VR16 CONFIRMED --- SAY IT AINT SO

Rune_Relic · July 2015

Alomar wrote: »

ZOS appears to be clueless at this point. They literally just added an immersion breaking mount that I would expect to see in a Final Fantasy game to ESO, in a game they specifically limited the UI and other features to increase the immersion of. They just don't stand for anything anymore, it's clear they're simply untrustworthy and incapable of doing anything to retain us at this point.

GG when the next AAA mmo comes out.

We have had a fire mount...now a frost mount....and finally awaits the lightning steed for a full house

They are kinda es compatible...anything can come out of oblivion.

Sacadon · July 2015

I usually have something annoyingly positive to add for my /ignore farming... Not this time.

OrangeTheCat · July 2015

All I can say to this thread is "LOL". I beta tested this thing and played all the way to the B2P announcement whereupon I promptly left. Why? Because I could see the writing on the wall: ZOS will tell you one thing and do the other. They have no respect for their community. Nothing has changed.

Be smart, stop investing time in this game.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

SC0TY999 · July 2015

They'll probably release a new crown scroll, 1 scroll upgrades 1 piece of armor, 1 lvl, LOL

Xiphyla · July 2015

Zos is so dumb seriously. They said last time they wont add anymore VR levels and yet they going to increase it to vr16. Really waste of time lol.

Master_Kas · July 2015

Damn this thread reminded me that I just bought 5 pieces of V14 Ravager set a few days ago, for my new DK that I'm leveling...

That was almost 500k gold.

BS!

timidobserver · July 2015

Given XP potions and the reduction in the amount of XP required to level, I expect it to take approximately 2 days or less for anyone putting in an average amount of effort.

Replacing gear is the only difficult part, but honestly, the game is so content starved that I am fine with having to replace all of my gear if that is what it takes to get new content.

Cathexis · July 2015

This is terrible news

Lisbette · July 2015

"We will be removing VR Ranks in the near future."

"Everything is working as intended."

"It's possible to 1vX?"

-Zenimax

AbraXuSeXile · July 2015

I have friends who was waiting to play this game but couldnt deal with the awful VR grind and it was said they would remove it so they waited. They laughed when i told them and now play other games.

Yuke · July 2015

can i have a mats refund for all my vr14 items i finally made to gold because i thought (silly me!) that you gonna get rid of the vr crap?

Makkir · July 2015

Teargrants wrote: »

bowmanz607 wrote: »

Skiserony wrote: »

What really? I don't really care about more vet ranks, what I'm worried about is my gear, it has cost a lot of money and the are all legendary. Now I gotta do it all over again? Seriously?

we already knew that we were going to get new armor with the new content. so you were going to change your armor regardless of the level.

Please, as a human being, try and think for two seconds before spouting some nonsense about us regearing anyways. You speak as if no one uses crafted sets. You speak as if whatever handful of new dropped sets come out will entirely outmode anything people wear currently. I would hope you would admit how blatantly wrong both of those suppositions are.

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

V16 is probably going to be only for the new sets and crafted sets. If they leave max level at V14 and release new sets everyone will continue using the sets they already have, V16 will force them to get new sets to not only stack one stat.

Which is really good IMO

Coherence. Your post lacks it. You appear to be trying to say that it's good for ZOS to force us to grind more and get new gear, and that we wouldn't be doing that if the new gear was v14. In what world does that make sense? V16 or not, the only thing that will incentivise us to get it is if the set bonuses are worth it - ie. better than what we have now.

@bowmanz607

I knew we were getting new armor sets, I didn't know we were getting two new VR levels. Getting new armor sets doesn't mean I would have to change my current armor sets (it depends on the new set bonuses of course). Getting new VR levels, however, does. Do you see the point we're making?

Makkir · July 2015

bowmanz607 wrote: »

Speaking as someone who crafts many sets. It is relatively cheap to craft your own gear. Let's also take into account that every time new gear has droppedal majority of players move to those sets cause they generally are better. Moreover, this is the first new gear since 1.6 has dropped which means they will be tailored to the new metas that ppl use. For instance he hinted at gear that helps fight ppl who are sheilds stacking. Yes it is inevitable that ppl will change their gear with this. Moreover, even crafted sets WI be added eventually. So whether now or later you will be changing your gear up. Bottom line is this is an evolving mmo which people must evolve with. This requires regearing to stay competitive.

I have/had 5 pieces of Gold Seducer (crafted) with Nirnhoned trait...about 100k right there in Nirn mats. Another 40k per 8 Waxes to upgrade to gold which is 200k for 5 pieces. We're up to 300k gold now without adding in the purple and blue tannins...the price of 5 gold enchants another 25k. So maybe you consider 325k gold cheap but someone like me who plays maybe 10 hours a week doesn't exactly grind out the gold per hour when I spend all my time in Cyrodiil doing what I enjoy.

I don't know if Cheap is the term I would use to describe it.

Lets also consider the inevitable price gouge of Nirn traits when the new VR levels are introduced and everyone who still thinks Nirn is the meta starts buying it to re-craft their pieces.

bowmanz607 · July 2015

And here we go again with people wanting money back and yelling about how much money they spent. Heard it when we went from v10-v12. Heard when we went from v12-v14. Heard it again when it changed from mount skill to rider skill and mounts were account bound. Also, making nirn into gold w/O having a tong of gold in the first place was not a smart idea. We have known for some time now that nirn is broken. So unless your a full heavy armor build not that much of a return. I also do not grind anything let alone gold in this game and spend almost every min. In pvp. I still find ways to get money. I am def. Bottom tier of players when it comes to gold but still manage to get everything I need.

Ghostbane · July 2015

bowmanz607 wrote: »

And here we go again with people wanting money back and yelling about how much money they spent. Heard it when we went from v10-v12. Heard when we went from v12-v14. Heard it again when it changed from mount skill to rider skill and mounts were account bound. Also, making nirn into gold w/O having a tong of gold in the first place was not a smart idea. We have known for some time now that nirn is broken. So unless your a full heavy armor build not that much of a return. I also do not grind anything let alone gold in this game and spend almost every min. In pvp. I still find ways to get money. I am def. Bottom tier of players when it comes to gold but still manage to get everything I need.

Amen.

Lisbette · July 2015

Knootewoot · July 2015

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Skiserony wrote: »

What really? I don't really care about more vet ranks, what I'm worried about is my gear, it has cost a lot of money and the are all legendary. Now I gotta do it all over again? Seriously?

This.

This this. Did it on V12, a few sets on V14 and now again for V16? BOORING

EgoRush · July 2015

Jules wrote: »

I heard hodor got a new world 1st recently? These rumors true?

For arena yeah. We have world #1 for now. It won't last though :P

Cathexis · July 2015

WTB VR16 armor can anyone craft?

Oh wait no because the economy is *** and non-existant

bowmanz607 · July 2015

Cathexis wrote: »

WTB VR16 armor can anyone craft?

Oh wait no because the economy is *** and non-existant

the economy in this game is great. It is far from non-existent.

Ezareth · July 2015

I'm more concerned that they'll release Tri-stat pots higher than Vet 5. Do you have any idea how many hours it would take of chain-chugging tri-stats to burn through 12,000 of the suckers? 150.

Jules · July 2015

Knootewoot wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Skiserony wrote: »

What really? I don't really care about more vet ranks, what I'm worried about is my gear, it has cost a lot of money and the are all legendary. Now I gotta do it all over again? Seriously?

This.

This this. Did it on V12, a few sets on V14 and now again for V16? BOORING

This, this, this.

The main issue I have is that ZOS equates content with increasing level cap when they are not the same thing.

I don't even so much care about the 2 extra ranks, it's like, okay, an annoying day of grinding. Whatever.
I don't even so much care about gearing all out again. I like to min max and them releasing new sets offers up a new chance to remake and rework our builds. Which is cool.

What I DON'T LIKE is that we just releveled in August and regeared w release of champ system for 1.6 a few months ago. However, we have had ZERO - count em - ZERO content updates since this time. We've gotten 27 different tiger mounts, xp pots, more and more new stuff to BUY but absolutely nothing new to DO.

So basically, all this gear, time and energy has just been squandered. Remaking an entire build so you can run AA for the 1000th time is not enjoyable. Sure, the release of imperial city and hopefully a new zone with 1.7 will be great. But where was imperial city a year ago? Where was the new trial a year ago? Why are we not on to bigger and better things by now?

People don't care about the level cap raising so much as they care about the fact that they grind it out and it has next to no value. It's like getting all dressed up and having no where to go.

To raise the level cap 3 TIMES IN A YEAR is just excessive. Especially when you consider the kind of year your players have had. People have been waiting for fixes to nirn, crippling lag, exploits, imbalances, and ANY KIND OF ANY CONTENT. In some cases, for an entire year these things have gone unfixed. I guess the question is mostly, if you aren't releasing content, and you aren't fixing game breaking issues, what exactly ARE you doing?

It feels like the player base is holding up our end of the bargain. We gripe about it and are tough critics but we all love this game. We all can't stand certain things, but still play. We all grind out the extra levels and keep pushing the same trials, the same keeps. We all just hold our breaths while you guys take on console and tell us for months that that is your focus. I for one just want to see some level of dedication and understanding from ZOS. And something that says, "yes we handled this poorly, going forward we're going to do xyz to make sure that doesn't happen again." A little humility can go a long way.

Cry_Wolfe · July 2015

the problem is that ZoS have no idea what , when or how when it comes to Horizontal Progression.

For a game that tries so hard to not be a WoW clone, they are fast becoming a Wow clone (where it counts :P)

Tarnumx · July 2015

stupid idea of v16 cos nothing changed but u need to make new gear

Raizin · July 2015

Cry_Wolfe wrote: »

the problem is that ZoS have no idea what , when or how when it comes to Horizontal Progression.

For a game that tries so hard to not be a WoW clone, they are fast becoming a Wow clone (where it counts :P)

uhm... everythin is a "wow" clone yo

Jules · July 2015

Tarnumx wrote: »

stupid idea of v16 cos nothing changed but u need to make new gear

At the very least we have 20 new sets to decipher and Theorycraft with?

ToRelax · July 2015

Jules wrote: »

Tarnumx wrote: »

stupid idea of v16 cos nothing changed but u need to make new gear

At the very least we have 20 new sets to decipher and Theorycraft with?

And we couldn't have used them if we were still V14 or what's the argument?
Adding new sets doesn't mean they need to increase the level cap and most likely, if history teaches us anything, not upgrade the old sets, thus not even giving us anymore choice with the sets.

Jules · July 2015

ToRelax wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Tarnumx wrote: »

stupid idea of v16 cos nothing changed but u need to make new gear

At the very least we have 20 new sets to decipher and Theorycraft with?

And we couldn't have used them if we were still V14 or what's the argument?
Adding new sets doesn't mean they need to increase the level cap and most likely, if history teaches us anything, not upgrade the old sets, thus not even giving us anymore choice with the sets.

Oh no no no. I'm 100% with you. I agree that those sets and all content should have been released as V14.

GreySix · July 2015

Two steps forward, and three steps back.

Etaniel · July 2015

timidobserver wrote: »

Given XP potions and the reduction in the amount of XP required to level, I expect it to take approximately 2 days or less for anyone putting in an average amount of effort.

Replacing gear is the only difficult part, but honestly, the game is so content starved that I am fine with having to replace all of my gear if that is what it takes to get new content.

More like 2 hours... 1.6 million AP is super fast to get.. People complaining about the grind have no clue how to lvl their character fast it seems ^^