Auction House

Matherios · June 2015

I think eso team should think of making a action house.
Yea you can say they are trade guilds and u can join 5 guilds but come on now not every guild has the item u are looking for plus it makes it easier.

AlnilamE · June 2015

You are obviously new here. Welcome to ESO!

Let me introduce you to the search function of the forums, where you can find about a million threads about the Auction House issue:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/search?Search=Auction+house

Ljungstroem · June 2015

Hello Everyone,

I am quite new to this game as I am only level 40 with my very first character and therefore have limited time with this online. I am a former player of Skyrim and therefore know about the game in some way. I am playing on Xbox EU for anyone asking.

Even though I have very limited time with the game, I have been a part of a few major guilds with 400+ members, and to say the least my experiences have been... Non enjoying.I know the game is rather new to consoles and there is no stable market yet, but people just seems unreasonable pricing their useless stuff in the guild stores. I have been checking everyday for a week now, and I only rarely find anything good a reasonable price to buy. It should be said that I am mainly using the Guild Stores for blacksmithing stuff which I am level 41 now.

My struggle

As I am playing on a console I do not have access to add-ons or any software that can help me scan through prices on a various of guild stores or generate average prices, and therefore it is annoying that I can only access 5 guilds. 5 Guilds just don't cut it with the stupidity that lives among these guilds. I understand that players would want to make a penny but for everyone who is experiencing the same as me, this must come to an end.

I have no idea how this guild store system works on PC but consoles do not have add-ons or any chat system to help us selling stuff in social places, and therefore we are in need of something smarter.

My suggestion

I would suggest a Global Trade Center located in each of the capitals of the alliances. Here it would be possible to buy and sell items across all alliances at a slightly larger fee than if you were to use the Guild Store. The Global Trade Centers should be assigned to each server as well as player system. So for me I would only have access to the Xbox One EU Global Trade Center, this should be to make it equal for everyone within the same system.

The Guild Stores should still be in the game and would now function as "inside trading" like if you would be sure to help your clan mates out or just wanted to keep your buying/selling habits local.

This system would prevent people at ruining the stores with items listed at 350k or ridiculous prices. Let the market be controlled by real demand and supply. Nothing really to be lost here. Its a supplement to what is already there and would just work as a Global Guild Store to be fair, so I don't see much development going into this system.

Let me hear your thoughts, especially for you PC gamers as you might have a different perspective than me. Also let me hear from every console gamers if this is something you would like or not.

Good evening
- Lj

Grapdjan · June 2015

It's pretty simple. Launching without a functional trade system was a very bad idea. However - all the 1000s of people who didn't like this change left ESO for a more social MMO, leaving just people who misguidedly for whatever reason think the current system is fine.

Now of course, new players arrive, play the game, realise what a crock the trade system is, post on here about an auction house, the people who stayed come and lambaste them and then they leave.

coryevans_3b14_ESO · June 2015

Grapdjan wrote: »

It's pretty simple. Launching without a functional trade system was a very bad idea. However - all the 1000s of people who didn't like this change left ESO for a more social MMO, leaving just people who misguidedly for whatever reason think the current system is fine.

Now of course, new players arrive, play the game, realise what a crock the trade system is, post on here about an auction house, the people who stayed come and lambaste them and then they leave.

The trade system is incredibly functional. Made 20k in the last few days selling stuff. Much better than a global auction house.

Inflation is much harder to creep in this way. Also it gimps gold sellers abilities and market cornering. But hey, facts really do stink.

arena25 · June 2015

Matherios wrote: »

I think eso team should think of making a action house.
Yea you can say they are trade guilds and u can join 5 guilds but come on now not every guild has the item u are looking for plus it makes it easier.

Congratulations! You joined the "Beating a Dead Horse Club."

Seriously, read what @AlnilamE said.

Ljungstroem · June 2015

What I honestly want is just every guild store to be placed within a reasonable distance and people not to be ignorant when pricing stuff at 350k for a silly item.

Gandrhulf_Harbard · June 2015

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Inflation is much harder to creep in this way. Also it gimps gold sellers abilities and market cornering. But hey, facts really do stink.

Really?

20k for perfect Roe?

The only people who defend the current system are those who are gouging the rest of the playerbase.

The Kiosk system is an abortion, and it should have been treated as such - thrown in a bucket and flushed.

Apart from Big Battles in LOTRO I can't think of a worse subsystem in any game I have played... ...ever.

Even the Tri-Trade gank system in Silk Road online was better than this, even when facing the massed ranks of Anbu.

All The Best

Curtischoy · June 2015

The trade system is functional, it just doesn't function how you would like it to.

coryevans_3b14_ESO · June 2015

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Inflation is much harder to creep in this way. Also it gimps gold sellers abilities and market cornering. But hey, facts really do stink.

Really?

20k for perfect Roe?

The only people who defend the current system are those who are gouging the rest of the playerbase.

The Kiosk system is an abortion, and it should have been treated as such - thrown in a bucket and flushed.

Apart from Big Battles in LOTRO I can't think of a worse subsystem in any game I have played... ...ever.

Even the Tri-Trade gank system in Silk Road online was better than this, even when facing the massed ranks of Anbu.

All The Best

Perfect Roe is INCREDIBELY rare and should be 15k or so (NA PC prices).

The kiosk system works great.

All the best

Zorrashi · June 2015

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Inflation is much harder to creep in this way. Also it gimps gold sellers abilities and market cornering. But hey, facts really do stink.

Really?

20k for perfect Roe?

The only people who defend the current system are those who are gouging the rest of the playerbase.

Let me stop you right there. I recently left all of my guilds and still make a somewhat reasonable profit (2 to 8k a week) by selling collected mats, a few set pieces and crafting minor glyphs en mass so people can deconstruct them to level enchanting faster.

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

The Kiosk system is an abortion, and it should have been treated as such - thrown in a bucket and flushed.

Apart from Big Battles in LOTRO I can't think of a worse subsystem in any game I have played... ...ever.

Even the Tri-Trade gank system in Silk Road online was better than this, even when facing the massed ranks of Anbu.

All The Best

I actually think the current system is working pretty well. It still needs improvements (a lot actually), but I would still take this system over a global/regional AH.

Edit: oops, posted in the wrong "Auction House" thread. If your on console, I am sorry you don't have text chat, and thus cannot find a loophole in trying to participate in the economy without joining a guild. Still against global AH though.

dabulls7491 · June 2015

I kinda like the guild trader system, just wish there where more kiosks. Id be fine with a global auction house too. Id rather other features are worked on instead of a auction house though.

AlnilamE · July 2015

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Inflation is much harder to creep in this way. Also it gimps gold sellers abilities and market cornering. But hey, facts really do stink.

Really?

20k for perfect Roe?

The only people who defend the current system are those who are gouging the rest of the playerbase.

The Kiosk system is an abortion, and it should have been treated as such - thrown in a bucket and flushed.

Apart from Big Battles in LOTRO I can't think of a worse subsystem in any game I have played... ...ever.

Even the Tri-Trade gank system in Silk Road online was better than this, even when facing the massed ranks of Anbu.

All The Best

And now Perfect Roe is averaging at 13k. So as the market saturates, prices go down.

Same with the recipe fragments. Meanwhile, bait prices have skyrocketed because people don't realize how easy it is to get.

It's been really interesting watching the price curves as certain items become more common or more rare.

P3ZZL3 · July 2015

I'm selling stacks of bait at 3k on EU

Tandor · July 2015

Curtischoy wrote: »

The trade system is functional, it just doesn't function how you would like it to.

No, it's functional in terms of selling for the few guilds that do well out of it but not for those in other guilds or not in guilds at all (and there are massive cost and time requirements for those guilds who use it), and it is wholly dysfunctional for buyers who are limited to those kiosks in zones they can access and which they have to traipse round with no sensible search facility. In both respects its functionality is focused primarily at higher level players.

So it isn't a case of not functioning how an individual poster may like it to, it simply doesn't function at all for a large part of the playerbase and is only defended by those making a lot of money out of it. Those who have traditionally liked it are increasingly calling for changes to be made to it, not least because it is such a hassle organising the kiosk bids and raising the funds for them.

Cherryblossom · July 2015

Whilst you will always find the defenders of the current system, it doesn't change the fact it's not easy to use.

I for one, simply don't bother trying to find anything to buy, it's to much effort! I do sell though and I know which guilds I can sell certain Items at a higher price than others as the Guild members are like me and can't be bothered to spend hours traveling Tamerial trying to find what they want at a good price!

The current system is not fair, it actually favours the large trade guilds, you know the ones with 450+ (get kicked if your not there for a few days) as they are the ones who can get the best placed traders, so the actual prices are set by these few guilds.

The simple fact is the current system is not good enough and does not service the whole community, which is evident by the amount of people who hate this current system.

I'm not saying that we have to have an AH but the current system does not work well.

Maybe we could continue with a similar set up but have the trade areas in only major population centers and one trader as a point of sale for more than one guild. This way they would be easier to find and more people would have the chance to trade with the community.

Elloa · July 2015

Auction House, never going to happen - @ZOS_JasonLeavey (in a ESOLive)

Tabitha · July 2015

Well the current trade system isnt the best. Maybe an Auction House is or isnt the answer.

My suggestion would be a central hub/market place, that copied all the guild vendors across the world, so you could buy from vendor of Guild 1 in newbie starting area or wherever (to capture new player market), OR you can got to the market area where all the vendors are duplicated allowing you to bid there if you dont fancy running round the world looking at vendors. This allows the system to keep the bidding wars for vendors, and inter trading guild competition, whilst making it much less of a headache to shop around.