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Havoc small man vs AD zerg

  • Soulac
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    12 man but still blobbing... hate to take away from the victory but its not the numbers, its the mechanics behind blobs that are the issue.

    all that AOE is seriously bad for the Server. it might not be as bad with only 12, but as long as it just scales up the more you have, it will continue to be a problem.

    If you want to take down bigger groups you kinda need to blob up and AoE burst your enemys.
    In case you give the larger group any chance to stand up, they probably have more healers than DDs on your side, also barrier spam is real.
    Vis wrote: »
    Davenaro wrote: »
    Iyas wrote: »
    So 12 man are small scale? w0000t

    Small is relative term. You probably consider small, what? 1-4 man? Ok, then how many people are you fighting with that many? Definitely not 25-30, not with the changes they made this update. In terms of the numbers we were fighting, it was small.

    Let me help out with future definitions:

    1 = Solo
    2 = Duo
    3-5 = Small Group
    6-11 = Group
    12-18 = Raid
    18+ = Zerg
    40+ = EP

    Hope this helps.

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  • Akinos
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    qsnoopyjr wrote: »
    Nothing really unique about this video.
    Killing a bunch of AD is nothing special too.
    The whole music on top of the game ruins it.
    No spectacular play.
    My computer started to get laggy watching it too.

    Should check out this video, a lot better. Less laggy than that video too.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKhJA6LuPsw
    Much more intense PvP video, best Elder Scrolls Online PvP video I've seen.

    While we're on the hijacking video threads thing, this video comes to mind when I think of NPK and DC :)
    https://youtu.be/o8hbfcmC9js

    Feeling left out AD? Don't worry, I got something for you guys too:
    https://youtu.be/KekBUrpZWeU


    Also while many people attempt to make up their own definition of what a zerg is, I'll just go ahead and leave some links to what the term "zerging" really means and has meant since the first time that word was used in a MMO setting.

    urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zerg
    techopedia.com/definition/27053/zerg
    internetslang.com/ZERG-meaning-definition.asp

    My apologies to Havoc also, for further derailing your thread. Epic video though :)

    Edited by Akinos on July 1, 2015 8:27PM
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  • TheBucket
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    Vis wrote: »
    Davenaro wrote: »
    Iyas wrote: »
    So 12 man are small scale? w0000t

    Small is relative term. You probably consider small, what? 1-4 man? Ok, then how many people are you fighting with that many? Definitely not 25-30, not with the changes they made this update. In terms of the numbers we were fighting, it was small.

    Let me help out with future definitions:

    1 = Solo
    2 = Duo
    3-5 = Small Group
    6-11 = Group
    12-18 = Raid
    18+ = Zerg

    Hope this helps.

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  • Vis
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    Manoekin wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Davenaro wrote: »
    Iyas wrote: »
    So 12 man are small scale? w0000t

    Small is relative term. You probably consider small, what? 1-4 man? Ok, then how many people are you fighting with that many? Definitely not 25-30, not with the changes they made this update. In terms of the numbers we were fighting, it was small.

    Let me help out with future definitions:

    1 = Solo
    2 = Duo
    3-5 = Small Group
    6-11 = Group
    12-18 = Raid
    18+ = Zerg

    Hope this helps.
    We might have to go back to grade school for you though so that you can learn the difference.

    Your grade school formally taught you video game terminology?

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  • k2blader
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    Vis wrote: »

    Let me help out with future definitions:

    1 = Solo
    2 = Duo
    3-5 = Small Group
    6-11 = Group
    12-18 = Raid
    18+ = Zerg

    Hope this helps.

    TY. No wonder it's so hard to find groups-- I've been asking all wrong.

    Me: lfg
    Rest of AD: (counting) "Well, shoots, she wants a group.. oh well."

    Me: LFG

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  • Manoekin
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    Vis wrote: »
    Manoekin wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Davenaro wrote: »
    Iyas wrote: »
    So 12 man are small scale? w0000t

    Small is relative term. You probably consider small, what? 1-4 man? Ok, then how many people are you fighting with that many? Definitely not 25-30, not with the changes they made this update. In terms of the numbers we were fighting, it was small.

    Let me help out with future definitions:

    1 = Solo
    2 = Duo
    3-5 = Small Group
    6-11 = Group
    12-18 = Raid
    18+ = Zerg

    Hope this helps.
    We might have to go back to grade school for you though so that you can learn the difference.

    Your grade school formally taught you video game terminology?

    No, but it looks like what I said is actually beyond your comprehension.
  • qsnoopyjr
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    Akinos wrote: »
    qsnoopyjr wrote: »
    Nothing really unique about this video.
    Killing a bunch of AD is nothing special too.
    The whole music on top of the game ruins it.
    No spectacular play.
    My computer started to get laggy watching it too.

    Should check out this video, a lot better. Less laggy than that video too.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKhJA6LuPsw
    Much more intense PvP video, best Elder Scrolls Online PvP video I've seen.

    While we're on the hijacking video threads thing, this video comes to mind when I think of NPK and DC :)
    https://youtu.be/o8hbfcmC9js

    Feeling left out AD? Don't worry, I got something for you guys too:
    https://youtu.be/KekBUrpZWeU


    Also while many people attempt to make up their own definition of what a zerg is, I'll just go ahead and leave some links to what the term "zerging" really means and has meant since the first time that word was used in a MMO setting.

    urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zerg
    techopedia.com/definition/27053/zerg
    internetslang.com/ZERG-meaning-definition.asp

    My apologies to Havoc also, for further derailing your thread. Epic video though :)

    Thing is, the OP video and your videos..

    Are just lame.
    Nothing but background music and people running around with stuff scrolling on your screen.
    Boring.

    Now the video I showed. You can hear whats going on, you can hear the teamspeak, you see organization happening, you see the fights... Not a bunch of stuff scrolling and background music like your lame video and the OP lame video.

    The video I posted, is like a story, you see beginning, you get a feeling about whats come.. rising action, you get to climax of all those EP going down. falling action of all EP dead. end of story.

    OP video and your video, just nothing but background music, cant hear anything of the game itself, no point in watching them its just a bunch of nobodies running around forever and ever... Boring.
    Edited by qsnoopyjr on July 2, 2015 1:55AM
  • Taleof2Cities
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    I love and dislike you guys so much, thoroughly enjoyed watching you at work!

    ^ This. ^

    Great vid.

    See you in Cyrodiil.
  • sirston
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    qsnoopyjr wrote: »
    Akinos wrote: »
    qsnoopyjr wrote: »
    Nothing really unique about this video.
    Killing a bunch of AD is nothing special too.
    The whole music on top of the game ruins it.
    No spectacular play.
    My computer started to get laggy watching it too.

    Should check out this video, a lot better. Less laggy than that video too.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKhJA6LuPsw
    Much more intense PvP video, best Elder Scrolls Online PvP video I've seen.

    While we're on the hijacking video threads thing, this video comes to mind when I think of NPK and DC :)
    https://youtu.be/o8hbfcmC9js

    Feeling left out AD? Don't worry, I got something for you guys too:
    https://youtu.be/KekBUrpZWeU


    Also while many people attempt to make up their own definition of what a zerg is, I'll just go ahead and leave some links to what the term "zerging" really means and has meant since the first time that word was used in a MMO setting.

    urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zerg
    techopedia.com/definition/27053/zerg
    internetslang.com/ZERG-meaning-definition.asp

    My apologies to Havoc also, for further derailing your thread. Epic video though :)

    Thing is, the OP video and your videos..

    Are just lame.
    Nothing but background music and people running around with stuff scrolling on your screen.
    Boring.

    Now the video I showed. You can hear whats going on, you can hear the teamspeak, you see organization happening, you see the fights... Not a bunch of stuff scrolling and background music like your lame video and the OP lame video.

    The video I posted, is like a story, you see beginning, you get a feeling about whats come.. rising action, you get to climax of all those EP going down. falling action of all EP dead. end of story.

    OP video and your video, just nothing but background music, cant hear anything of the game itself, no point in watching them its just a bunch of nobodies running around forever and ever... Boring.

    not to sound to a drag but I really don't want to hear in a video with there team speak with that one person screaming unpleasant phrase's every two seconds while they run over squirrels........if you have slight music with some teamspeaka talking then it would be fine....
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  • Earendal
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    Manoekin wrote: »
    Where's my lol button?

    I forgot you were the one who defined what everything was. :p

    You're only zerging if you're running keep to keep with all the pugs (adding: there are other circumstances which constitute zerging, but i'd say this is most common). "Zerg" and "zerging" do not describe a group, but the actions that group takes. We might have to go back to grade school for you though so that you can learn the difference. Otherwise you're just a big group/raid or a group. There is no such thing as a small group, there's only a group. Admitting that you define it based on your own perspective and preference tells me I can do the same and your definitions do not mean ***.

    #rekt
    qsnoopyjr wrote: »

    Thing is, the OP video and your videos..

    Are just lame.
    Nothing but background music and people running around with stuff scrolling on your screen.
    Boring.

    Now the video I showed. You can hear whats going on, you can hear the teamspeak, you see organization happening, you see the fights... Not a bunch of stuff scrolling and background music like your lame video and the OP lame video.

    The video I posted, is like a story, you see beginning, you get a feeling about whats come.. rising action, you get to climax of all those EP going down. falling action of all EP dead. end of story.

    OP video and your video, just nothing but background music, cant hear anything of the game itself, no point in watching them its just a bunch of nobodies running around forever and ever... Boring.

    If we included audio in our videos people would be able to confirm Anon is actually a robot, and that rhm actually really is Tom Hanks.
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  • DezIsDead
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    Velukodi wrote: »
    In this clip you can see our 11-12 man group take on an AD zerg, through the HD quality it is easy to see that we accomplished this without any help of others.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuDtld_mU4Q

    On the real, havoc is certainly one of the best groups left in cyrodill. I hardly ever see them with more than 16ish, the issue is pugs and other groups following them creating a Zerg. What I want to see is a 3 way fight between the old ap making machine alacrity, havoc, and No mercy. That would be an awesome video. Anyway that was off topic, nice vid man, I like watching 12 man group play and 8ish group play. When you get over 16 it just kinda isn't as exciting to watch.
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  • Lava_Croft
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    Vis wrote: »
    Davenaro wrote: »
    Iyas wrote: »
    So 12 man are small scale? w0000t

    Small is relative term. You probably consider small, what? 1-4 man? Ok, then how many people are you fighting with that many? Definitely not 25-30, not with the changes they made this update. In terms of the numbers we were fighting, it was small.

    Let me help out with future definitions:

    1 = Solo
    2 = Duo
    3-5 = Small Group
    6-11 = Group
    12-18 = Raid
    18+ = Zerg

    Hope this helps.
    So what you are basically saying is that ESO is designed for zerging.

    This makes all the complaining about zergs even sillier than it already is.
  • Draxys
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    lol @ semantics and relative definitions of group size
    2013

    rip decibel
  • Lisbette
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    lolbillyray.jpg
    Edited by Lisbette on July 5, 2015 8:41PM
  • rfennell_ESO
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    Velukodi wrote: »
    In this clip you can see our 11-12 man group take on an AD zerg, through the HD quality it is easy to see that we accomplished this without any help of others.

    In this clip you can see our 11-12 man group with an average alliance rank of 40 take on an AD zerg that has no vigors, is all low alliance rank and probably has 1 healer. Through the HD quality it is easy to see that we looked hard for some pugs assaulting a keep by server hopping and fortunately our support gankers from DC and EP don't show up much in the video.

    Fixed.

  • Satiar
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    Velukodi wrote: »
    In this clip you can see our 11-12 man group take on an AD zerg, through the HD quality it is easy to see that we accomplished this without any help of others.

    In this clip you can see our 11-12 man group with an average alliance rank of 40 take on an AD zerg that has no vigors, is all low alliance rank and probably has 1 healer. Through the HD quality it is easy to see that we looked hard for some pugs assaulting a keep by server hopping and fortunately our support gankers from DC and EP don't show up much in the video.

    Fixed.

    So havoc is at fault for having good group comp and high ranks? Geez, Havoc hate specs are so strong these days.
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  • reften
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    so much fun fighting you guys...kudos.
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  • Sanct16
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    Velukodi wrote: »
    In this clip you can see our 11-12 man group take on an AD zerg, through the HD quality it is easy to see that we accomplished this without any help of others.

    In this clip you can see our 11-12 man group with an average alliance rank of 40 take on an AD zerg that has no vigors, is all low alliance rank and probably has 1 healer. Through the HD quality it is easy to see that we looked hard for some pugs assaulting a keep by server hopping and fortunately our support gankers from DC and EP don't show up much in the video.

    Fixed.
    lol I assume they owned you hard based on how butthurt you seem.
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