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Refund of AP for Veteran Gear? ...or scaling?

cjthibs
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So...for those of us who spent ungodly amounts of AP on VR14 Elite gear from the vendors in Cyrodiil, will there be anything to bring either bring these up to VR16 or refund the AP we spent on those items?

For those of us who can't PvP every night, 250k AP per piece is an extremely painful process. It might take a month or so to gather enough AP to buy 1 piece.
(Sometimes far less.)
  • Valnas
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    As a favor, they will leave the bag vendors v14 for 2-3 months and not update pvp gear with the major update.
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  • Fruitdog
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    Valnas wrote: »
    As a favor, they will leave the bag vendors v14 for 2-3 months and not update pvp gear with the major update.

    the devs are just so damn thoughtful
  • mcurley
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    If the scaling remains similar to how it is for veteran rank gear now then the difference between v14 and v16 gear will be quite minimal. Some will argue that they absolutely need that extra 6 magicka regen or 8 spell damage but that's a bit dramatic.

    This will be great for up and coming pvpers though because v14 gear will be much cheaper to find.

    Some people just like to be perfect for the sake of being perfect though and they will work incredibly hard (or at least long) to get those fractions of percents but that too will drive down the cost of the perfectly fine v14 gear.

    I'm no developer or anything but there is pretty much no chance that they will refund your AP after increasing the level cap.
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  • xaraan
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    No.

    Everyone asks for refunds on everything everytime vet levels moved from v10-12 and from v12-14. It doesn't happen. In fact, one of the reasons they do it is as a money(ap) sink.

    I'd also bet that Imperial City will be v15 and drops from there that level and v16 won't come until Wrothgar. Maybe I'm way off, but I'm betting only crafted gear will get to v16 right away (maybe arena/trials if they scale that up) and we might not even see v16 gear for sale right away in cyrodiil. (Which is probably why the leaked ring someone saw was a v15 ring of cyro light and not v16).
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  • Minno
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    mcurley wrote: »
    If the scaling remains similar to how it is for veteran rank gear now then the difference between v14 and v16 gear will be quite minimal. Some will argue that they absolutely need that extra 6 magicka regen or 8 spell damage but that's a bit dramatic.

    This will be great for up and coming pvpers though because v14 gear will be much cheaper to find.

    Some people just like to be perfect for the sake of being perfect though and they will work incredibly hard (or at least long) to get those fractions of percents but that too will drive down the cost of the perfectly fine v14 gear.

    I'm no developer or anything but there is pretty much no chance that they will refund your AP after increasing the level cap.

    Depends on the gear. Certain sets at yellow vr12 perform better than sets at yellow vr14 and vice versa. Comes down to how they will work the sets into the new lvl caps, etc.
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  • Alcast
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    cjthibs wrote: »
    So...for those of us who spent ungodly amounts of AP on VR14 Elite gear from the vendors in Cyrodiil, will there be anything to bring either bring these up to VR16 or refund the AP we spent on those items?

    For those of us who can't PvP every night, 250k AP per piece is an extremely painful process. It might take a month or so to gather enough AP to buy 1 piece.
    (Sometimes far less.)

    Refund? Good joke man, they never will and never did that
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  • Ghostbane
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    Still waiting on my VR10 refund...
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    Just save up money and AP now and when the new stuff comes you will be readyyyy
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  • Beesting
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    100k ap a night is easy, i have 7 million ap saved up just in case, so i dont have to beg my friends like when 1.6 came out xD
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  •  Jules
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    Unfortunately, gotta admit.... the likelihood of this happening is slim to none.
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  • Lionxoft
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    xaraan wrote: »
    No.

    Everyone asks for refunds on everything everytime vet levels moved from v10-12 and from v12-14. It doesn't happen. In fact, one of the reasons they do it is as a money(ap) sink.

    I'd also bet that Imperial City will be v15 and drops from there that level and v16 won't come until Wrothgar. Maybe I'm way off, but I'm betting only crafted gear will get to v16 right away (maybe arena/trials if they scale that up) and we might not even see v16 gear for sale right away in cyrodiil. (Which is probably why the leaked ring someone saw was a v15 ring of cyro light and not v16).

    Does the game really need an AP sink though?
  • Vis
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    Beesting wrote: »
    100k ap a night is easy, i have 7 million ap saved up just in case, so i dont have to beg my friends like when 1.6 came out xD

    I see. You're one of the reasons 24 of us show up to a keep and I am the only one with siege. Lol

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  • lostavalon
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    only thing that i would like is fora chance to get my kutas back from the enchants i put on items, and fora chance to get more than 1 gold upgrade mat back...
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  • bertenburnyb16_ESO
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    prob not because

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  • AhPook_Is_Here
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  • Nermy
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    prob not because

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    That's one way of putting it Haze. :D

    I've never known any MMO give a refund for gear when there's a level cap increase and why should they?

    I often wonder how many people on these boards have played an MMO before. Or what age they are because some of the questions do really border on the moronic. Sorry if I seem a little harsh, having a long day... :)
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  • smtdbplus
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    Tonight, I am going to refund my notebook I bought last year. Coz there is a new model coming out.
  • cjthibs
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    Ha. I'm not expecting either of these to happen either.

    Honestly, I'd rather see the existing VR14 stuff scale to VR16. Only because this was supposed to be it, no more levels.

    If it was an expansion adding 20 levels or something...meh...no big deal.
    A small incremental change like this is more frustrating.
  • Beesting
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    Vis wrote: »
    Beesting wrote: »
    100k ap a night is easy, i have 7 million ap saved up just in case, so i dont have to beg my friends like when 1.6 came out xD

    I see. You're one of the reasons 24 of us show up to a keep and I am the only one with siege. Lol

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    I gave you an Awesome for this haha

    But no, seriously, last sunday i was at roebeck at 11 in the morning and lost 8 sieges to countersiege because dc shot at me all the time , i was the only one of two people that put siege down. About 18 others were standing back spamming rapid regen or just sitting in sneak. So i qq ed in zone, realised nobody cared and went one to make my own group with people in ts and had a good time taking many blue keeps.
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  • jeanbulinckxub17_ESO
    No refund and No scaling!

    I think that's good for economy and I wish raising cap level can ocurr every month.

    Of course I'm a very rich farmer/crafter/trader and profit a lot on these events (no, not kidding, maybe just a bit sarcastic).
    I already got a lot of golden materials in stock and ill sell it the second prices sky rocket.
    I don't care about that whinny pvp kids, if they got no gold to spent at my shop let them die.
  • Observant
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    No refund and No scaling!

    I think that's good for economy and I wish raising cap level can ocurr every month.

    Of course I'm a very rich farmer/crafter/trader and profit a lot on these events (no, not kidding, maybe just a bit sarcastic).
    I already got a lot of golden materials in stock and ill sell it the second prices sky rocket.
    I don't care about that whinny pvp kids, if they got no gold to spent at my shop let them die.

    I hope the market flops and you lose everything, including that sour attitude. :)
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  • Bromburak
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    cjthibs wrote: »
    So...for those of us who spent ungodly amounts of AP on VR14 Elite gear from the vendors in Cyrodiil, will there be anything to bring either bring these up to VR16 or refund the AP we spent on those items?

    For those of us who can't PvP every night, 250k AP per piece is an extremely painful process. It might take a month or so to gather enough AP to buy 1 piece.
    (Sometimes far less.)

    Really?

    I love your idea, I bring back my 2 year old truck and ask for a refund to buy me the newest model.
    You know, for those of us who can't work every day, earning a couple thousand dollars is an extremely painful process.
  • Beesting
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    In all the time in pvp i have never been in a situation where the gear i was using seemed to matter much. It is far less important than having tactical awareness (i.e knowing when to stack or to flee) or having the right skill like barrier and purge on your bar

    I think having legendary gear maybe gives people confidence and lets them do heroic (and often stupid) things

    The only difference being nirn gear, i can notice i survive longer and more often since i use that
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  • bosmern_ESO
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    No other MMO's give people scaled gear when the level caps rise (and whose to say that there will be V16 gear from pvp). When V16 comes out, level to V16 and get the gear you want again, its apart of the game.
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    smtdbplus wrote: »
    Tonight, I am going to refund my notebook I bought last year. Coz there is a new model coming out.

    Me too! It's the same notebook, but a slight revision of it just released!

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  • themdogesbite
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    And this is why i got arround 10 - 13 million AP saved up. Muhah.
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  • Quantine
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    Beesting wrote: »
    In all the time in pvp i have never been in a situation where the gear i was using seemed to matter much. It is far less important than having tactical awareness (i.e knowing when to stack or to flee) or having the right skill like barrier and purge on your bar

    I think having legendary gear maybe gives people confidence and lets them do heroic (and often stupid) things

    The only difference being nirn gear, i can notice i survive longer and more often since i use that

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  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    Beesting wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Beesting wrote: »
    100k ap a night is easy, i have 7 million ap saved up just in case, so i dont have to beg my friends like when 1.6 came out xD

    I see. You're one of the reasons 24 of us show up to a keep and I am the only one with siege. Lol

    2015_07_08_03_33_14.jpg


    About 18 others were standing back spamming rapid regen or just sitting in sneak. So i qq ed in zone, realised nobody cared and went one to make my own group with people in ts and had a good time taking many blue keeps.

    firstly lol. (For many reasons but the main one beginning in T and ending in os) secondly I hate rapid regen spammers too. :D
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