Class Change/ Race Change

iiKiiNG522 · June 2015

I'm not one to support micro-dlc but I feel that either the xp rate on this game should either be raised, or they could add a class/race switch. I am a dragon knight but I want to be able to try the other classes without out grinding for like a week and a half straight. Let me know what you guys think

AngryNord · June 2015

Seriously? If you do every quest in a zone you run the risk, at least in the level 5-15 and 15-25 zones, to be so overleveled towards the end, that you won't get any XP... If anything this game needs _slower_ levelling.

Platorian · June 2015

Personally don't see an issue with the XP, I'm at level 27 and still feel like levellng is easy and fast, especially when your just knocking down quest after quest.

Junglejim82 · June 2015

I'm all for it was just discussing it last night. It's not an alt friendly game unless your a jobless bum with time to kill . Leveling process drags far too long to get to endgame although if there are no raids in the traditional sense not sure what the end game is here . I'd like to try all the classes it's the only way to fully understand what's going on in pvp. I wanna be familiar with allthe powers strengths and weaknesses but will never happen without a respec token . They'd sell tons of em. Q all the people telling g us not to be lazy etc etc newsflash it's a game not a job . Off it'll bring claims of fotm nubs etc but it'd be a great addition

bertenburnyb16_ESO · June 2015

want to get to end lvl faster, then complains theres nothing to do at endgame
its the journey, not the destination kids

Junkogen · June 2015

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

want to get to end lvl faster, then complains theres nothing to do at endgame
its the journey, not the destination kids

Once you've done all the quests, I'm sorry, but it does become about the destination. Then it's just about leveling an alt or rerolling to a race that better fits your playstyle after ZOS changes game mechanics or nerfs your build into Oblivion. It's actually as much of a deterrent to playing as no end game. It just becomes a pain in the butt.

Junkogen · June 2015

iiKiiNG522 wrote: »

I'm not one to support micro-dlc but I feel that either the xp rate on this game should either be raised, or they could add a class/race switch. I am a dragon knight but I want to be able to try the other classes without out grinding for like a week and a half straight. Let me know what you guys think

We can keep asking for race and class change, but ZOS seems reluctant to do it. They're going to "tweak" the racials of Nords, Khajiit, Orcs, and Argonians with the release of Imperial City. Tweaking sounds like they're just going to adjust some percentages here and there, which is a start, I guess. Argonian racials are just soooo bad now without soft caps and after they killed the NB synergy.

notimetocare · June 2015

No. Class change is a monstrously stupid idea. It is asking for constant fotm rerolling.

Junkogen · June 2015

notimetocare wrote: »

No. Class change is a monstrously stupid idea. It is asking for constant fotm rerolling.

I understand your concern. However, maybe there wouldn't be so much FOTM if they spent some time balancing stuff. Class change I'm more on the fence about, but race change is a must, IMO.

TheShadowScout · June 2015

Pffftttt... The levelling is just right for the content. If you play through all the quests, you'll level just a bit above the quast progression anyways.

The thing is... unlike some other games, ESO has more content then you can play through casually in a week. Which happens to be one of the things I so love about it!
Sure, it also means that if you want an alt, you have to do it all over again. Which does take quite a bit of time... but hey, if you don't want to spend the effort, you have no right to complain not getting the effect.

Junkogen wrote: »

Once you've done all the quests, I'm sorry, but it does become about the destination.

Speak for yourself.
Yes I am spending time levelling my alts too.
But I also have fun playing on my main. Hunting down those more elusive achievements, farming craglorn for that occasional red stuff, fishing for that occasional roe, exploring nooks and crannies I passed other times, pursuing treasure maps, finding out what level map bosses or public dungeons I can solo, trying my luck in cyrodil, and most of all, roleplaying with the occasional friend...
To each their own I guess.

Race and/or class changes?
I would see no need for any of my toons until and unless they add new races/classes. But I wouldn't mind them being in the crown store... fur a hefty crown cost so FotM-chasers consider carefully, and at least support more of the game for all the rest of us if they do choose to change.

bertenburnyb16_ESO · June 2015

Junkogen wrote: »

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

want to get to end lvl faster, then complains theres nothing to do at endgame
its the journey, not the destination kids

Once you've done all the quests, I'm sorry, but it does become about the destination. Then it's just about leveling an alt or rerolling to a race that better fits your playstyle after ZOS changes game mechanics or nerfs your build into Oblivion. It's actually as much of a deterrent to playing as no end game. It just becomes a pain in the butt.

since only end game is lagrodiil, the game is pretty much over after u've done all the quests, and reached end lvl, u can grind and grind a few trails for bad rewards, or try cyro until u finally give up on the laggclusterf*ck

mtwiggz · June 2015

I don't support race or class respecs at all and believe the pre-veteran leveling is quite fast and easy. Actually it only takes about 8-12 in game hours to go from level 1 to 50 - if you know what you're doing.

I would agree that the veteran ranks are a bit grindish, more than a bit actually. The new XP potions and scrolls help with it, but not nearly enough. Realistically it only cuts your grind time by about a third, if you're questing - you may as well forget it. Some people enjoy questing, some don't mind grinding, some even think the veteran leveling isn't that bad. Personally the only part of ESO I really enjoy is the PvP. So getting to VR14 is really the only thing on my mind when making a new character. Unfortunately the grindwall is absolutely ridiculous.

Thank you for adding in XP potions and scrolls ZoS. Can we have a "Straight to VR14" potion now? Would really appreciate it. As would my developing arthritis.

Keep_Door · June 2015

class change id say no to, but race/appearance i say i big HELL YEAH !!!! id pay for that i hate how my toon looks i was to excited to play and kinda rushed through the character creation on my main

iiKiiNG522 · June 2015

I like all the feedback. I can see where everyone is coming from.

patrykplawskib16_ESO · June 2015

AngryNord wrote: »

Seriously? If you do every quest in a zone you run the risk, at least in the level 5-15 and 15-25 zones, to be so overleveled towards the end, that you won't get any XP... If anything this game needs _slower_ levelling.

Np the xp is fine now if they make it slower vr ranks are going to be just like back in 1.3

AngryNord · June 2015

patrykplawskib16_ESO wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

Seriously? If you do every quest in a zone you run the risk, at least in the level 5-15 and 15-25 zones, to be so overleveled towards the end, that you won't get any XP... If anything this game needs _slower_ levelling.

Np the xp is fine now if they make it slower vr ranks are going to be just like back in 1.3

For starting characters, especially with the TU boost, you run a very real risk of overleveling the pre-level 20 content so much you won't be getting XP towards the end...

patrykplawskib16_ESO · July 2015

AngryNord wrote: »

patrykplawskib16_ESO wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

Seriously? If you do every quest in a zone you run the risk, at least in the level 5-15 and 15-25 zones, to be so overleveled towards the end, that you won't get any XP... If anything this game needs _slower_ levelling.

Np the xp is fine now if they make it slower vr ranks are going to be just like back in 1.3

For starting characters, especially with the TU boost, you run a very real risk of overleveling the pre-level 20 content so much you won't be getting XP towards the end...[/quote

I like the easy levelling, its makes it much faster when making new alts and new players don't have to rush it, they can just play throught it slowly even if they get no xp.

Milktray · July 2015

On every mmo i take my time deciding on looks, race, class, gender etc

Put Race/Gender/Class changes in the store and you'll just get ppl thinking even less about creating their toon and just about levelling THEN they will probably complain about hurrying and they want Changes cheaper or free etc etc etc

Van_0S · September 2015

Plz, zenimax add this feature. Most of us will forgive you the changes you have made for the recent patch.(nerf/buff or do anything that you want in the upcoming patchs)

Kronuxx · September 2015

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

Plz, zenimax add this feature. Most of us will forgive you the changes you have made for the recent patch.(nerf/buff or do anything that you want in the upcoming patchs)

Let's not add this feature. What a bad idea to allow class rerolling? There's no need. You do know you have alts that you can create right...Also, it does not take long to level, in fact, I'm telling all the new players right now, yes you can get to level 50 in a week, and that's being very generous on time. I've seen people get to VR14 in one week (a little extreme though). But comfortably playing for 3 hours of solid questing within one week you can get to 50. Although you would probably have to skip through all the dialogue, but if you do that then go play WoW. ESO was never meant to played through as a quick stream. Hence why they spent so much on obtaining great writers. You'll enjoy ESO so much more if you take the time to listen to and enjoy the stories that unfold as you quest. That is what ESO is about.

Anlaemar · September 2015

No. You can level too quickly now. Just reroll.

I got a new character to V1 in under 40 hours by questing and then grinding the last 8 levels (took less than two hours) because I was done with Coldharbor and main quest lines.

We don't need race changes.

Alucardo · September 2015

Anlaemar wrote: »

No. You can level too quickly now. Just reroll.

I got a new character to V1 in under 40 hours by questing and then grinding the last 8 levels (took less than two hours) because I was done with Coldharbor and main quest lines.

We don't need race changes.

Before I say this, I want to state that I am against class changing. Now, how the hell do you get to V1 in under 40 hours? After 2.5 days I'm level 15. Been rushing around grabbing every quest on the map I could find, and then if I came across a nice grind spot I'd stop there and bash a few things until I made a level.

Anyway, while I said I'm against changing a class, I do have second thoughts. Not for myself, because I'm happy with my decisions, but for other people. Things get nerfed, and sometimes quite drastically. You've got a VR1 and all of a sudden something changes that you can't stand, then why shouldn't you have the option of changing your class after all that hard work? Perhaps they could lose a few levels or something as a downside. Somebody class swapping does not really affect me, so to be honest I couldn't care what they do. Changing race doesn't make much sense to me. It's much easier to throw away a shield and pick up a staff than morph into something completely different.

LordSemaj · September 2015

We should just do what RIFT and FFXIV did and allow multiple specs and classes. ZOS can add a quest that gives your character the right to pledge to some daedric entity for a class change and be infused with the holy powers of the dragonknight champion.

Now you can poof back and forth between nightblade and dragonknight.

Or if they're really adventurous, use all the skills of both.

The Nightknight.

Turelus · September 2015

You can make level 50 in a day.

You can make VR 16 in a week or less.

XP is fine. Also please don't ask for a mechanic which changes the game dramatically to change an unrelated issue. If you have a problem with the XP, address that issue not class/race changes.

Turelus · September 2015

LordSemaj wrote: »

We should just do what RIFT and FFXIV did and allow multiple specs and classes. ZOS can add a quest that gives your character the right to pledge to some daedric entity for a class change and be infused with the holy powers of the dragonknight champion.

Now you can poof back and forth between nightblade and dragonknight.

Or if they're really adventurous, use all the skills of both.

The Nightknight.

I wouldn't be against this if you had to level all the classes, and there was a substantial cost involved each time you switched. Like 100k or so. That would make it something even the millionaires couldn't keep changing on a daily basis for long.

Van_0S · September 2015

Turelus wrote: »

LordSemaj wrote: »

We should just do what RIFT and FFXIV did and allow multiple specs and classes. ZOS can add a quest that gives your character the right to pledge to some daedric entity for a class change and be infused with the holy powers of the dragonknight champion.

Now you can poof back and forth between nightblade and dragonknight.

Or if they're really adventurous, use all the skills of both.

The Nightknight.

I wouldn't be against this if you had to level all the classes, and there was a substantial cost involved each time you switched. Like 100k or so. That would make it something even the millionaires couldn't keep changing on a daily basis for long.

100k!!, for a class change!!!
Now if that happens then there will be no free vamp/WW bite (like it will cost 20- 50 k)

LordSemaj · September 2015

There'd be no point to it if the class change wasn't accessible. Might as well just roll a new character since Log Out is free.

Jultzy · September 2015

The only problem I see is the cadwells silver/gold making you have to play through the other factions zones and takes away the fun of making character in new factions to experience the other factions zones and quests

A class change would be terrible but a race/sex change option (payed one) would be cool to have. Also an ingame barber shop where you can change your apperance (in game money much like the bank space) would be cool.

Rune_Relic · September 2015

Anlaemar wrote: »

No. You can level too quickly now. Just reroll.

I got a new character to V1 in under 40 hours by questing and then grinding the last 8 levels (took less than two hours) because I was done with Coldharbor and main quest lines.

We don't need race changes.

QFT.. remove Vet Ranks.

shugg · September 2015

Alot of people saying dont race or class change becouse they can do it in x amount of hours, im all for race change. Im on the ps4 vet 14, i origanly wanted to be a NB caster however my roll has changed since v2, i now main tank for the guild and would love to change the race from a breton to something more tanky. As for class i would have to condider it, but i would love the option as i only play a main.

The people saying it would increase the flavour of the month issue arnt true if u just cap the amount of times u can roll also if this wasnt implemented those same FOTM players just reroll as grind to 14 in a week any way .

Van_0S · September 2015

A class change is better than race change coz when zeni decides to nerf this and that then at least we should have the option to change class.
As an elder scroll fan, I suggest a class and race change to fit the game series (like in skyrim or morrowind, u could change anytime u want)