Level 34 and already in Coldharbor, doing level 45+ quests

Enodoc · July 2015

Violynne wrote: »

threefarms wrote: »

I acquired the quest that has the leaders meeting and it sent me to Coldharbor.

Not at level 34, you didn't. The game won't even give you these quests until you meet the minimum level.

Screenshots are now required as proof.

@Violynne Not true, there is no minimum level requirement for the Alliance Story entry route to Messages Across Tamriel.

ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »

No player can get the "Messages Across Tamriel" quest that Vanus Galerion gives at level 34.
These are the prerequisites:

Complete To Walk on Far Shores or
Complete Council of the Five Companions and reach Level 45

Any player can however get the Hollow City/Army of Meridia quests from the Groundskeeper at any level, provided travel to a player in Coldharbour is used.

Exactly, and there is no level requirement for To Walk on Far Shores (or the EP equivalent Stomping Sinmur). If the OP finished Stomping Sinmur, regardless of level, you will get Messages Across Tamriel.

Pman85 · July 2015

at level 34 you skipped zones.

UTG_Zilla · July 2015

I just don't see why you wouldn't do quests... This is a perfect example of why. And why would you? You get gear/money/achievements. This isn't skyrim, you can't just skip a quest and come back weeks later, the quests don't scale so if you skip and come back 10 levels later, you're not gonna get the xp you could've which means that now you HAVE to grind. I'm just baffled.

Edit: well, never mind, the main story quests will scale to level, and guild ones, but those are it. Side quests don't scale so it's not even worth doing the ones below like 10-15 levels of you, you're gonna get less gold and much less xp than if you just grinded. But if you did them in the first place you'd be 10-12 levels higher than you are now and wouldn't need to grind..

Sallington · July 2015

threefarms wrote: »

I went through all of the areas of the Ebonheart Pact and did the overwhelming majority of the quests in each area. Aside from these high level quests, how else can I level up? Sooner or later I am going to run out of quests and be forced to grind for xp.

No you didn't, not even close.

Atlaz · July 2015

Quest take a long time, grinding is rather simple and to the point. Either way leveling up is going to take awhile. That aside I'm just going to guess Breton and Nord are the most popular races.

Olivierko · July 2015

- World bosses
- Public dungeons
- Group dungeons
- Dwelves
- Dark anchors
- Quests (Mages, Fighters, Main & rest)

My guess is that you haven't done more than 35-40% of these per zone.

QuebraRegra · July 2015

Tholian1 wrote: »

I hit VR1 in Coldharbor, but I got the achievements in each area before moving on to the next. You apparently ran through everything and missed a lot of stuff.

For some kidz, there is no stopping to smell the roses. Missing a lot of the game there.

Frawr · July 2015

threefarms wrote: »

I went through all of the areas of the Ebonheart Pact and did the overwhelming majority of the quests in each area. Aside from these high level quests, how else can I level up? Sooner or later I am going to run out of quests and be forced to grind for xp.

On the plus side, you can go 45-50 in about 1 hour in cold harbour, but not by questing.

Tallowby · July 2015

UTG_Zilla wrote: »

I just don't see why you wouldn't do quests... This is a perfect example of why. And why would you? You get gear/money/achievements. This isn't skyrim, you can't just skip a quest and come back weeks later, the quests don't scale so if you skip and come back 10 levels later, you're not gonna get the xp you could've which means that now you HAVE to grind. I'm just baffled.

Edit: well, never mind, the main story quests will scale to level, and guild ones, but those are it. Side quests don't scale so it's not even worth doing the ones below like 10-15 levels of you, you're gonna get less gold and much less xp than if you just grinded. But if you did them in the first place you'd be 10-12 levels higher than you are now and wouldn't need to grind..

I have already done every mission thru gold on other characters and I agree that killing mobs when Over/Under leveled yields less XP.

BUT the mission turn in XP never changes. And while over level you can knock those missions out in a fraction of the time which in the end yield more XP in less time. In the end you will have to grind (everyone will) but there are faster XP grind spots than those missions provide.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · July 2015

threefarms wrote: »

I went through all of the areas of the Ebonheart Pact and did the overwhelming majority of the quests in each area. Aside from these high level quests, how else can I level up? Sooner or later I am going to run out of quests and be forced to grind for xp.

OP - only 34? Each of my toons was well over VR1 when entering Coldharbour. You have missed/skipped much.

tisch28 · July 2015

Ran every single quest I could find going through and about 3/4 the dungeons. Hit the harbor at either 48 or 49. You may have missed a complete region by how the level difference is.

UTG_Zilla · July 2015

Tallowby wrote: »

UTG_Zilla wrote: »

I just don't see why you wouldn't do quests... This is a perfect example of why. And why would you? You get gear/money/achievements. This isn't skyrim, you can't just skip a quest and come back weeks later, the quests don't scale so if you skip and come back 10 levels later, you're not gonna get the xp you could've which means that now you HAVE to grind. I'm just baffled.

Edit: well, never mind, the main story quests will scale to level, and guild ones, but those are it. Side quests don't scale so it's not even worth doing the ones below like 10-15 levels of you, you're gonna get less gold and much less xp than if you just grinded. But if you did them in the first place you'd be 10-12 levels higher than you are now and wouldn't need to grind..

I have already done every mission thru gold on other characters and I agree that killing mobs when Over/Under leveled yields less XP.

BUT the mission turn in XP never changes. And while over level you can knock those missions out in a fraction of the time which in the end yield more XP in less time. In the end you will have to grind (everyone will) but there are faster XP grind spots than those missions provide.

Ok you still get xp on quest completion but if you're doing a level 7 quest while you yourself are level 34 won't be much different than killing a few mobs at that point. What's the xp completion for level 7 quest? Like 100 (honestly don't know as no x/y xp bar on consoles)? But still, at that point it'd just be better to grind. You missed the chance to gain good xp, as level 34 it's just wasted time traveling back and doing quest just for completion Xp when you could probably get like 5x that xp in the same amount of time as quest if you just grinded in whatever area you're at now.

My point tho was why skip them at all. They're not really going to be worth it to go back and do 30 levels later

Mettaricana · July 2015

I did all quests and ended in coldharbor 300k shy of vr 2

Enodoc · July 2015

@UTG_Zilla If you're interested in XP-per-quest, go here.

@threefarms It's likely you missed some of the more hidden quests. For a list of all quests in EP territory, see UESP: ESO Quests by Location - Ebonheart Pact.

UTG_Zilla · July 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

@UTG_Zilla If you're interested in XP-per-quest, go here.

@threefarms It's likely you missed some of the more hidden quests. For a list of all quests in EP territory, see UESP: ESO Quests by Location - Ebonheart Pact.

So from chart I understand that a level 34 doing level 7 quest will get half xp as level 7 doing level 7 quest? Don't know if I read chart right (I did very easy [white quest] xp compared to standard [green] xp, in game or on consoles anyways it goes white-yellow-orange-red, not like item rarity colors as on chart).

CidxLucy · July 2015

You will run out of quest around lvl 45 you need to beat the story all the way to get more quest in Vet places.

Enodoc · July 2015

UTG_Zilla wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

@UTG_Zilla If you're interested in XP-per-quest, go here.

@threefarms It's likely you missed some of the more hidden quests. For a list of all quests in EP territory, see UESP: ESO Quests by Location - Ebonheart Pact.

So from chart I understand that a level 34 doing level 7 quest will get half xp as level 7 doing level 7 quest? Don't know if I read chart right (I did very easy [white quest] xp compared to standard [green] xp, in game or on consoles anyways it goes white-yellow-orange-red, not like item rarity colors as on chart).

The colours on the chart aren't supposed to represent quest colours; each quest has an internally-defined difficulty that they refer to. Doing a Level 7 quest, at any level, will always reward 57 / 431 / 575 / 862 / 1293 XP depending on its internal difficulty. For example, a pointer quest that just takes you to another location is "Very Easy", a quest in the alliance storyline is usually "Hard", quests in the Main Story are always "Very Hard", while a simple collection/delivery quest is likely to be "Easy".

UTG_Zilla · July 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

For example, a pointer quest that just takes you to another location is "Very Easy", a quest in the alliance storyline is usually "Hard", quests in the Main Story are always "Very Hard", while a simple collection/delivery quest is likely to be "Easy".

Ah thanks, is there any way to tell which quest is which (By pointer-hard)? I mean, like some alliance will just be go here talk to person complete, while some be go here talk to person, do such and such and such and then complete.

I don't really use quest journal much except for 'show on map' when it's a tiny white circle on lime-green map, kinda hard to see it..and I like to collect a bunch of local quests at once because more often than not they'll have same turn in location, so I'll have a few black arrows on compass already along with the white one so can't really always rely on that (for those thinking of replying 'can't find location? Look on compass')

ADarklore · July 2015

From my understanding... you no longer gain ANY XP by killing enemies more than five levels below you. This is just another reason why I scour the map and do every quest I can find... and for those who say, "quests take too long"... WHY are you in such a hurry? To get to that elusive 'end game' so you can complain about lack of content like most players who are already there? An MMO has no 'end game', there is just the long periods of waiting for new content, which when released, most of those same players will rush through that content, and return to complaining about lack of content.

Enodoc · July 2015

UTG_Zilla wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

For example, a pointer quest that just takes you to another location is "Very Easy", a quest in the alliance storyline is usually "Hard", quests in the Main Story are always "Very Hard", while a simple collection/delivery quest is likely to be "Easy".

Ah thanks, is there any way to tell which quest is which (By pointer-hard)? I mean, like some alliance will just be go here talk to person complete, while some be go here talk to person, do such and such and such and then complete.

I don't really use quest journal much except for 'show on map' when it's a tiny white circle on lime-green map, kinda hard to see it..and I like to collect a bunch of local quests at once because more often than not they'll have same turn in location, so I'll have a few black arrows on compass already along with the white one so can't really always rely on that (for those thinking of replying 'can't find location? Look on compass')

No, you can't tell which quest is which, although on the map, the "turn-in" for a quest always has green text (rather than the standard white), so the earlier the turn-in appears, the easier the quest is likely to be. We are recording quest difficulty on UESP, but it's a slow process as we have to do each quest to find out what it is, and we really only just started with this project.