Aren't we so lucky

Domander · July 2015

to have bugs and unintended balance issues taken care of so very quickly.....

such as nirnhoned armor making magicka useless and melee spells going through dodge. Maces that make heavy armor meaningless, and players getting stuck after they charge.

ZOS, you should patch this stuff, waiting until the next big update (whenever that is) is hurting your player base.

I love this game, I hate that issues get put off for months.

bosmern_ESO · July 2015

MOAR 5GB AUDIO PATCHES PLS

Domander · July 2015

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

MOAR 5GB AUDIO PATCHES PLS

Priorities!

though... I like some of the changes/additions.

vortexman11 · July 2015

I was amazed they finally fixed outpost doors, I think we should all give them a round of applause for that. I'm just going to have to leap in the old fashion way...and find a tall rock >.>

Snit · July 2015

Domander wrote: »

such as nirnhoned armor making magicka useless and melee spells going through dodge. Maces that make heavy armor meaningless, and players getting stuck after they charge.

I agree -- it's mystifying. How does it take three to six months to fix simple stuff like this? And these should be simple. The mace armor penetration thing is obviously a bug. The other issues are also clearly not working as intended, and none need to be at all complicated to fix. They're a matter of changing a couple numbers in a database. That takes six months?

The charge thing may be more complex. But the others make me wonder if ZOS is severely resource constrained. The alternative explanations are less charitable.

Rook_Master · July 2015

There is no excuse for the delay in fixing Nirnhoned and Armor Pen.

Just last night I got the group leader bug, AGAIN.

Who is the idiot that is submitting all this feedback about audio needing fixes?

Glory · July 2015

Domander wrote: »

to have bugs and unintended balance issues taken care of so very quickly.....

such as nirnhoned armor making magicka useless and melee spells going through dodge. Maces that make heavy armor meaningless, and players getting stuck after they charge.

ZOS, you should patch this stuff, waiting until the next big update (whenever that is) is hurting your player base.

I love this game, I hate that issues get put off for months.

Since I've heard about the mace armor penetration but not quite understood it, can I ask what is wrong with it?

I do notice that I take huge hits no matter what armor I'm wearing (heavy vs. light), but I'd love to know the numbers behind it.

vortexman11 · July 2015

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

to have bugs and unintended balance issues taken care of so very quickly.....

such as nirnhoned armor making magicka useless and melee spells going through dodge. Maces that make heavy armor meaningless, and players getting stuck after they charge.

ZOS, you should patch this stuff, waiting until the next big update (whenever that is) is hurting your player base.

I love this game, I hate that issues get put off for months.

Since I've heard about the mace armor penetration but not quite understood it, can I ask what is wrong with it?

I do notice that I take huge hits no matter what armor I'm wearing (heavy vs. light), but I'd love to know the numbers behind it.

You can get upwards of 30,000 armour penetration when dual wielding maces.

Valnas · July 2015

meanwhile, people in nirn can get 32.5 sp resist after debuffs and max player spell pen. clearly game is working as intended.

sadownik · July 2015

ebethke_ESO wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

to have bugs and unintended balance issues taken care of so very quickly.....

such as nirnhoned armor making magicka useless and melee spells going through dodge. Maces that make heavy armor meaningless, and players getting stuck after they charge.

ZOS, you should patch this stuff, waiting until the next big update (whenever that is) is hurting your player base.

I love this game, I hate that issues get put off for months.

Since I've heard about the mace armor penetration but not quite understood it, can I ask what is wrong with it?

I do notice that I take huge hits no matter what armor I'm wearing (heavy vs. light), but I'd love to know the numbers behind it.

No numbers but you propably noticed that many people have dual wielded maces? Well seems that each mace with sharpened trait counts as 2 handed weapon so having 2 of them makes heavy armour er... not so heavy?

Snit · July 2015

I think we all understand that bugs like this are inevitable. MMO's are complex.

Why does it take so incredibly long to fix them?

sadownik · July 2015

Snit wrote: »

I think we all understand that bugs like this are inevitable. MMO's are complex.

Why does it take so incredibly long to fix them?

Exactly. Adding new content is one thing but inability to fix numerous bugs that linger for months is something completely different.

tengri · July 2015

Fixing actual bugs requires a lot more man power.
On the other hand... updating audio does not require too much effort - any intern with headphones and an i-pad can go outside recording all those lovely nature sounds during lunch break.
Or come up with a few new tunes (as in *beep*, *bash*, *cling*, most certainly not expecting any Vivaldi's here) in his mom's basement...
Then put out one big ass patch and everyone is in awe about all the new sound polishing and stuff. Mostly useless. But bright and shiny nonetheless.

riverdragon72 · July 2015

I haven't gone into pvp, but I've noticed that the game is much more responsive, and the audio desynchs drove me nuts.

Publius_Scipio · July 2015

Snit wrote: »

I think we all understand that bugs like this are inevitable. MMO's are complex.

Why does it take so incredibly long to fix them?

Because we don't know how deep the bugs go and what would be required to fix them. We don't know how much code or other changes need to implemented for a bug to be fixed.

ThyIronFist · July 2015

They don't care about balance issues and broken stuff that affects PvP, they never did. So long as the Craglorn carebears and the roleplayers are happy. That's all that matters.

And how people can defend ZOS in this regard is beyond me.

Publius_Scipio · July 2015

ThyIronFist wrote: »

They don't care about balance issues and broken stuff that affects PvP, they never did. So long as the Craglorn carebears and the roleplayers are happy. That's all that matters.

And how people can defend ZOS in this regard is beyond me.

That's a mighty large accusation from someone on an online forum who doesn't have any knowledge of any ongoings internally at ZOS.

Cathexis · July 2015

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

ThyIronFist wrote: »

They don't care about balance issues and broken stuff that affects PvP, they never did. So long as the Craglorn carebears and the roleplayers are happy. That's all that matters.

And how people can defend ZOS in this regard is beyond me.

That's a mighty large accusation from someone on an online forum who doesn't have any knowledge of any ongoings internally at ZOS.

Given the current state of the game I don't think ZOS knows what's going on internally at ZOS.

Talcyndl · July 2015

Domander wrote: »

melee spells going through dodge.

Please don't "fix" this.

Tripwyr · July 2015

Valnas wrote: »

meanwhile, people in nirn can get 32.5 sp resist after debuffs and max player spell pen. clearly game is working as intended.

They have specifically stated that Nirnhoned is working as they intended it to work. It is a balance issue, just like old ultimate regeneration and 0-4 ultimate bats.

Valnas · July 2015

I jsut don't understand why having a balance discussion is out of the question when it's pretty evident this isn't really working out ideally. i get that it's working as 'implemented'(nirn) versus phys pen (broken), but regardless of the comparison, nirn is ruining build diversity.

Domander · July 2015

vortexman11 wrote: »

I was amazed they finally fixed outpost doors, I think we should all give them a round of applause for that. I'm just going to have to leap in the old fashion way...and find a tall rock >.>

hehe, true

Talcyndl wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

melee spells going through dodge.

Please don't "fix" this.

If you are stamina and not exploiting nirnhoned, you'll go right down to these things bypassing dodge. The flip side is that nirnhoned makes magicka damage pathetic. They both need fixed at the same time.

Raizin · July 2015

Domander wrote: »

vortexman11 wrote: »

I was amazed they finally fixed outpost doors, I think we should all give them a round of applause for that. I'm just going to have to leap in the old fashion way...and find a tall rock >.>

hehe, true

Talcyndl wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

melee spells going through dodge.

Please don't "fix" this.

If you are stamina and not exploiting nirnhoned, you'll go right down to these things bypassing dodge. The flip side is that nirnhoned makes magicka damage pathetic. They both need fixed at the same time.

expect halfway patch, fixing only half things out of that half

- as per every patch of zos = release patch + break more things then fix = be happy!

Molsondry · July 2015

vortexman11 wrote: »

I was amazed they finally fixed outpost doors, I think we should all give them a round of applause for that. I'm just going to have to leap in the old fashion way...and find a tall rock >.>

Fixed the door yeah but did they broke something else like ussual look this :

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/189326/worst-bug-ive-encountered-in-pvp-ever#latest

LOL

kevlarto_ESO · July 2015

Just wait that "Big Update" is coming, and be 15+gb I am sure, I hear it will be soon® /sigh

tinythinker · July 2015

This thread needs a /lurk.

Vis · July 2015

Maybe the forum moderators are doing too good of a job shielding the devs from our direct feedback. I would love to see what the average weekly report to devs look like.

ZOS_RichLambert · July 2015

/lurk

Elsonso · July 2015

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

/lurk

@ZOS_RichLambert ... I appreciate the /lurks but I am hoping that they are followed up with /comment after a few hours...

Jules · July 2015

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

/lurk

LOL. Butforrrealthough. ZOS on point today

Vis · July 2015

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

/lurk

Well, at least we got the lurk. Makes me feel better. Thank you.