Earendal wrote: »

...Because targeted spells require LoS, heals do not as they aren't targeted. Bazinga? Pro-tip: heals also go through floors, before you accuse us of that "exploit."

Quit focusing on NPK and acknowledge the other, more fruitful posts tough guy

sorc and nightblade heals require targets and suffer 'heal mitigation'

Thread Summary:

"Havoc haxes emails, but they donts"

Mako1132 wrote: »

Valnas wrote: »

sorc and nightblade heals require targets and suffer 'heal mitigation'

Those aren't heals in the general sense, they are damage abilities with a heal attached to it as a condition of the damage.

they are most definetly heals in the general sense, as said classes don't have heals that aren't on the condition of damage (dark deal is trash, hard ward is leaned on so hard because of this)

i think we're agreeing that smart heals have no skill cap comparatively when nb's and sorcs need to use burst mechanics and targetting to land big heals ...

Observant wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Why is this even an argument? Been this way forever, any raid lead worth anything knows to not put his healers through the door, or that caltrops through the door for numbers is a good idea. It's good tactics, that's all.

It's a great debate if NPK would stop saying silly comments, and others would hop off his back.

We're now so accustom to the heals and caltrops going through doors that no one even stops to think if it's WAI or not. And I can say without a reasonable doubt that caltrops shouldn't be going through doors.

It's not something that anyone is intentionally exploiting, it's just a part of the game at this point.
That doesn't mean that it's working as intended though.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Caltrops+Heals going through walls was intended? can you get an answer for us?

I know Solar Barrage used to do damage through walls and doors, but that got fixed. So one can only assume that Caltrops at least, that's not working as intended.

Earendal wrote: »

aco5712 wrote: »

Earendal wrote: »

We're still waiting for someone to deal us our first 10v10 loss,

lol

Does that imply that you're going to find 10 people and show us something we haven't seen? I'm sure you know who to get a hold of to organize it. We'll continue to wait.

NPK Daniel wrote: »

We've been studying y'all and picking up some awesome exploits on the way :-)

I love the "everyone rush the tower but healers touch the outside walls and heal through the walls tactic"; we've been using it since i caught you guys doing it.

Your team has an amazing understanding of the game's mechanics and take advantage of anything possible. Which is fair in war.

I don't think anyone who's played this game for any decent amount of time would consider that an exploit. Well, excluding you. You claim to have "respect" for us, yet you're constantly suggesting or subtly accusing us of "exploiting" or "something fishy." Honestly, sounds like an L2P issue to me.

aco5712 wrote: »

Earendal wrote: »

Does that imply that you're going to find 10 people and show us something we haven't seen? I'm sure you know who to get a hold of to organize it. We'll continue to wait.

@Earendal
are you saying that 100% that havoc has never lost a 10v10 in their entire existence.....?

They just challenged Nemesis to a 10v10. Leo should go ask braidas to organise it :P xD. By the way , subtomik told me to post since he cant post on forum. He said you guys aka havoc know what happened in the 8v8 last time .

Yeah I'll admit that Havoc is composed of good players...but really toxic people.

After they win a fight, you can expect to be t-bagged endlessly and get a slew of hate tells from their members. After they lose a fight, message any one of them and say GGWP or good fight and they'll start making up a ton of excuses as to why they lost and call you trash.

*Que 'Why can't we be friends?' in the background*

GRxKnight wrote: »

Yeah I'll admit that Havoc is composed of good players...but really toxic people.

After they win a fight, you can expect to be t-bagged endlessly and get a slew of hate tells from their members. After they lose a fight, message any one of them and say GGWP or good fight and they'll start making up a ton of excuses as to why they lost and call you trash.

*Que 'Why can't we be friends?' in the background*

idk, many of their better players are pretty chill, it's their bad ones who talk trash. Hektic t-bags but he's a fairly jovial fellow.

Mrs_Wrinkles wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Yeah I'll admit that Havoc is composed of good players...but really toxic people.

After they win a fight, you can expect to be t-bagged endlessly and get a slew of hate tells from their members. After they lose a fight, message any one of them and say GGWP or good fight and they'll start making up a ton of excuses as to why they lost and call you trash.

*Que 'Why can't we be friends?' in the background*

I don't know dude but as far as myself I don't talk crap to anyone in this game. I do get the occasional hate tell from people, but even then I don't respond. I know a lot of my mates in Havoc especially the leaders are very nice people as well. A few of us tbag for fun or to simply troll. It's a game after all...

Cheers

Heh, they actually have you believing that? You're so precious.

Mrs_Wrinkles wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Yeah I'll admit that Havoc is composed of good players...but really toxic people.

After they win a fight, you can expect to be t-bagged endlessly and get a slew of hate tells from their members. After they lose a fight, message any one of them and say GGWP or good fight and they'll start making up a ton of excuses as to why they lost and call you trash.

*Que 'Why can't we be friends?' in the background*

I don't know dude but as far as myself I don't talk crap to anyone in this game. I do get the occasional hate tell from people, but even then I don't respond. I know a lot of my mates in Havoc especially the leaders are very nice people as well. A few of us tbag for fun or to simply troll. It's a game after all...

Cheers

I can only speak from my personal experience. But Wrinkles is cool af, as are the rest of havoc members I've interacted with.

I see people call each other all kinds of demeaning and presumptive labels all the time, and it's always very curious to me. Just because you've had a negative interaction with someone doesn't mean that they're an awful person. And it certainly doesn't mean an entire guilds is awful. Some people have bad days, bad tempers, bad social skills. But give each other some slack. We're all just people trying to have some fun and escape the responsibilities and mundanity of real life. Shake it off.

Ps, Tbags are just for funnies.

x2012ajipreub18_ESO wrote: »

I mean in the end the only people who win are the people who are successful in real life (Aka outside ESO). I would bet my life savings that every member of Havoc is 1) a virgin 2) minimum wage slave/in middle school and 3) Severe severe severe inferiority complexes that cause them to act out.

Your post seems to highlight your on inferiority complex, just saying

x2012ajipreub18_ESO wrote: »

I mean in the end the only people who win are the people who are successful in real life (Aka outside ESO). I would bet my life savings that every member of Havoc is 1) a virgin 2) minimum wage slave/in middle school and 3) Severe severe severe inferiority complexes that cause them to act out.

Someone is salty