we need add ons

toad_123 · July 2015

its ridiculous that we can not see the the individual values in the game such as AP and EXP when we get kills, do quest, etc. we dont know how we are doing or what gives us the best exp/ap so that we can grow or develop faster. its silly to think that we cant even see what we crit for or even when we crit while we are fighting, i can understand the choice of ZOS not to implement these features initially because they may spam the screen with values or ruin someones experience but i seriously doubt it would be a burden on their coders (or the outsourcing coders) to show certain values the screen that are toggle-able via the options menu.

as of now players on console are at a massive disadvantage without knowledge of our dps and other such things they should be implemented in near updates as part of the games actual features and not as add-ons (since these features should have been implemented anyways)

these features would enhance our gaming experience and create a stonger player base
PS - to anyone who plays PC please dont spam this post with "console sucks" or "should have gotten a PC" i play console for the social aspect

Thalmont · July 2015

Add-ons I don't want. A simple toggleable damage indicated and bar numbers would be greatly appreciated. Also make the bars drain from 1 side instead of both sides, draining from both sides is weird and I don't like it.
Will never happen but I can hope.

slipHAZARD · July 2015

I agree, they need to stop this "immersive" nonsense because clearly it's not working. Focus on making this a solid MMO. Are you going to tick off some of the Elder Scrolls fans? Sure, that was always going to be the case.

Make an MMO in the Elder Scrolls universe. Not a Elder Scrolls game in a MMO universe. Because the 2 naturally don't fit, an Elder Scrolls game is a single player experience, who wants that in an MMO. NO ONE.

It's time to *BLANK* or get off the pot here. Pick a build and go with it. Hybrid builds sucks. Make this game a full fledged Fantasy MMO set in the Elder Scrolls universe.

-Text Chat
-DMG/EXP Numbers
-Auction Houses

Standards and staples of every MMO out there. You're like 90% there. It's crazy when a game that's lets face it, isn't doing all that great, and the developers still think "We know what's best" or "We have a vision". Zipper Interactive did the exact same thing with Socom 4 and where are they now?

People are enjoying your game, but for how long? Listen to your fans, give them the experience that 90% of them are asking for and they will in turn continue playing your game for years and spending money on it. Whether its DLC or Crown purchases.

The_Sadist · July 2015

toad_123 wrote: »

i play console for the social aspect

Which differs from PC how?

This topic has been discussed quite a few times since the console port, and I think the general consensus is addons = good, or at least certain addons potentially becoming optional parts of the UI e.g. seeing exp / AP / damage dealt and received sort of thing.

Amiculi · July 2015

The_Sadist wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

i play console for the social aspect

Which differs from PC how?

This topic has been discussed quite a few times since the console port, and I think the general consensus is addons = good, or at least certain addons potentially becoming optional parts of the UI e.g. seeing exp / AP / damage dealt and received sort of thing.

Maybe his friends play on console?

toad_123 · July 2015

Amiculi wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

i play console for the social aspect

Which differs from PC how?

This topic has been discussed quite a few times since the console port, and I think the general consensus is addons = good, or at least certain addons potentially becoming optional parts of the UI e.g. seeing exp / AP / damage dealt and received sort of thing.

Maybe his friends play on console?

I'm in highschool and as much as I like pc games/gaming the kids who like pc gaming are either socialy challenged or have a vast superiority complex that I can't stand (at least the ones I know)

mtwiggz · July 2015

As a PC player I do not think I could ever move to console. Playing without certain addons would be a complete headache, at least for me. Good luck console players! Unfortunately I don't think your prayers will be answered, at least not by ZoS.

slipHAZARD · July 2015

toad_123 wrote: »

Amiculi wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

i play console for the social aspect

Which differs from PC how?

This topic has been discussed quite a few times since the console port, and I think the general consensus is addons = good, or at least certain addons potentially becoming optional parts of the UI e.g. seeing exp / AP / damage dealt and received sort of thing.

Maybe his friends play on console?

I'm in highschool and as much as I like pc games/gaming the kids who like pc gaming are either socialy challenged or have a vast superiority complex that I can't stand (at least the ones I know)

shhhh one of the Master Race might hear you

mtwiggz · July 2015

slipHAZARD wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

Amiculi wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

i play console for the social aspect

Which differs from PC how?

This topic has been discussed quite a few times since the console port, and I think the general consensus is addons = good, or at least certain addons potentially becoming optional parts of the UI e.g. seeing exp / AP / damage dealt and received sort of thing.

Maybe his friends play on console?

I'm in highschool and as much as I like pc games/gaming the kids who like pc gaming are either socialy challenged or have a vast superiority complex that I can't stand (at least the ones I know)

shhhh one of the Master Race might hear you

We hear everything.

slipHAZARD · July 2015

mtwiggz wrote: »

slipHAZARD wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

Amiculi wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

i play console for the social aspect

Which differs from PC how?

This topic has been discussed quite a few times since the console port, and I think the general consensus is addons = good, or at least certain addons potentially becoming optional parts of the UI e.g. seeing exp / AP / damage dealt and received sort of thing.

Maybe his friends play on console?

I'm in highschool and as much as I like pc games/gaming the kids who like pc gaming are either socialy challenged or have a vast superiority complex that I can't stand (at least the ones I know)

shhhh one of the Master Race might hear you

We hear everything.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · July 2015

I play both PC and PS4 now, I switch between the two every 3 -4 days, Enlightenment is good

, so If I need something tested damage wise I test is on PC, where I can see the numbers and then make the change on the Console.. works for me

The_Sadist · July 2015

toad_123 wrote: »

Amiculi wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

i play console for the social aspect

Which differs from PC how?

This topic has been discussed quite a few times since the console port, and I think the general consensus is addons = good, or at least certain addons potentially becoming optional parts of the UI e.g. seeing exp / AP / damage dealt and received sort of thing.

Maybe his friends play on console?

I'm in highschool and as much as I like pc games/gaming the kids who like pc gaming are either socialy challenged or have a vast superiority complex that I can't stand (at least the ones I know)

Right..

Anyways, hopefully they do implement addon-like UI for the consoles, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

JesterH · July 2015

Yeah would love to see xp nr and HP % etc.

Mitchblue · July 2015

If you don't want add on's, fine, don't use them. But they should be options for all others..

dlepi24 · July 2015

toad_123 wrote: »

its ridiculous that we can not see the the individual values in the game such as AP and EXP when we get kills, do quest, etc. we dont know how we are doing or what gives us the best exp/ap so that we can grow or develop faster. its silly to think that we cant even see what we crit for or even when we crit while we are fighting, i can understand the choice of ZOS not to implement these features initially because they may spam the screen with values or ruin someones experience but i seriously doubt it would be a burden on their coders (or the outsourcing coders) to show certain values the screen that are toggle-able via the options menu.

as of now players on console are at a massive disadvantage without knowledge of our dps and other such things they should be implemented in near updates as part of the games actual features and not as add-ons (since these features should have been implemented anyways)

these features would enhance our gaming experience and create a stonger player base
PS - to anyone who plays PC please dont spam this post with "console sucks" or "should have gotten a PC" i play console for the social aspect

Don't get me wrong, I definitely would prefer having damage indicators and buff/debuff timers, however, I recently completed vDSA a few times the past couple days and it's quite enjoyable. It's a lot harder on console and at first it sucked and felt like it wasn't possible, but now we enjoy the challenge. I really thought the trials and dungeons would be impossible without the addons but it's turning into a more enjoyable and rewarding experience when you start rolling through everything with the challenge. I would still like the option to see it, but everything in the game is possible without addons. If you can't beat something just because you don't have addons then you need to improve your build/skill.

Mitchblue · July 2015

dlepi24 wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

its ridiculous that we can not see the the individual values in the game such as AP and EXP when we get kills, do quest, etc. we dont know how we are doing or what gives us the best exp/ap so that we can grow or develop faster. its silly to think that we cant even see what we crit for or even when we crit while we are fighting, i can understand the choice of ZOS not to implement these features initially because they may spam the screen with values or ruin someones experience but i seriously doubt it would be a burden on their coders (or the outsourcing coders) to show certain values the screen that are toggle-able via the options menu.

as of now players on console are at a massive disadvantage without knowledge of our dps and other such things they should be implemented in near updates as part of the games actual features and not as add-ons (since these features should have been implemented anyways)

these features would enhance our gaming experience and create a stonger player base
PS - to anyone who plays PC please dont spam this post with "console sucks" or "should have gotten a PC" i play console for the social aspect

Don't get me wrong, I definitely would prefer having damage indicators and buff/debuff timers, however, I recently completed vDSA a few times the past couple days and it's quite enjoyable. It's a lot harder on console and at first it sucked and felt like it wasn't possible, but now we enjoy the challenge. I really thought the trials and dungeons would be impossible without the addons but it's turning into a more enjoyable and rewarding experience when you start rolling through everything with the challenge. I would still like the option to see it, but everything in the game is possible without addons. If you can't beat something just because you don't have addons then you need to improve your build/skill.

Of course it possible. Just not as fun IMO. And there's more than just the tradition add on's, so many fantastic ones. This is just my opinion, I want them because it's MORE FUN.

toad_123 · July 2015

dlepi24 wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

its ridiculous that we can not see the the individual values in the game such as AP and EXP when we get kills, do quest, etc. we dont know how we are doing or what gives us the best exp/ap so that we can grow or develop faster. its silly to think that we cant even see what we crit for or even when we crit while we are fighting, i can understand the choice of ZOS not to implement these features initially because they may spam the screen with values or ruin someones experience but i seriously doubt it would be a burden on their coders (or the outsourcing coders) to show certain values the screen that are toggle-able via the options menu.

as of now players on console are at a massive disadvantage without knowledge of our dps and other such things they should be implemented in near updates as part of the games actual features and not as add-ons (since these features should have been implemented anyways)

these features would enhance our gaming experience and create a stonger player base
PS - to anyone who plays PC please dont spam this post with "console sucks" or "should have gotten a PC" i play console for the social aspect

Don't get me wrong, I definitely would prefer having damage indicators and buff/debuff timers, however, I recently completed vDSA a few times the past couple days and it's quite enjoyable. It's a lot harder on console and at first it sucked and felt like it wasn't possible, but now we enjoy the challenge. I really thought the trials and dungeons would be impossible without the addons but it's turning into a more enjoyable and rewarding experience when you start rolling through everything with the challenge. I would still like the option to see it, but everything in the game is possible without addons. If you can't beat something just because you don't have addons then you need to improve your build/skill.

But you are probably a pc port meaning you have the tools to optimize your character before console... Also pc vet 14 characters have that champ point boost (not complaining about it though) we will be there some day

Vorpal_Spork · July 2015

toad_123 wrote: »

i can understand the choice of ZOS not to implement these features initially because they may spam the screen with values or ruin someones experience

How is having vitally important information going to ruin anyone's experience?

dlepi24 wrote: »

If you can't beat something just because you don't have addons then you need to improve your build/skill.

This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. Tell me Einstein how is one supposed to improve their build when they can't tell how much damage they're doing, how much damage they're mitigating, how much they're healing for, etcetera? If I change my build how am I even supposed to know whether it's better or worse than it was before? The UI (or rather the near total lack of it) makes improving impossible.

Arthur_Spoonfondle · July 2015

slipHAZARD wrote: »

I agree, they need to stop this "immersive" nonsense because clearly it's not working. Focus on making this a solid MMO. Are you going to tick off some of the Elder Scrolls fans? Sure, that was always going to be the case.

Make an MMO in the Elder Scrolls universe. Not a Elder Scrolls game in a MMO universe. Because the 2 naturally don't fit, an Elder Scrolls game is a single player experience, who wants that in an MMO. NO ONE.

It's time to *BLANK* or get off the pot here. Pick a build and go with it. Hybrid builds sucks. Make this game a full fledged Fantasy MMO set in the Elder Scrolls universe.

-Text Chat
-DMG/EXP Numbers
-Auction Houses

Standards and staples of every MMO out there. You're like 90% there. It's crazy when a game that's lets face it, isn't doing all that great, and the developers still think "We know what's best" or "We have a vision". Zipper Interactive did the exact same thing with Socom 4 and where are they now?

People are enjoying your game, but for how long? Listen to your fans, give them the experience that 90% of them are asking for and they will in turn continue playing your game for years and spending money on it. Whether its DLC or Crown purchases.

Finally ruin the game in one easy step.

If you want to play a WoW style game play WoW.

Bromburak · July 2015

The_Sadist wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

i play console for the social aspect

Which differs from PC how?

Big difference.

Ever seen people sitting beside you , starring at a game while playing at PC? (Funny imagination though.) Console is not all about ESO, I am a PC player but i understand the social point when friends or family share console experience.

This barely happens with a PC.

BlackEar · July 2015

I would love to have voice chat implementation on the PC, but of course we should be able to toggle it on and off.

Vorpal_Spork · July 2015

BlackEar wrote: »

I would love to have voice chat implementation on the PC, but of course we should be able to toggle it on and off.

You already have that. It's called Teamspeak.

Gyudan · July 2015

toad_123 wrote: »

I'm in highschool and as much as I like pc games/gaming the kids who like pc gaming are either socialy challenged or have a vast superiority complex that I can't stand (at least the ones I know)

The Elder Scrolls universe may be too mature for you. Some people were already playing these games when you were still using a diaper.

FYI, ESO:TU has an ESRB Mature and PEGI 18+ rating.

TheEmoVampire · July 2015

Consoles can't download the add ons there for they can't get them. Also most of the add ons are like Open GL and Direct X based like .exe files on windows, yes an Xbox One could run them but PS 4 CANT and why would you want to clutter your screen any how? Im on PC and don't even use them! No point

Danikat · July 2015

I think adding it as an option that's off by default would be a good compromise.

That's pretty much the set-up I have. I play on PC and installed the Azurah addon to allow me to move the default UI around, but because I actually like the minimalist UI and rarely pay attention to the numbers in games that do show them I keep the option to display numerical values for my health, stamina, magicka and experience and my targets health turned off. Most of the time I forget they're even there (unless I go into the menu for the addon).

slipHAZARD · July 2015

Arthur_Spoonfondle wrote: »

slipHAZARD wrote: »

I agree, they need to stop this "immersive" nonsense because clearly it's not working. Focus on making this a solid MMO. Are you going to tick off some of the Elder Scrolls fans? Sure, that was always going to be the case.

Make an MMO in the Elder Scrolls universe. Not a Elder Scrolls game in a MMO universe. Because the 2 naturally don't fit, an Elder Scrolls game is a single player experience, who wants that in an MMO. NO ONE.

It's time to *BLANK* or get off the pot here. Pick a build and go with it. Hybrid builds sucks. Make this game a full fledged Fantasy MMO set in the Elder Scrolls universe.

-Text Chat
-DMG/EXP Numbers
-Auction Houses

Standards and staples of every MMO out there. You're like 90% there. It's crazy when a game that's lets face it, isn't doing all that great, and the developers still think "We know what's best" or "We have a vision". Zipper Interactive did the exact same thing with Socom 4 and where are they now?

People are enjoying your game, but for how long? Listen to your fans, give them the experience that 90% of them are asking for and they will in turn continue playing your game for years and spending money on it. Whether its DLC or Crown purchases.

Finally ruin the game in one easy step.

If you want to play a WoW style game play WoW.

If by "WoW style game" you mean a functioning MMO. Then maybe you're right. But I'd prefer to play one set in the Elder Scrolls universe. And if simply adding text chat and dmg numbers makes it a WoW style game, then damn there are A LOT of WoW style games out there.

slipHAZARD · July 2015

Gyudan wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

I'm in highschool and as much as I like pc games/gaming the kids who like pc gaming are either socialy challenged or have a vast superiority complex that I can't stand (at least the ones I know)

The Elder Scrolls universe may be too mature for you. Some people were already playing these games when you were still using a diaper.

FYI, ESO:TU has an ESRB Mature and PEGI 18+ rating.

Good contribution dude

JD2013 · July 2015

toad_123 wrote: »

Amiculi wrote: »

The_Sadist wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

i play console for the social aspect

Which differs from PC how?

This topic has been discussed quite a few times since the console port, and I think the general consensus is addons = good, or at least certain addons potentially becoming optional parts of the UI e.g. seeing exp / AP / damage dealt and received sort of thing.

Maybe his friends play on console?

I'm in highschool and as much as I like pc games/gaming the kids who like pc gaming are either socialy challenged or have a vast superiority complex that I can't stand (at least the ones I know)

I play on PC. Not a kid. Good social life. Work hard. Should I cancel these things to fit in with a stereotype?

toad_123 · July 2015

Gyudan wrote: »

toad_123 wrote: »

I'm in highschool and as much as I like pc games/gaming the kids who like pc gaming are either socialy challenged or have a vast superiority complex that I can't stand (at least the ones I know)

The Elder Scrolls universe may be too mature for you. Some people were already playing these games when you were still using a diaper.

FYI, ESO:TU has an ESRB Mature and PEGI 18+ rating.

i am 18 though... but great post none the less

THEDKEXPERIENCE · July 2015

Need: something necessary for survival
Want: something unnecessary that you desire

You do not need add ons. You want them. With that said, I know exactly how much damage I do. When I hit you with my fire ball it does about 2000 damage. When I hit you with 6 of them you're dead. That's all you really need to know. Also, this is how I heal ... if my friend is on fire I heal him. If I just got hit with a meteor I hit X and I heal myself. I know I can do this because I have a health bar that is no longer full.

Everything you NEED is already there. What I don't WANT is for a bunch of people to get 1000 times better at this game than their talent allows because of add ons. Lastly, does everyone realize that asking for add ons is no different than begging everyone to have the same build? Take a few lumps and get better via practice.

toad_123 · July 2015

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Need: something necessary for survival
Want: something unnecessary that you desire

You do not need add ons. You want them. With that said, I know exactly how much damage I do. When I hit you with my fire ball it does about 2000 damage. When I hit you with 6 of them you're dead. That's all you really need to know. Also, this is how I heal ... if my friend is on fire I heal him. If I just got hit with a meteor I hit X and I heal myself. I know I can do this because I have a health bar that is no longer full.

Everything you NEED is already there. What I don't WANT is for a bunch of people to get 1000 times better at this game than their talent allows because of add ons. Lastly, does everyone realize that asking for add ons is no different than begging everyone to have the same build? Take a few lumps and get better via practice.

you clearly havent tried vet dungeons or vdsa