ADarklore wrote: »

If they are adding PvE content, then they should allow access to players who don't PvP.

If it's possible for you, join the PTS and make sure you're leaving your POV as /feedback. They will test different access modes there and then decide.

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ZOS_KaiSchober wrote: »

During the PTS phase we will test different Imperial City access systems, but all are independent from the current Emperor's fraction. The possible options are:

• free access for all
• access if own fraction controls 6 of its own keeps
• access if own fraction controls 6 of its own keeps and one enemy keep
• access if own fraction controls majority of all keeps

Was expecting it to be higher

Sallington wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

25 would be really fair. I was expecting 50-75.

Really? More than the cost of a normal full expansion, for a single-zone DLC?

Considering the cost of other crown store items, 25 is not that bad. Particularly for anyone that has been smart enough to save up any accrued crowns from being a former subscriber.

So if they charged $100 for a horse, and $90 for a zone of DLC, that makes it a good deal because it's priced less than a horse?

Nope, but going back to reality, I am okay with 25 for lifetime access to Imperial City

BigM wrote: »

Only reason I voted overpriced because not knowing how many bugs are fixed that have been here forever. It shouldn't just be looked at as new content but also game fixing. IMHO!

You......you expect fixed bugs...?

I would like the game I just bought (ESO) to keep the servers running for a while...so, I will support it by buying the DLC...AND by paying the subscription price every month.

I like it...I'll pay for it.


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I's pay that much for combined DLC including DarkBrotherhood and Thieves guild quest lines with new skill sets (new traps added to dungeons, etc., with trap detection/disarming, etc). Poison crafting, etc. New passives. Could be played for or against the theives or DB.

Ability to place DB "contracts" on players, and redeem contracts on players and daily randomly generated NPCs. Daily "theft" missions with high value items.

I'd pay $25 for that. Imperial City? Meh.

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Misleading, at best. You buy 5500 crowns for $40. That means 137.5 crowns cost $1. The 2500 crown cost for the Imperial City, therefore, amounts to $18.18, or eighteen dollars and eighteen cents, not $25 like the topic title claims. Given that many games charge full-price ($40-60) amounts for expansion packs in the MMO genre, $18.18 for what probably amounts to more than half of what those expansions typically provide, while not having to pay a 15-buck fee every month just to play, is a VERY good value .

Title isn't misleading nor did I intend it to be. I don't believe you can buy 137.5 crowns for just $1. Nor pay only $18.18 for the crowns necessary to purchase the DLC. At the moment if one wanted to buy the stand alone DLC you would have to pay for 3000 Crowns which costs $24.99.

In fact one could argue that using "Crowns" to purchase DLC in of itself is very misleading. And of course it is, that's why they have it in the first place. It's why game company's use their own currency, to mislead customers on the actual price of their product. It's why Microsoft no longer uses Microsoft points because people were getting tired of the misleading pricing that went along with it. And why their "pricing" never seems to fall in line with any of the actual "currency" bundles they sell

This should be free to PC players who subbed until the announcement of B2P or the release of TU. The only reason why so many of us remained subbed to a stagnant game was the carrots they waved on stick at E3 and Quakecon 2014. The fact is that this content was promised to us over a year prior to now and we did not receive it within the original timeframes should make it free for all those players, as a "thank you" for beta testing what was in my opinion a half-finished, unpolished piece of software.

Many of us feel cheated but for myself I do not think I will trust the developers of this game again. And trust is something a business can lose only so many times before they start seeing the impact on the bottom line. I had high hopes for this game, but think more money and effort has been spent on creating media hype than delivering a product that is on schedule, within its original scope, and of a quality so that the product feels polished and has no serious flaws. Perhaps in a few years time I will feel different but for now I am not going to spend any more money on this product; I feel I've spent too much money already for what I've received.

At university in one of my business subjects we learnt that in order to be successful and ensure a good business relationship, it is prudent for big enterprises to provide a certain amount of "goodwill" to their customers. Whether it be something free that they give, or double-your-money back for an defective product or perhaps a special thank-you gift for longstanding and loyal customers, most companies sometimes have to make sacrifices on the bottom line to ensure that the relationship with their customers remains strong, otherwise they might go to their competitors who do. Giving this DLC for free to those players or offering them a significant discount would go a long way into creating trust where previously it was destroyed.

As many of the founding players have moved on to other games due to feeling burnt out with what was on offer for a long time, this would be an excellent move to get them back into the game and perhaps more upbeat about what the future holds for it. As it stands now I get the feeling that many players are bitter about the way things have turned out. It is up to ZOS to turn that feeling around.

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Misleading, at best. You buy 5500 crowns for $40. That means 137.5 crowns cost $1. The 2500 crown cost for the Imperial City, therefore, amounts to $18.18, or eighteen dollars and eighteen cents, not $25 like the topic title claims. Given that many games charge full-price ($40-60) amounts for expansion packs in the MMO genre, $18.18 for what probably amounts to more than half of what those expansions typically provide, while not having to pay a 15-buck fee every month just to play, is a VERY good value .

You are going the wrong direction with your dollar to crown comparison. Its common practice in microtransaction stores that the more crowns you buy the larger amount of 'free' crowns you gain.

To get a solid idea of how much crowns actually cost. You need to pay attention to the smaller packages. The 8 dollars for 750 Crowns and the 14.99 for 1500 Crowns.

And I just noticed youre an 'ambassador'....So of course youre going to defend ZOS on this.

JD2013 wrote: »

Considering it's $30 for a re-skinned horse, I think the price is very fair.

It was a really cool skin...

Couldnt make myself spend thatuch for a skin, but was at least tempted. Hope they put it in the stable one day :-D

Sharee wrote: »

I expected it to be much more expensive TBH, in the light of how expensive some items in the crown store are.

As it is, i basically get it for free, since i did not spend any of the crowns i got when TU launched(4700 or so).

For sure, i was expecting $30-$50 for this.

$25 is great.

Fair. Couple months of subscription and you get the dlc during that time and can buy it with the crowns later. Much happier with the pricing of this than the GW2 "expansion" price considering this looks to have roughly the same amount of content.

JamilaRaj wrote: »

See? A few months of content starvation and people will happily pay any sum.

lets see 3 months with no content when subbed $45. so now you pay $25 when it comes out. hmmm seems fair

Not to bad, I thought it would be $30+ I like the fact I can get it for free with ESO plus.

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Misleading, at best. You buy 5500 crowns for $40. That means 137.5 crowns cost $1. The 2500 crown cost for the Imperial City, therefore, amounts to $18.18, or eighteen dollars and eighteen cents, not $25 like the topic title claims. Given that many games charge full-price ($40-60) amounts for expansion packs in the MMO genre, $18.18 for what probably amounts to more than half of what those expansions typically provide, while not having to pay a 15-buck fee every month just to play, is a VERY good value .

You are going the wrong direction with your dollar to crown comparison. Its common practice in microtransaction stores that the more crowns you buy the larger amount of 'free' crowns you gain.

To get a solid idea of how much crowns actually cost. You need to pay attention to the smaller packages. The 8 dollars for 750 Crowns and the 14.99 for 1500 Crowns.

And I just noticed youre an 'ambassador'....So of course youre going to defend ZOS on this.

Your argument is that, because the smaller packages are roughly $1/100 crowns, then 2500 crowns is $25. But I can spend $25 and get 3000 crowns. You're wrong, and the person you quoted is right.