somewhat stronger when actually fighting (also due to nirn fix) but worse at running away to avoid an unpleasant situation, which on the whole, seems like a good thingMake Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.1
