Did you know - ESO+ members only RENT DLC and lose it when go non-ESO+?

reften · July 2015

So I just figured this out today, and it's not sitting well with me, and based on responses to another thread, this is not common knowledge...or maybe it is and I just don't read notes close enough. Anyway here goes.

Did you know that, if you're an ESO+ members, and DLC comes out, you get the DLC for free, but if you ever cancel your ESO+ members, you LOSE the DLC and have to buy it?

Cause I didn't, and this could impact my decisions moving forward.

JD2013 · July 2015

Got a ton of crowns from ESO plus. TBH I forgot that I had it coming out of my account

Will buy it from that and buy crowns as necessary in the future for new zones.

Reilech · July 2015

Yes, thats the description for ESO+ since start of ESO+.

You do get crowns for your membership. One could use them to buy the DLCs.

Elsonso · July 2015

I am a current ESO Plus subscriber (PC) and I know this.

Good thread, though. I am certain others have missed it.

Psychobunni · July 2015

Yes. But so "many" wanted this game to be non-sub, so now you have it. Rent to play or buy it. Welcome to Tamriel Limited

UrQuan · July 2015

Old news is old. Yes, this has been explicitly spelled out ever since it was first announced that ESO would be going B2P. There have been tons and tons of threads about it too...

lathbury · July 2015

yep I think most people do

reften · July 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Old news is old. Yes, this has been explicitly spelled out ever since it was first announced that ESO would be going B2P. There have been tons and tons of threads about it too...

Link one specific to this topic please.

Nestor · July 2015

It was pretty clearly stated since ESO Plus was announced that it would be this way. It is not a surprise.

What will be interesting to see is what the price for the DLCs will be, then we can figure out if the ESO plus is worth it or not from that aspect.

GreySix · July 2015

It's the best deal available for folks who have money to throw away. Wife and I remained subscribed until last month, but we decided to spend that $30 a month elsewhere.

Divinius · July 2015

JD2013 wrote: »

Got a ton of crowns from ESO plus. TBH I forgot that I had it coming out of my account

Will buy it from that and buy crowns as necessary in the future for new zones.

Reilech wrote: »

Yes, thats the description for ESO+ since start of ESO+.

You do get crowns for your membership. One could use them to buy the DLCs.

OK, I have a question...

Everyone I've seen seems to be assuming that we will be able to buy the DLC with Crowns. Has this actually been confirmed anywhere? Are we certain that the DLC won't be made solely available via the website, where you'd be forced to pay actual cash, and couldn't use Crowns?

If someone could provide a link to a source that definitively states that the DLC will indeed be purchasable with Crowns, I'd very much appreciate it.

Athas24 · July 2015

Somehow, I am constantly surprised by how little people actually READ ...like anything. It's pretty plainly stated that you only have the content while subscribed....unless you buy it with crowns. It's still largely irrelevant anyway since there hasn't been any content in forever...

PBpsy · July 2015

reften wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Old news is old. Yes, this has been explicitly spelled out ever since it was first announced that ESO would be going B2P. There have been tons and tons of threads about it too...

Link one specific to this topic please.

Not a thread but the official page.

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2015/01/21/your-guide-to-eso-plus-premium-membership?gclid=CPGexfWIvcYCFUcXHwodufYKfA

"While you’re a member, you’ll enjoy faster progression thanks to the helpful buffs to XP, gold, and crafting, and you’ll be able to access any DLC game pack that’s available. If your membership ends, you’ll still be able to play ESO (and keep any items and rewards you earned playing within DLC), but you won’t be able to access DLC game pack content that you haven’t purchased separately."

They have been very open about this.

Banky71 · July 2015

I don't think you really exposed a huge secret or anything. They pretty much make this very clear.

driosketch · July 2015

Yes, I knew already.

But given how many times I seen this phrasing:

reften wrote: »

if you're an ESO+ members, and DLC comes out, you get the DLC for free,

Without the added part, I'm not surprised some players are confused.

Pallmor · July 2015

reften wrote: »

So I just figured this out today, and it's not sitting well with me, and based on responses to another thread, this is not common knowledge...or maybe it is and I just don't read notes close enough. Anyway here goes.

Did you know that, if you're an ESO+ members, and DLC comes out, you get the DLC for free, but if you ever cancel your ESO+ members, you LOSE the DLC and have to buy it?

Cause I didn't, and this could impact my decisions moving forward.

If they didn't do it that way, anyone could just sub for a month and get every piece of DLC for free in perpetuity.

BigM · July 2015

Divinius wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Got a ton of crowns from ESO plus. TBH I forgot that I had it coming out of my account

Will buy it from that and buy crowns as necessary in the future for new zones.

Reilech wrote: »

Yes, thats the description for ESO+ since start of ESO+.

You do get crowns for your membership. One could use them to buy the DLCs.

OK, I have a question...

Everyone I've seen seems to be assuming that we will be able to buy the DLC with Crowns. Has this actually been confirmed anywhere? Are we certain that the DLC won't be made solely available via the website, where you'd be forced to pay actual cash, and couldn't use Crowns?

If someone could provide a link to a source that definitively states that the DLC will indeed be purchasable with Crowns, I'd very much appreciate it.

They said it a long time ago it would be in crown store, but you know the way they have been in the last 8 months it wouldn't shock me if they do make it like expansions and put it up on the web site.

jircris11 · July 2015

reften wrote: »

So I just figured this out today, and it's not sitting well with me, and based on responses to another thread, this is not common knowledge...or maybe it is and I just don't read notes close enough. Anyway here goes.

Did you know that, if you're an ESO+ members, and DLC comes out, you get the DLC for free, but if you ever cancel your ESO+ members, you LOSE the DLC and have to buy it?

Cause I didn't, and this could impact my decisions moving forward.

SWTOR does the same thing. Subs get the xpacks free but if we go Freemium then we need to buy it.

MissBizz · July 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

reften wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Old news is old. Yes, this has been explicitly spelled out ever since it was first announced that ESO would be going B2P. There have been tons and tons of threads about it too...

Link one specific to this topic please.

Not a thread but the official page.

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2015/01/21/your-guide-to-eso-plus-premium-membership?gclid=CPGexfWIvcYCFUcXHwodufYKfA

"While you’re a member, you’ll enjoy faster progression thanks to the helpful buffs to XP, gold, and crafting, and you’ll be able to access any DLC game pack that’s available. If your membership ends, you’ll still be able to play ESO (and keep any items and rewards you earned playing within DLC), but you won’t be able to access DLC game pack content that you haven’t purchased separately."

They have been very open about this.

Here's a few threads...

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/171590/eso-plus-and-dlc-question

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/147370/an-issue-with-eso-plus-that-id-like-feedback-on

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/152772/a-question-about-eso-plus-and-dlc

Anyways, to the OP. I was well aware that's how it works.. wouldn't make sense otherwise. Imagine DLC costs $20, why would someone buy it if they could sub for one month for $15, cancel the sub, and continue to own the $20 DLC? You're paying to rent the DLC, and hey, you get crowns and bonuses in game too.

UTG_Zilla · July 2015

Don't see why this needs to be a topic as it says it in the description of Eso+. Maybe try reading next time you subscribe to something. Just a logical thought

reften · July 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

reften wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Old news is old. Yes, this has been explicitly spelled out ever since it was first announced that ESO would be going B2P. There have been tons and tons of threads about it too...

Link one specific to this topic please.

Not a thread but the official page.

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2015/01/21/your-guide-to-eso-plus-premium-membership?gclid=CPGexfWIvcYCFUcXHwodufYKfA

"While you’re a member, you’ll enjoy faster progression thanks to the helpful buffs to XP, gold, and crafting, and you’ll be able to access any DLC game pack that’s available. If your membership ends, you’ll still be able to play ESO (and keep any items and rewards you earned playing within DLC), but you won’t be able to access DLC game pack content that you haven’t purchased separately."

They have been very open about this.

You said there were tons and tons of threads about this...that isn't a thread. IMO, that is still unclear. If I'm ESO+, and DLC comes out, IMO, I HAVE paid for it.

Dagoth_Rac · July 2015

Did you know that the subscription used to be mandatory and you had to pay for it? And if you dropped your subscription, you lost access to everything, not just DLC?

Did you know that if you drop your subscription to HBO, you cannot watch Game of Thrones until you resubscribe? But that if you buy the Game of Thrones seasons on DVD, you can watch them whenever you want, even if you drop your subscription to HBO?

Did you know that if you drop your subscription to Apple Music, you cannot stream music until you resubscribe? But that if you bought the mp3 from iTunes, you can listen to the song anytime you want, subscribed or not?

It is almost like ESO+ works exactly like every other digital subscription!

PBpsy · July 2015

reften wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

reften wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Old news is old. Yes, this has been explicitly spelled out ever since it was first announced that ESO would be going B2P. There have been tons and tons of threads about it too...

Link one specific to this topic please.

Not a thread but the official page.

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2015/01/21/your-guide-to-eso-plus-premium-membership?gclid=CPGexfWIvcYCFUcXHwodufYKfA

"While you’re a member, you’ll enjoy faster progression thanks to the helpful buffs to XP, gold, and crafting, and you’ll be able to access any DLC game pack that’s available. If your membership ends, you’ll still be able to play ESO (and keep any items and rewards you earned playing within DLC), but you won’t be able to access DLC game pack content that you haven’t purchased separately."

They have been very open about this.

You said there were tons and tons of threads about this...that isn't a thread. IMO, that is still unclear. If I'm ESO+, and DLC comes out, IMO, I HAVE paid for it.

Nope . I did not. That was my first post.

But there were indeed quite a few threads talking about it when this was announced.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/147235/eso-plus-probably-not-worth-it

GreySix · July 2015

reften wrote: »

You said there were tons and tons of threads about this...that isn't a thread. IMO, that is still unclear. If I'm ESO+, and DLC comes out, IMO, I HAVE paid for it.

You'd think so, but probably the reason they don't let you keep it is because they suspect a lot of folks would subscribe the month DLC hit, only to then immediately unsubscribe.

UTG_Zilla · July 2015

reften wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

reften wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Old news is old. Yes, this has been explicitly spelled out ever since it was first announced that ESO would be going B2P. There have been tons and tons of threads about it too...

Link one specific to this topic please.

Not a thread but the official page.

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2015/01/21/your-guide-to-eso-plus-premium-membership?gclid=CPGexfWIvcYCFUcXHwodufYKfA

"While you’re a member, you’ll enjoy faster progression thanks to the helpful buffs to XP, gold, and crafting, and you’ll be able to access any DLC game pack that’s available. If your membership ends, you’ll still be able to play ESO (and keep any items and rewards you earned playing within DLC), but you won’t be able to access DLC game pack content that you haven’t purchased separately."

They have been very open about this.

You said there were tons and tons of threads about this...that isn't a thread. IMO, that is still unclear. If I'm ESO+, and DLC comes out, IMO, I HAVE paid for it.

I'm sorry that you're new to dlc. But every dlc that elder scrolls has had in the past has cost something, even after you bought the game. If you bought skyrim, you didn't have the dlc's you'd have to buy them. Like always. If you bought fall out but wanted dlc's, you paid for them. Like I said, sorry you're new to dlc's but to everyone else this isn't new.

JD2013 · July 2015

GreySix wrote: »

reften wrote: »

You said there were tons and tons of threads about this...that isn't a thread. IMO, that is still unclear. If I'm ESO+, and DLC comes out, IMO, I HAVE paid for it.

You'd think so, but probably the reason they don't let you keep it is because they suspect a lot of folks would subscribe the month DLC hit, only to then immediately unsubscribe.

Definitely this.

Which makes me think DLC zones are going to be around $25, obviously more than the cost of a sub to buy outright. If they were going to cost less than the sub, I reckon this may not be so enforced.

But it is a logical reason. No exploiting the system and all that.

wrlifeboil · July 2015

I think the only way ZOS will change their policy is if there are insufficient numbers of ESO+ members. Given the addition of console players (most who aren't familiar with the concept of a rented DLC), I doubt that ZOS will change its policy until after the DLC is released.

UrQuan · July 2015

reften wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Old news is old. Yes, this has been explicitly spelled out ever since it was first announced that ESO would be going B2P. There have been tons and tons of threads about it too...

Link one specific to this topic please.

Sure, here are a few where it's specifically discussed that the DLC access is only while subscribed:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/166516/eso-worth-it-or-not
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/147235/eso-plus-probably-not-worth-it
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/174835/eso-plus-dlc-question
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/147370/an-issue-with-eso-plus-that-id-like-feedback-on
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159769/eso-plus-membership-and-dlc-my-pow
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/157633/they-dont-really-want-us-on-eso-plus

There are plenty more, that was just the first few that a quick search showed up that actually talked about it. I know I've brought it up personally in many different threads about ESO Plus.

Banky71 · July 2015

GreySix wrote: »

reften wrote: »

You said there were tons and tons of threads about this...that isn't a thread. IMO, that is still unclear. If I'm ESO+, and DLC comes out, IMO, I HAVE paid for it.

You'd think so, but probably the reason they don't let you keep it is because they suspect a lot of folks would subscribe the month DLC hit, only to then immediately unsubscribe.

I vote for this! lol

Defilted · July 2015

I am well aware of this and do not care.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · July 2015

This is like a lot of new mmo's i alpha test a lot, this is going to happen more and more because people dont want to pay for a sub, this happens when u have a combo a f2p and sub