Wish they'd change armor

Captainfez3 · July 2015

To me armor selection is way too one sided. I strongly dislike that the role you want to play determines the armor you select. I'd much rather see ONLY defensive bonuses on armor, such as increased spell resist on light and increased armor on heavy. It would also be fine by me if light and medium retained their respective resource regen bonuses, because I don't want to see everyone just choose to roll in heavy armor. I would then restrict the armor skills to each armor type and get rid of all the offensive bonuses and pretty much everything else I mentioned.

Armor choice should be influenced by role slightly, but you should be able to choose a different armor type to acquire access to its passives and active skill while not feeling like you are committing suicide with your chosen role.

Aett_Thorn · July 2015

I don't mind each armor line having some offensive abilities. What I do wish they had done, however, is had each armor line have two different paths you could take: a defensive one and an offensive one. You would have to choose one per line that you leveled up.

I think that this would have opened up a few more options for character building. Why shouldn't I be able to tank in medium or light armor? I would just be more nimble and try to avoid attacks instead of absorbing the impacts. Meanwhile, why can't I be an offensive heavy armor wearer? At one point, you gained weapon power per piece of heavy armor equipped, which at least helped a bit, but that is gone.

I think that at this point it's probably too late for something like this, but I think it would've been great.

Cathexis · July 2015

Personally I dislike the way armor is right now. Why can't I be a magicka heavy armor user or a stamina light armor user?

The benefits shouldn't reflect a particular build type focus.

Egg_Death · July 2015

Cathexis wrote: »

Personally I dislike the way armor is right now. Why can't I be a magicka heavy armor user or a stamina light armor user?

The benefits shouldn't reflect a particular build type focus.

Nothing is stopping you from doing this. You are trading magic-oriented buffs and resists for 4-5 times the amount of armor. Heck, my current heavy chest-piece has almost as much armor as the rest of my light gear combined. It fits perfectly with the lore of powerful mages not running around in full heavy armor.

That being said, I wouldn't complain if there were both magicka and stamina oriented skills associated with each armor type, especially since most classes have at least a few magical abilities. The general benefits should still lead to certain roles, though. Quick and nimble fighters and magical sorcerers should always favor light; tanks and heavy hitters should favor heavy.

Lynx7386 · July 2015

The spellslingers spend too much time reading books. It causes muscle atrophe. Put them in heavy armor and they wouldnt be able to move.

Captainfez3 · July 2015

Egg_Death wrote: »

Cathexis wrote: »

Personally I dislike the way armor is right now. Why can't I be a magicka heavy armor user or a stamina light armor user?

The benefits shouldn't reflect a particular build type focus.

Nothing is stopping you from doing this. You are trading magic-oriented buffs and resists for 4-5 times the amount of armor. Heck, my current heavy chest-piece has almost as much armor as the rest of my light gear combined. It fits perfectly with the lore of powerful mages not running around in full heavy armor.

That being said, I wouldn't complain if there were both magicka and stamina oriented skills associated with each armor type, especially since most classes have at least a few magical abilities. The general benefits should still lead to certain roles, though. Quick and nimble fighters and magical sorcerers should always favor light; tanks and heavy hitters should favor heavy.

I think that is what bothers me most. There is no real reason to wear heavy armor if you aren't a tank, everyone either gets light or medium, but a lot of games have allowed for their warrior-esque fighters to wear heavy armor. I know ESO is not ES, but I always favored heavy armor in my play throughs, but I really have no desire to tank in this game so I'm not really going to need to wear heavy.

I also lament that you can't wear glass armor and other variants. I like the motif system, it works great for crafting, but it feels somewhat cheap that armors are just iterative changes as you level. I don't know what the veteran sets look like, so it probably gets better, but I wish I could use light armor that looks more like armors (mithril, elven, or glass) instead of always having to rock a robe.

Celestrael · July 2015

What bugs me about armor is being forced to 5-1-1. I'm a tank, I don't want to wear cloth or medium armor. But it's too costly in endgame to give up the bonuses you get from mixing armors. I'd rather roll 7/7 and be a juggernaut like the good Talos intended. Everyone says you have freedom of choice in this game to play, specialize and customize how you want but everyone knows that if you don't tow the line you don't get good groups for endgame content. Doesn't matter if you want to be a unique snowflake. lol

Captainfez3 · July 2015

Celestrael wrote: »

What bugs me about armor is being forced to 5-1-1. I'm a tank, I don't want to wear cloth or medium armor. But it's too costly in endgame to give up the bonuses you get from mixing armors. I'd rather roll 7/7 and be a juggernaut like the good Talos intended. Everyone says you have freedom of choice in this game to play, specialize and customize how you want but everyone knows that if you don't tow the line you don't get good groups for endgame content. Doesn't matter if you want to be a unique snowflake. lol

I didn't realize you had to do this for endgame either. Well this just gets better and better lol.

Celestrael · July 2015

^ It's all about the passives. And you gotta do it to take advantage of the the Undaunted Mettle passive that gives you +6% to all your attributes for having 3 types of armor on. I don't see the purpose of making you wear different armor types, but it is what it is.

newtinmpls · July 2015

Lynx7386 wrote: »

The spellslingers spend too much time reading books. It causes muscle atrophe. Put them in heavy armor and they wouldnt be able to move.

My orsimer battlemages would disagree with you.

Strongly.