even if zos made a confirmation of arena being added, you know it wont be added for at least a year.
they could care less about PC users now, especially the PvP ones, which they still havent given new content to a year after release.
Rook_Master wrote: »Please do NOT add arenas. Cyrodiil has issues, but I will take that over boring arenas any day.
Rune_Relic wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »So after reading the 50th post about adding a arena dueling or something like that think we should just have a petition for one. So if ZoS really does read the forums and really does work on our feed back then hopefully they'll add a arena into ESO.
Also as a little bonus any warrior who goes on a winning streak in the arena gets "of course better rewards" but the battles can be modded from either a regular stander no holds back fight to no skills or one weapon fights.
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You had me right upto that point when the real intent became clear.
Its not about a simple duelling ability, its about another power grab and completely independent playstyle.
Swiftly followed by demands for special "dualing gear".
Give an inch take a mile.
I'd rather see cyrodiil fixed. People still duel anyway....for sport, not for profit.
I am happy to see an arena.
I am happy to see gambling on combat
When it comes to player "special rewards" for duelling you have crossed the line for me.
That means you are in it for the gear ...not the combat....not the reputation.
Darklord_Tiberius wrote: »LOL. They need to balance the classes and fix a ton of skills before introducing structured PVP. Just sayin.
Rook_Master wrote: »Please do NOT add arenas. Cyrodiil has issues, but I will take that over boring arenas any day.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Well ZoS is reading so let's give ideas for them. As I said in my first post that was my idea for a arena and after some time of thinking and reading other thoughts maybe we can do with out special rewards (was talking about voidsteel swords and shadow spun armor.). Also for those who think a arena will kill Cyrodiil remember there be NO AP gain and WILL NOT effect the leaderboard. It will not effect pvp in any way at all. Just some players wanna do a 1v1 or group vs group. Also do keep in mind alot of other MMORPGs have a form of pvp arena and there pvp is still good.
I like pvp as much as the next guy but I love to really test my skills and build in a 1v1 with out having to worry about the enemy player either running away when there close to death or them getting zerg reinforcements mid way through battle. Plus there just something about being in a arena just seems so right. I don't know if it's the towering walls or the cheers of the spectators.
indigoblades wrote: »I want an Arena, at times i need a break from Cyrodiil.
vortexman11 wrote: »can't really do that anymore
Would kill Cyrodiil which would in turn fix the lag in Cyro because no one wants to deal with that. Won't admit their failure in the most promising part of the game. Arenas would bring back lots of people though, but I doubt they care about the more hardcore players.
It would not kill Cyrodiil. There are 4 major campaigns rolling right now with at least 2 factions into each of them going max pop at primetime. If they introduced other instances of PvP such as arenas, they could probably get ride of one or two campaign depending how it goes, and once arenas start getting more and more popular, bringing tons and tons of new players and old players back, then they can reconsider adding those campaigns back into Cyrodiil.
The most important factor is to make sure that at least one campaign stay competitive (all factions with equal population most possible) and that arenas are LAG FREE.
However, Cyro done right is the best PvP you can get in any game imo. It's just been destroyed by game breaking bugs that somehow takes months to fix and ridiculous lag. Anything to allow constant pvp with no lag should be done.
Would kill Cyrodiil which would in turn fix the lag in Cyro because no one wants to deal with that. Won't admit their failure in the most promising part of the game. Arenas would bring back lots of people though, but I doubt they care about the more hardcore players.
It would not kill Cyrodiil. There are 4 major campaigns rolling right now with at least 2 factions into each of them going max pop at primetime. If they introduced other instances of PvP such as arenas, they could probably get ride of one or two campaign depending how it goes, and once arenas start getting more and more popular, bringing tons and tons of new players and old players back, then they can reconsider adding those campaigns back into Cyrodiil.
The most important factor is to make sure that at least one campaign stay competitive (all factions with equal population most possible) and that arenas are LAG FREE.
An arena will show that it only takes 4 people to lag a server (less than that, actually) and thus will be the perfect petri dish for devs to study.
Would kill Cyrodiil which would in turn fix the lag in Cyro because no one wants to deal with that. Won't admit their failure in the most promising part of the game. Arenas would bring back lots of people though, but I doubt they care about the more hardcore players.
Would there be less people in Cyro? Probably.
But would it kill Cyro? Pry not... Cyro still has it's place for larger scale battles.
But if they did release structured PvP, and everyone started doing that instead.. all that really shows is that's what people want. It's not like you'd be "forced" to do the structured PvP.
Personally... the Zerg balls and endless lag are getting annoying. I'm having more fun doing small fights in delves than running around in a Zerg farming AP.
People have wanted it since the game was in beta. However, Cyro done right is the best PvP you can get in any game imo. It's just been destroyed by game breaking bugs that somehow takes months to fix and ridiculous lag. Anything to allow constant pvp with no lag should be done.
vortexman11 wrote: »Darklord_Tiberius wrote: »LOL. They need to balance the classes and fix a ton of skills before introducing structured PVP. Just sayin.
Maybe in smaller Arena situations it would be easier to see which classes need reworking?
kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Would kill Cyrodiil which would in turn fix the lag in Cyro because no one wants to deal with that. Won't admit their failure in the most promising part of the game. Arenas would bring back lots of people though, but I doubt they care about the more hardcore players.
It would not kill Cyrodiil. There are 4 major campaigns rolling right now with at least 2 factions into each of them going max pop at primetime. If they introduced other instances of PvP such as arenas, they could probably get ride of one or two campaign depending how it goes, and once arenas start getting more and more popular, bringing tons and tons of new players and old players back, then they can reconsider adding those campaigns back into Cyrodiil.
The most important factor is to make sure that at least one campaign stay competitive (all factions with equal population most possible) and that arenas are LAG FREE.
I agree some, all types pvp will have it's own problems, small scale matches will suffer from pre-mades, which can ruin players fun just as much as the current imbalance we have in cyrodiil, there really is no fix that will fix all, I am not really a big supporter of small scale pvp did it a lot in other games, but I am not totally against it either, if it gives players options and more things to do, I am all for that, I might not take part in it, but others might love it, and that is great, I think options are always good in games as there are some many different play styles coming together in an mmo. I just hope players do not think other types of pvp would be some flawless game fix, and end up disappointed again. I do not think it would kill cyrodiil, but is a fine line, on how you reward players that take part in both types of pvp.
^ constructive post right there.
I'd like to see arena, ESO combat seems perfect for that type of PvP, being reaction based
Rewards should be decent enough to make it worthwhile, but not exclusive or overpowered to prevent the decline of cyrodiil population.
3 way arena would be awesome to stream/watch, and would likely draw in a lot of new competitive players who wouldn't have otherwise been interested in the game.
SafiyerAmitora wrote: »I'd really like this to be added.It's hard enough for those of us in Legend to get duels going when maps are either all one color or two are making massive pushes and making it hard for the third side to reach a dueling spot (riding halfway across the map only to get ganked when all you meant to do is get to the duels gets frustrating after awhile). And sometimes, when the map IS okay and we get duels going, then one or two sides pushes the other one or two sides back, it gets hard for those who came late to get to the spot, and once duels are going and a lot of players get there, it gets exceedingly difficult to move them. An Arena would help with this... A lot. Would probably make tourneys a lot easier, too.
#SignedInBloodForestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Well ZoS is reading so let's give ideas for them. As I said in my first post that was my idea for a arena and after some time of thinking and reading other thoughts maybe we can do with out special rewards (was talking about voidsteel swords and shadow spun armor.). Also for those who think a arena will kill Cyrodiil remember there be NO AP gain and WILL NOT effect the leaderboard. It will not effect pvp in any way at all. Just some players wanna do a 1v1 or group vs group. Also do keep in mind alot of other MMORPGs have a form of pvp arena and there pvp is still good.
I like pvp as much as the next guy but I love to really test my skills and build in a 1v1 with out having to worry about the enemy player either running away when there close to death or them getting zerg reinforcements mid way through battle. Plus there just something about being in a arena just seems so right. I don't know if it's the towering walls or the cheers of the spectators.
^This. +1