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Request for a Arena.
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WebBull✭✭✭✭✭
✭They can't even fix basic bugs in this game. If you haven't noticed, we are still in beta. There is no way they can add any kind of Arena system with out it being a cluster f filled with bugs/exploits/cheaters.0 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They can't even fix basic bugs in this game. If you haven't noticed, we are still in beta. There is no way they can add any kind of Arena system with out it being a cluster f filled with bugs/exploits/cheaters.
That's why some are saying ZoS can use the arena as a "lab" to see with there own characters eyes what exactly needs fixed in a control battle after they recive a report. Say Mr. X used this exploit to kill Mr. Z but does not have proof or a screen shot of the battle with arena they can try to replicate the out come and take proper actions of getting rid of the exploit. Cause I'm sure they can get better results if they slow down the problem and take closer looks at them.1 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Question though.... Would any one object of using dragon star as the arena if ZoS adds one so it can be used by every one instead of buying the Imperial City when it drops cause the imperial city is the only place I know that had a arena except Kavatch but I haven't discovered it yet in Cryodiil which makes me believe it hasn't even been built yet. So yay or nay on DSA being turned into a pvp arena too... Would also kinda force Craglorn to become a cross faction area ;3 for those who been wanting one.0 -
Blazzin-Ace✭✭ZoS this is more than a request this is a need for this game. I love the pvp but like most I left the game due to the repetitiveness of taking the same keeps over and over the zergs and the major lag only to return for 1.6 to experience the same lag and unkilliable players(due to extreme lag) in zergs and server crashes.. An Arena would fix all of that it would give many pvp players an outlet from the norm. An Arena would alleviate the major traffic lag and zerg balls that currently exist.
Arena pvp would not kill Cyrodiil if thats the only way players can earn AP and most importantly I've been a 1v1 tournament player for a long time and most of the pvp community does not participate in the few 1v1 guilds that exist so the idea that by implementing an Area you would lose most of the Cyrodiil population is simply not true.
Adding an Area would only add to pvp and make this game one of the best pvp experiences around due to 1v1, 2v2, etc and a lot less lag in Cyrodiil it's a win win for everybody.4 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Blazzin-Ace wrote: »ZoS this is more than a request this is a need for this game. I love the pvp but like most I left the game due to the repetitiveness of taking the same keeps over and over the zergs and the major lag only to return for 1.6 to experience the same lag and unkilliable players(due to extreme lag) in zergs and server crashes.. An Arena would fix all of that it would give many pvp players an outlet from the norm. An Arena would alleviate the major traffic lag and zerg balls that currently exist.
Arena pvp would not kill Cyrodiil if thats the only way players can earn AP and most importantly I've been a 1v1 tournament player for a long time and most of the pvp community does not participate in the few 1v1 guilds that exist so the idea that by implementing an Area you would lose most of the Cyrodiil population is simply not true.
Adding an Area would only add to pvp and make this game one of the best pvp experiences around due to 1v1, 2v2, etc and a lot less lag in Cyrodiil it's a win win for everybody.
Plus take a look at other MMORPGs how many of them have pvp arena and there pvp is still well and alive.0 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »If "arenas" mean Oblivion-style, 1v1 duelling arenas, then YES, I'm all for it! What I don't want are Zerg-versus-Zerg structured arenas for large groups of "premades" or whatever you call them.
Also, any arenas needs to have appropriate rewards attached: XP, AP, gold and gear. Players should not be punished for playing the game they want to play!
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AP has to do with alliance war. Where would that fit into arenas? And how is that punishing people if they didn't include it? You don't get AP for PvE content... is that punishing also?
AP is a reward you get for killing other players, arenas shouldn't be any different. I can guarantee you a lot of the push for Arenas come from people like me who want to earn PvP gear, but hate large scale PvP because of the zergs and all the boring horse riding. If you need to role-play the whole "Alliance" thing, then just imagine the 1v1 Arena fights to be the equivalent to the scene in the movie Troy where Achilles squares off against the rival army's best fighter:
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LegendaryMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭Exactly. It can be totally lore-friendly with decent additions to the whole war effort. An arena is a part of the TES franchise, ESO is based on TES and therefore should have one.2 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »If "arenas" mean Oblivion-style, 1v1 duelling arenas, then YES, I'm all for it! What I don't want are Zerg-versus-Zerg structured arenas for large groups of "premades" or whatever you call them.
Also, any arenas needs to have appropriate rewards attached: XP, AP, gold and gear. Players should not be punished for playing the game they want to play!
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AP has to do with alliance war. Where would that fit into arenas? And how is that punishing people if they didn't include it? You don't get AP for PvE content... is that punishing also?
AP is a reward you get for killing other players, arenas shouldn't be any different. I can guarantee you a lot of the push for Arenas come from people like me who want to earn PvP gear, but hate large scale PvP because of the zergs and all the boring horse riding. If you need to role-play the whole "Alliance" thing, then just imagine the 1v1 Arena fights to be the equivalent to the scene in the movie Troy where Achilles squares off against the rival army's best fighter:
Well again a problem with earning AP with arena is every one be doing arena for emperorship and all any one really gotta do is ask a friend of a diffrent alliance to fight for a few hours to rack up a ton of AP getting emperorship with out really doing anything to earn it.0 -
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✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »If "arenas" mean Oblivion-style, 1v1 duelling arenas, then YES, I'm all for it! What I don't want are Zerg-versus-Zerg structured arenas for large groups of "premades" or whatever you call them.
Also, any arenas needs to have appropriate rewards attached: XP, AP, gold and gear. Players should not be punished for playing the game they want to play!
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AP has to do with alliance war. Where would that fit into arenas? And how is that punishing people if they didn't include it? You don't get AP for PvE content... is that punishing also?
AP is a reward you get for killing other players, arenas shouldn't be any different. I can guarantee you a lot of the push for Arenas come from people like me who want to earn PvP gear, but hate large scale PvP because of the zergs and all the boring horse riding. If you need to role-play the whole "Alliance" thing, then just imagine the 1v1 Arena fights to be the equivalent to the scene in the movie Troy where Achilles squares off against the rival army's best fighter:
Well again a problem with earning AP with arena is every one be doing arena for emperorship and all any one really gotta do is ask a friend of a diffrent alliance to fight for a few hours to rack up a ton of AP getting emperorship with out really doing anything to earn it.
And again, who said that AP would count on the leaderboard...DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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wraith808✭✭✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »If "arenas" mean Oblivion-style, 1v1 duelling arenas, then YES, I'm all for it! What I don't want are Zerg-versus-Zerg structured arenas for large groups of "premades" or whatever you call them.
Also, any arenas needs to have appropriate rewards attached: XP, AP, gold and gear. Players should not be punished for playing the game they want to play!
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AP has to do with alliance war. Where would that fit into arenas? And how is that punishing people if they didn't include it? You don't get AP for PvE content... is that punishing also?
AP is a reward you get for killing other players, arenas shouldn't be any different. I can guarantee you a lot of the push for Arenas come from people like me who want to earn PvP gear, but hate large scale PvP because of the zergs and all the boring horse riding. If you need to role-play the whole "Alliance" thing, then just imagine the 1v1 Arena fights to be the equivalent to the scene in the movie Troy where Achilles squares off against the rival army's best fighter:
AP Is not just a reward you get for killing other players. It's Alliance Points that you get for contributing to your alliance. There could be other rewards or something like that, but if the intent is for it to be alliance based, then that's just something you can't get without making that contribution.
And as far as your example, that's not the way that the Alliance war has been portrayed. They can do whatever they want, but it seems like there is a push to make everything in the game available even if people don't want to play by the constraints in that particular arena. If there is an implementation of content made towards a particular playing style, then there should be comparable rewards for doing those things. But to suborn the intent of content and rewards just to accommodate a different play style is going to make balancing of the effort and contributions made in those areas prone to failure.Quasim ibn-Muhammad - VR 12 Redguard Dragon Knight
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Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »If "arenas" mean Oblivion-style, 1v1 duelling arenas, then YES, I'm all for it! What I don't want are Zerg-versus-Zerg structured arenas for large groups of "premades" or whatever you call them.
Also, any arenas needs to have appropriate rewards attached: XP, AP, gold and gear. Players should not be punished for playing the game they want to play!
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AP has to do with alliance war. Where would that fit into arenas? And how is that punishing people if they didn't include it? You don't get AP for PvE content... is that punishing also?
AP is a reward you get for killing other players, arenas shouldn't be any different. I can guarantee you a lot of the push for Arenas come from people like me who want to earn PvP gear, but hate large scale PvP because of the zergs and all the boring horse riding. If you need to role-play the whole "Alliance" thing, then just imagine the 1v1 Arena fights to be the equivalent to the scene in the movie Troy where Achilles squares off against the rival army's best fighter:
AP Is not just a reward you get for killing other players. It's Alliance Points that you get for contributing to your alliance..
Then they should give us AP for killing enemy guards and other NPC personnel. But of course ZoS won't do that, because they have these VERY rigid and narrow ideas about what players should be doing in Cyrodiil, which is why they'll probably never implement 1v1 dueling until Zenimax is about to go bankrupt or something.
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Cogo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Request not to ruin the conflict in Cyrodiil with a side PvP system. 2 leaderboards? 2 types of Pvp gear and skills?
Keep to the current plan to evolve Cyro, add more flavor and option for warfare and release Imperial City!
The only arena that would be acceptable would be a bar fight type match. 1v1 with players able to watch. The rewards are fame. Nothing else. No link to the current system.
People would pay nicely to see someone beat up Oghur ;-)Edited by Cogo on April 24, 2015 6:45PMOghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
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Donum-Dei✭✭✭I DanniBoi SIGNED.
I will love to be part of the arena and place bets, to see who won or not? heck I want this to be true, I remember when in oblivion I always place bets and participate, this could bring so much richness to the game and make it more alive, and have more options to participate with other guild members and against other guild.
This is a must have.
Ideas:
Having 1vs1 up to 10vs10
Placing bets as a guild against others guilds by representing our guild members.
Let's say both guilds are ready to place the bets against one another by favoring his guild member, and watch the battle. After battle is over, who ever wins, can earn reputation has a arena contender, that reputation points can get to the player (the participant) an amount of points depending the amount of bet that has being present it, and that points that the participant won is more points for the alliance.Who ever loose, well it wont get nothing.
Participate in arena as a solo player
This option can be given as another side story within the Arena. (no matter if you are vet rank or no vet rank)
Side quest Arena - Veteran Rank
In here you can be a contender and earn achievements by taking down the arena champions (npc's). Make this challenging and with a lot of champions to take down. And earn the title/achievement as a "Arena Champion", only players that are level Veteran Rank can participate, from veteran rank 1 going up.
Besides the story as a vet rank player, we can also choose what we want to fight and how many enemies, depending the enemies, the more coins and points we earn.
Side quest Arena - Non Veteran Rank
Now, players that are not veteran ranks can participate too in this arena side quest but will not fight any champions until the player is a veteran rank. So any player that is not veteran yet, can still fight npcs and monsters of tamriel or other npcs, including pvp at their same level.
Guild Call Outs
This can be made as an in game option to call out any guild members in game, when doing so, there will be a message that will be appearing to the guild. So a guild battle can be made by gamers in game.
Social competitions (by month)
This option can be given to every body in every level and every guild in every level as well. Now how can this work? Easy place a forum competition monthly that can be called....
"The Arena Social competition for VR players" (or something like that)
This could be choose as groups:
Group 1: Name vs Name
Group 2: Name vs Name
(Depending if any particular competition of that month is divided by groups on how many players you guys can choose)
Here any VR player can write the word "signed" in the forum event page, and everyone has 24 hrs to "sign" then a random moderator will close the threat writing the players name that they choose. (the name of the account they are using). Then every player in tamriel can go to that arena to place bets against each player that is going to fight.
And also, it could be nice to have a armor for that pvp arena competition, that you have can only win it by the most kills, and it can be implemented as the same like the emperor armor. (but with another armor that goes with the theme of the arena)
"The Arena Social competition for Guild members"
Here will be the same but the difference will be, each guild will have to prepare in advance and this competition will be announce the end of each month, so the other month (with date) can be the arena guild fight. Also each guild that wins many battles against other guild members can win as a guild a arena armors set.
Obvious that any guild can participate, and how it will be, easy as well.. but in addition to this so it can be well organized.
Make a threat that allows those guild members to send a invitation to his guild master so that guild master can accept it by sending the "accept invitation" to ESO and by choosing how many guild members has accept it the invitation, from there it will start the arena competition for guild members. Or a message to everyone (in case they do not visit)
Note: For those who do not visit the forum much, it will be nice to see a prompt message in the game that tells us that a guild arena fight will take place in a amount of time/hours, so everyone can go and make their bets if they want to.
P.s. This could give a huge boost to the side part for the social environment with every single player across the world!.1 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I DanniBoi SIGNED.
I will love to be part of the arena and place bets, to see who won or not? heck I want this to be true, I remember when in oblivion I always place bets and participate, this could bring so much richness to the game and make it more alive, and have more options to participate with other guild members and against other guild.
This is a must have.
Ideas:
Having 1vs1 up to 10vs10
Placing bets as a guild against others guilds by representing our guild members.
Let's say both guilds are ready to place the bets against one another by favoring his guild member, and watch the battle. After battle is over, who ever wins, can earn reputation has a arena contender, that reputation points can get to the player (the participant) an amount of points depending the amount of bet that has being present it, and that points that the participant won is more points for the alliance.Who ever loose, well it wont get nothing.
Participate in arena as a solo player
This option can be given as another side story within the Arena. (no matter if you are vet rank or no vet rank)
Side quest Arena - Veteran Rank
In here you can be a contender and earn achievements by taking down the arena champions (npc's). Make this challenging and with a lot of champions to take down. And earn the title/achievement as a "Arena Champion", only players that are level Veteran Rank can participate, from veteran rank 1 going up.
Besides the story as a vet rank player, we can also choose what we want to fight and how many enemies, depending the enemies, the more coins and points we earn.
Side quest Arena - Non Veteran Rank
Now, players that are not veteran ranks can participate too in this arena side quest but will not fight any champions until the player is a veteran rank. So any player that is not veteran yet, can still fight npcs and monsters of tamriel or other npcs, including pvp at their same level.
Guild Call Outs
This can be made as an in game option to call out any guild members in game, when doing so, there will be a message that will be appearing to the guild. So a guild battle can be made by gamers in game.
Social competitions (by month)
This option can be given to every body in every level and every guild in every level as well. Now how can this work? Easy place a forum competition monthly that can be called....
"The Arena Social competition for VR players" (or something like that)
This could be choose as groups:
Group 1: Name vs Name
Group 2: Name vs Name
(Depending if any particular competition of that month is divided by groups on how many players you guys can choose)
Here any VR player can write the word "signed" in the forum event page, and everyone has 24 hrs to "sign" then a random moderator will close the threat writing the players name that they choose. (the name of the account they are using). Then every player in tamriel can go to that arena to place bets against each player that is going to fight.
And also, it could be nice to have a armor for that pvp arena competition, that you have can only win it by the most kills, and it can be implemented as the same like the emperor armor. (but with another armor that goes with the theme of the arena)
"The Arena Social competition for Guild members"
Here will be the same but the difference will be, each guild will have to prepare in advance and this competition will be announce the end of each month, so the other month (with date) can be the arena guild fight. Also each guild that wins many battles against other guild members can win as a guild a arena armors set.
Obvious that any guild can participate, and how it will be, easy as well.. but in addition to this so it can be well organized.
Make a threat that allows those guild members to send a invitation to his guild master so that guild master can accept it by sending the "accept invitation" to ESO and by choosing how many guild members has accept it the invitation, from there it will start the arena competition for guild members. Or a message to everyone (in case they do not visit)
Note: For those who do not visit the forum much, it will be nice to see a prompt message in the game that tells us that a guild arena fight will take place in a amount of time/hours, so everyone can go and make their bets if they want to.
P.s. This could give a huge boost to the side part for the social environment with every single player across the world!.
And this is why we talk about a idea.0 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Been awhile since some posted so I thought I get the ideas for a arena going again but a idea has pretty much already been made so guess it's just up to you ZoS to put it in and Imperial city is coming fast so please put it in. Alot of players made it clear that they are willing to sign in blood for a PvP arena so just do it you know you want to. Just do it
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ShadowWolf613✭✭✭I want arena or small scaled PVP like warhammers Scenarios. With good amount of xp gain as well.0 -
Docmandu✭✭✭✭✭
✭ShadowWolf613 wrote: »I want arena or small scaled PVP like warhammers Scenarios. With good amount of xp gain as well.
Then go play warhammer! Oh wait... nevermind...
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Seth_Black✭✭✭I just hope ZOS stands its ground and 'no arenas' means NO ARENASOut of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.
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Observant✭✭✭✭Seth_Black wrote: »I just hope ZOS stands its ground and 'no arenas' means NO ARENAS
Why are you so scared of other people having an option that suits their tastes?Vehemence0 -
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✭✭With the current combat system a 1v1 would suck. It's just gonna be endless fights if you go up against equally skilled players most of the time. I would really like group arenas.. from 3v3 to 8v8- EU - Raid Leader of Banana Zerg Squad
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In theory, I would love an arena. In practice, it's another piece for ZoS to balance. PvE vs. 1v1 vs. 4v4 vs. ZvZ.
"A group of 4 (class 1) beat my group of 4 (class 2). Nerf (class 1) now !". Class 1 may be perfectly balanced for PvE, 1v1 and ZvZ but now all those pieces will need to be changed for the sake of 4v4. Get Cyrodiil to a good place first, then start considering adding another component to balance.
On the other hand, the PvP forums would become more of a whining, self-congratulatory, circle-jerk than it already is and who doesn't want to see that?0 -
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✭✭Hears_Bright_Colors wrote: »
On the other hand, the PvP forums would become more of a whining, self-congratulatory, circle-jerk than it already is and who doesn't want to see that?
I know some players whine about anything but would make for a nice comedic reading material though. But all in all the programers at ZoS said how they mainly test bugs now is with bots so I don't how having a arena a closed off space would hurt bug fixing when they can have a controled area to test and re-create said bugs.0 -
BurtFreeman✭✭✭my vision of tamriel unlimited tourament
PVE (solo)
bosses and group content: scaled difficulty from 1 to X and ranking dashboard
PVP 1v1
once ranked, the pve winners may fight with players of the same rank : the winner will acquire a pvp rank that enable to partecipate at group battle and at the ultimate carnage
PVP 4v4: small group fight. the winner group will have access at the rampage
PVP RAMPAGE: all versus all (12 v 12): the ultimate fighting championship: only one survive.
GAMBLING: there will be an audiences place, with the possibility of gambling, another game in agame
ranking, rewards and experience point will be the foundation of the gladiators arena system:
something like: the ultimate champion could be require by the best blacksmith of tamriel a yellow set he like, ....
there are unlimited option to put in tamriel unlimited tournament.Edited by BurtFreeman on July 6, 2015 3:12PM0 -
Docmandu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Seth_Black wrote: »I just hope ZOS stands its ground and 'no arenas' means NO ARENAS
Why are you so scared of other people having an option that suits their tastes?
I want a cheese helmet that I can pop on my head in Cyrodiil.. why can't I have that option? Same reason why you can't have your precious arenas. (actually.. the cheese helmet would probably fit the lore/setting of the game more than arenas would.. so guess it's a bad example)
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Observant✭✭✭✭Seth_Black wrote: »I just hope ZOS stands its ground and 'no arenas' means NO ARENAS
Why are you so scared of other people having an option that suits their tastes?
I want a cheese helmet that I can pop on my head in Cyrodiil.. why can't I have that option? Same reason why you can't have your precious arenas. (actually.. the cheese helmet would probably fit the lore/setting of the game more than arenas would.. so guess it's a bad example)
Anyone with a legitimate, debatable stance on this?
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]Edited by ZOS_ArtG on July 6, 2015 4:29PMVehemence0 -
Observant✭✭✭✭edit: changed it to rude/insulting comments from naming and shaming.
That I can agree with. gg ZOSEdited by Observant on July 6, 2015 4:45PMVehemence0 -
LegendaryMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭People who say an arena would be unbalanced, fights wouldn't be fair and so on and so on. No one would force you to enter it...
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pjwb16_ESO✭✭✭✭I would like to have an Arena and a Cheese Helm for my Character. Cheese Helms are awesome... Please give me a Cheese Helm. Now.
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭LegendaryMage wrote: »People who say an arena would be unbalanced, fights wouldn't be fair and so on and so on. No one would force you to enter it...
Excatly .... they can just go bet on the "unfair" matches 0
