Strongest PvP class as of now

BugCollector · July 2015

PBpsy · July 2015

Lag master

Bashev · July 2015

Nightblade

NB followed by Sorc.

BuggeX · July 2015

Dragonknight

DK

runing away like a *** doesnt Count as strongest class

Leandor · July 2015

Templar

All vote templar so we don't get another nerf things thread.

BugCollector · July 2015

Nightblade

Off topic: I really think that some of the strongest skills of some classes (Bolt Escape, Cloak) should have a cooldown on them.

BugCollector · July 2015

Nightblade

Leandor wrote: »

All vote templar so we don't get another nerf things thread.

Hah, you won't see them anymore from me. And thx for the troll vote!

MrBeatDown · July 2015

Dragonknight

Its really a tough choice. The reason why NB is in the lead right now is because they Double Pot. Which i would think is an exploit.

Pman85 · July 2015

Nightblade

NB.

Garion · July 2015

Nightblade

BuggeX wrote: »

DK

runing away like a *** doesnt Count as strongest class

No, but NBs ability to cloak and dictate the terms of a fight makes it a strong mechanic if used correctly. Twin with their ability to deal insane burst damage and mitigate damage with dodge roll (I know other classes can dodge roll, but NBs synergise with that style of play far better than any other class) and in the right hands an NB can do some incredible damage in PvP, making it by far the strongest class.

Dragonknights are certainly not the strongest. Yes, they can stand their ground but most of the tanky builds do very little in the way of damage. Those that output very high damage are very squishy for the most part and struggle against anything with any sort of mobility. When they stop flame lash going through dodge roll, this will be even more noticeable.

pjwb16_ESO · July 2015

Noone of the classes above:

@Soulac is a nub

MCMancub · July 2015

This is not a good poll. You realize each class has multiple roles, right? I would argue Magicka DK is far and away the best, but if I vote DK it's likely to give the impression I mean stamina DK.

There is no distinction between Magicka and Stamina NB or Templar, either.

tinythinker · July 2015

As always, whatever my opponent is playing. #NerfEveryoneButMe

Dracane · July 2015

Nightblade

NB>DK>Sorc>Templar in my opinion

MrBeatDown · July 2015

Dragonknight

MCMancub wrote: »

This is not a good poll. You realize each class has multiple roles, right? I would argue Magicka DK is far and away the best, but if I vote DK it's likely to give the impression I mean stamina DK.

There is no distinction between Magicka and Stamina NB or Templar, either.

Yep, Magicka Dk for the win. Most dont realize it because they use net builds. Until you disect a Dk you have no idea.... With Max CPS on paper, Dk is teh clear winner.

Leandor · July 2015

Templar

BugCollector wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

All vote templar so we don't get another nerf things thread.

Hah, you won't see them anymore from me. And thx for the troll vote!

You're welcome! Bonus points for having a sense of humor

Garion · July 2015

Nightblade

MCMancub wrote: »

This is not a good poll. You realize each class has multiple roles, right? I would argue Magicka DK is far and away the best, but if I vote DK it's likely to give the impression I mean stamina DK.

There is no distinction between Magicka and Stamina NB or Templar, either.

A fair argument but as this is a broad view of classes you could argue that your decision is should include how well classes can synergise with each resource. For instance NB (surprise surprise) are able to play both magicka and stamina very successfully with each option offering a lot of diversity. Templar would come a close second in this respect (minus the diversity) but DKs are far behind the curve in third place with sorcs sitting at the bottom of the ladder with magicka being the only truly viable option. Thus I would continue to argue that NBs are the strongest class in PvP because it is irrelevant which resource they focus on.

Also I fail to see how you can categorise magicka DKs as the strongest class in PvP. In the right hands it can do spectacularly well, granted, but short of doing excellent damage it lacks strength largely because the class has suffered nerf after nerf as a result of QQ on this very forum.

MCMancub · July 2015

Garion wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

This is not a good poll. You realize each class has multiple roles, right? I would argue Magicka DK is far and away the best, but if I vote DK it's likely to give the impression I mean stamina DK.

There is no distinction between Magicka and Stamina NB or Templar, either.

A fair argument but as this is a broad view of classes you could argue that your decision is should include how well classes can synergise with each resource. For instance NB (surprise surprise) are able to play both magicka and stamina very successfully with each option offering a lot of diversity. Templar would come a close second in this respect (minus the diversity) but DKs are far behind the curve in third place with sorcs sitting at the bottom of the ladder with magicka being the only truly viable option. Thus I would continue to argue that NBs are the strongest class in PvP because it is irrelevant which resource they focus on.

Also I fail to see how you can categorise magicka DKs as the strongest class in PvP. In the right hands it can do spectacularly well, granted, but short of doing excellent damage it lacks strength largely because the class has suffered nerf after nerf as a result of QQ on this very forum.

That's exactly why this is such a terrible poll. Magicka and Stamina NB play wildly differently and have very different roles. One is a very, very niche playstyle that can only do well in select situations, the other isn't. Let's lump them together because they both say "Nightblade"? Bad poll is bad. Admit it.

You've not been around the block if you don't recognize that Magicka DK is head over heels better than every other class right now.

reften · July 2015

Dragonknight

Dks are best is most situations.

NBs - 1v1 burst do best, but not against a decently built DK.
Sorcs negate is still a critical skill, but the nerfs to light armor and negate...and not shield stacking will hurt
Templars - Most flexible. They can go 3600+ weapon damage and be a massive DPS'er. Or be a healer.
Now DKs? DKs live, they have the best ults in game, can heal themselves, and have access to DW.

I say on a rating from 1-10 group based (10 is the great)

NBs 6
Sorcs 6
DKs 8
Templars 10

I say on a rating from 1-10 1v1 or small group fighting (10 is the great)
NBs 4 (10 if we get the jump on you)
Sorcs 4
Templars 4 (10 if a stam DPS build)
DKs 10

pjwb16_ESO · July 2015

reften wrote: »

Dks are best is most situations.

NBs - 1v1 burst do best, but not against a decently built DK.
Sorcs negate is still a critical skill, but the nerfs to light armor and negate...and not shield stacking will hurt
Templars - Most flexible. They can go 3600+ weapon damage and be a massive DPS'er. Or be a healer.
Now DKs? DKs live, they have the best ults in game, can heal themselves, and have access to DW.

I say on a rating from 1-10 group based (10 is the great)

NBs 6
Sorcs 6
DKs 8
Templars 10

I say on a rating from 1-10 1v1 or small group fighting (10 is the great)
NBs 4 (10 if we get the jump on you)
Sorcs 4
Templars 4 (10 if a stam DPS build)
DKs 10

wrong, i think im at least a decent nb and i fought some decent dks too and im able to burst them too

BugCollector · July 2015

Nightblade

Leandor wrote: »

BugCollector wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

All vote templar so we don't get another nerf things thread.

Hah, you won't see them anymore from me. And thx for the troll vote!

You're welcome! Bonus points for having a sense of humor

MCMancub · July 2015

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

reften wrote: »

Dks are best is most situations.

NBs - 1v1 burst do best, but not against a decently built DK.
Sorcs negate is still a critical skill, but the nerfs to light armor and negate...and not shield stacking will hurt
Templars - Most flexible. They can go 3600+ weapon damage and be a massive DPS'er. Or be a healer.
Now DKs? DKs live, they have the best ults in game, can heal themselves, and have access to DW.

I say on a rating from 1-10 group based (10 is the great)

NBs 6
Sorcs 6
DKs 8
Templars 10

I say on a rating from 1-10 1v1 or small group fighting (10 is the great)
NBs 4 (10 if we get the jump on you)
Sorcs 4
Templars 4 (10 if a stam DPS build)
DKs 10

wrong, i think im at least a decent nb and i fought some decent dks too and im able to burst them too

By all means, that makes NB the best? Unless you're THE BEST NB fighting THE BEST DK, your argument makes no sense.

BuggeX · July 2015

Dragonknight

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

reften wrote: »

Dks are best is most situations.

NBs - 1v1 burst do best, but not against a decently built DK.
Sorcs negate is still a critical skill, but the nerfs to light armor and negate...and not shield stacking will hurt
Templars - Most flexible. They can go 3600+ weapon damage and be a massive DPS'er. Or be a healer.
Now DKs? DKs live, they have the best ults in game, can heal themselves, and have access to DW.

I say on a rating from 1-10 group based (10 is the great)

NBs 6
Sorcs 6
DKs 8
Templars 10

I say on a rating from 1-10 1v1 or small group fighting (10 is the great)
NBs 4 (10 if we get the jump on you)
Sorcs 4
Templars 4 (10 if a stam DPS build)
DKs 10

wrong, i think im at least a decent nb and i fought some decent dks too and im able to burst them too

From stealth yes, and this is becaus the DMG Output and DMG Input at Pysicall DMG is going out of controll.

19k with snipe from steahlth or even 28k from wreakingblow from stealth is nothing else than broken.

But anyway, if the DK survive you inital burst, you are going to die or atleast you have to run like a puss

pjwb16_ESO · July 2015

BuggeX wrote: »

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

reften wrote: »

Dks are best is most situations.

NBs - 1v1 burst do best, but not against a decently built DK.
Sorcs negate is still a critical skill, but the nerfs to light armor and negate...and not shield stacking will hurt
Templars - Most flexible. They can go 3600+ weapon damage and be a massive DPS'er. Or be a healer.
Now DKs? DKs live, they have the best ults in game, can heal themselves, and have access to DW.

I say on a rating from 1-10 group based (10 is the great)

NBs 6
Sorcs 6
DKs 8
Templars 10

I say on a rating from 1-10 1v1 or small group fighting (10 is the great)
NBs 4 (10 if we get the jump on you)
Sorcs 4
Templars 4 (10 if a stam DPS build)
DKs 10

wrong, i think im at least a decent nb and i fought some decent dks too and im able to burst them too

From stealth yes, and this is becaus the DMG Output and DMG Input at Pysicall DMG is going out of controll.

19k with snipe from steahlth or even 28k from wreakingblow from stealth is nothing else than broken.

But anyway, if the DK survive you inital burst, you are going to die or atleast you have to run like a puss

no not from stealth lol im in no way a *** ganker, im playing a magicka nb mostly -.- and it was a duel in which i fought him, just check my duel videos on my channel if you dont believe me lol

Garion · July 2015

Nightblade

MCMancub wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

This is not a good poll. You realize each class has multiple roles, right? I would argue Magicka DK is far and away the best, but if I vote DK it's likely to give the impression I mean stamina DK.

There is no distinction between Magicka and Stamina NB or Templar, either.

A fair argument but as this is a broad view of classes you could argue that your decision is should include how well classes can synergise with each resource. For instance NB (surprise surprise) are able to play both magicka and stamina very successfully with each option offering a lot of diversity. Templar would come a close second in this respect (minus the diversity) but DKs are far behind the curve in third place with sorcs sitting at the bottom of the ladder with magicka being the only truly viable option. Thus I would continue to argue that NBs are the strongest class in PvP because it is irrelevant which resource they focus on.

Also I fail to see how you can categorise magicka DKs as the strongest class in PvP. In the right hands it can do spectacularly well, granted, but short of doing excellent damage it lacks strength largely because the class has suffered nerf after nerf as a result of QQ on this very forum.

That's exactly why this is such a terrible poll. Magicka and Stamina NB play wildly differently and have very different roles. One is a very, very niche playstyle that can only do well in select situations, the other isn't. Let's lump them together because they both say "Nightblade"? Bad poll is bad. Admit it.

You've not been around the block if you don't recognize that Magicka DK is head over heels better than every other class right now.

I still see your point but I think if we are looking at things from a broader prospective.

I've "been around the block" a fair few times and I'm afraid I don't see what you're saying about magicka DKs. They have a lot of damage and can keep the pressure up great in 1v1 situations but beyond that I don't see how they could be considered as strong as NBs who have equal damage and significantly more survivability.

Edit: on a side note, are you a Nightblade, per chance?

MCMancub · July 2015

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

reften wrote: »

Dks are best is most situations.

NBs - 1v1 burst do best, but not against a decently built DK.
Sorcs negate is still a critical skill, but the nerfs to light armor and negate...and not shield stacking will hurt
Templars - Most flexible. They can go 3600+ weapon damage and be a massive DPS'er. Or be a healer.
Now DKs? DKs live, they have the best ults in game, can heal themselves, and have access to DW.

I say on a rating from 1-10 group based (10 is the great)

NBs 6
Sorcs 6
DKs 8
Templars 10

I say on a rating from 1-10 1v1 or small group fighting (10 is the great)
NBs 4 (10 if we get the jump on you)
Sorcs 4
Templars 4 (10 if a stam DPS build)
DKs 10

wrong, i think im at least a decent nb and i fought some decent dks too and im able to burst them too

From stealth yes, and this is becaus the DMG Output and DMG Input at Pysicall DMG is going out of controll.

19k with snipe from steahlth or even 28k from wreakingblow from stealth is nothing else than broken.

But anyway, if the DK survive you inital burst, you are going to die or atleast you have to run like a puss

no not from stealth lol im in no way a *** ganker, im playing a magicka nb mostly -.- and it was a duel in which i fought him, just check my duel videos on my channel if you dont believe me lol

Implying there's more ways to play Magicka Nightblade effectively than stealth + proximity + soul tether...

MrBeatDown · July 2015

Dragonknight

They are supposed to kick the NB between the legs this next update anyways. Hopefully they fix the Double Potion No cool down Problem too. Its to easy to hit a Stamina potion, then roll over to Your choice of craft stam potion and get double the resource recovery with no penalty. Thats part of how they can roll dodge and break free so easy. That stacked with something like Engine guardian is almost infinite resource for them. NB's are basically like fleas on a dog that cant be scratched. For my Dk, they are hardly a threat, just a nuisance.

pjwb16_ESO · July 2015

MCMancub wrote: »

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

reften wrote: »

Dks are best is most situations.

NBs - 1v1 burst do best, but not against a decently built DK.
Sorcs negate is still a critical skill, but the nerfs to light armor and negate...and not shield stacking will hurt
Templars - Most flexible. They can go 3600+ weapon damage and be a massive DPS'er. Or be a healer.
Now DKs? DKs live, they have the best ults in game, can heal themselves, and have access to DW.

I say on a rating from 1-10 group based (10 is the great)

NBs 6
Sorcs 6
DKs 8
Templars 10

I say on a rating from 1-10 1v1 or small group fighting (10 is the great)
NBs 4 (10 if we get the jump on you)
Sorcs 4
Templars 4 (10 if a stam DPS build)
DKs 10

wrong, i think im at least a decent nb and i fought some decent dks too and im able to burst them too

By all means, that makes NB the best? Unless you're THE BEST NB fighting THE BEST DK, your argument makes no sense.

do you even think before yyou write something mate? normally people should do it but in your case it doesnt seem as you did it

pjwb16_ESO · July 2015

MCMancub wrote: »

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

reften wrote: »

Dks are best is most situations.

NBs - 1v1 burst do best, but not against a decently built DK.
Sorcs negate is still a critical skill, but the nerfs to light armor and negate...and not shield stacking will hurt
Templars - Most flexible. They can go 3600+ weapon damage and be a massive DPS'er. Or be a healer.
Now DKs? DKs live, they have the best ults in game, can heal themselves, and have access to DW.

I say on a rating from 1-10 group based (10 is the great)

NBs 6
Sorcs 6
DKs 8
Templars 10

I say on a rating from 1-10 1v1 or small group fighting (10 is the great)
NBs 4 (10 if we get the jump on you)
Sorcs 4
Templars 4 (10 if a stam DPS build)
DKs 10

wrong, i think im at least a decent nb and i fought some decent dks too and im able to burst them too

From stealth yes, and this is becaus the DMG Output and DMG Input at Pysicall DMG is going out of controll.

19k with snipe from steahlth or even 28k from wreakingblow from stealth is nothing else than broken.

But anyway, if the DK survive you inital burst, you are going to die or atleast you have to run like a puss

no not from stealth lol im in no way a *** ganker, im playing a magicka nb mostly -.- and it was a duel in which i fought him, just check my duel videos on my channel if you dont believe me lol

Implying there's more ways to play Magicka Nightblade effectively than stealth + proximity + soul tether...

And yes their are a lot more ways -.- just theorycraft a bit but most people seem to lazy for this right?

MCMancub · July 2015

Garion wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

MCMancub wrote: »

This is not a good poll. You realize each class has multiple roles, right? I would argue Magicka DK is far and away the best, but if I vote DK it's likely to give the impression I mean stamina DK.

There is no distinction between Magicka and Stamina NB or Templar, either.

A fair argument but as this is a broad view of classes you could argue that your decision is should include how well classes can synergise with each resource. For instance NB (surprise surprise) are able to play both magicka and stamina very successfully with each option offering a lot of diversity. Templar would come a close second in this respect (minus the diversity) but DKs are far behind the curve in third place with sorcs sitting at the bottom of the ladder with magicka being the only truly viable option. Thus I would continue to argue that NBs are the strongest class in PvP because it is irrelevant which resource they focus on.

Also I fail to see how you can categorise magicka DKs as the strongest class in PvP. In the right hands it can do spectacularly well, granted, but short of doing excellent damage it lacks strength largely because the class has suffered nerf after nerf as a result of QQ on this very forum.

That's exactly why this is such a terrible poll. Magicka and Stamina NB play wildly differently and have very different roles. One is a very, very niche playstyle that can only do well in select situations, the other isn't. Let's lump them together because they both say "Nightblade"? Bad poll is bad. Admit it.

You've not been around the block if you don't recognize that Magicka DK is head over heels better than every other class right now.

I still see your point but I think if we are looking at things from a broader prospective.

I've "been around the block" a fair few times and I'm afraid I don't see what you're saying about magicka DKs. They have a lot of damage and can keep the pressure up great in 1v1 situations but beyond that I don't see how they could be considered as strong as NBs who have equal damage and significantly more survivability.

Edit: on a side note, are you a Nightblade, per chance?

I don't understand, Magicka DK's are BEST in situations with multiple characters. They can easily take out 4-5 players by themselves (provided they are good and know what they're doing). It's what they're built to do: overtime, aoe damage. Nightblades can't do this.

Cherryblossom · July 2015

Dragonknight

I say DK on the simple basis that any Noob can play them well and survive, it take a certain amount of skill to play a NB well, I find most NB easy pickings on my Templar!

The same goes for Sorc's which are hard hitting and have amazing defense.

Poor Templar, although my favourite class, just feels lacking currently. Heals are still awesome.

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