Slonekb05 wrote: »

Topic says it all. Game is being ruined because its soooo easy. Why can i kill things 7- 8 lv's above me with ease. Not just one or two but three mobs at a time 7-8lvs above, and im playing a melee sorcerer. Most times i don't even have to move, just stand still and hit right trigger. Quests have no meaning, i mean who cares what your killing when its all just fluff in your way, a lv 20mudcrab will give you the same fight as a lv 20 Troll. Why would ZOS do this? LVs 1-50 need a huge overhaul

How long have you been playing? Do you have veteran chars, and have applied your champion points to the low level chars?

jkemmery wrote: »

Slonekb05 wrote: »

Topic says it all. Game is being ruined because its soooo easy. Why can i kill things 7- 8 lv's above me with ease. Not just one or two but three mobs at a time 7-8lvs above, and im playing a melee sorcerer. Most times i don't even have to move, just stand still and hit right trigger. Quests have no meaning, i mean who cares what your killing when its all just fluff in your way, a lv 20mudcrab will give you the same fight as a lv 20 Troll. Why would ZOS do this? LVs 1-50 need a huge overhaul

How long have you been playing? Do you have veteran chars, and have applied your champion points to the low level chars?

Your missing the point completely . lv 1-50 is a joke, which is where all the story is and majority of games content.

Gimp yourself because content is too easy...; said no gamer EVER
#DeveloperConfirmed

kaithuzar wrote: »

Gimp yourself because content is too easy...; said no gamer EVER
#DeveloperConfirmed

Dark Souls 1 / 2.

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agree with what everyone is saying. I just don't see how ZOS does not see this as a huge problem. You should not be able to even mess with mobs 7-8 lvs above you, that's just gaming 101. Hopefully one day ZOS hears the cries of ppl who want a challenge and reverse there thinking. Or create instance delves/dungeons/quests so any player can decide what difficulty lv any given quest can be.

Game was more difficult at PC launch. MANY whined and complained. ZOS listened to their community. Hopefully, they've since learned a lesson.

If you need some challenging solo content, try Craglorn. See if you can simply

just stand still and hit right trigger

and "WIN".

Oh...and if the trash mobs are no challenge, try a delve.

Yeah I completely agree. I love ESO but it's so flippin' easy. Especially Those useless, easy ass dark anchors. I posted about the difficulty awhile back. They don't listen.

Gorthax wrote: »

Welcome to what has become of ESO since a crap ton of carebears wanted carebear mode activated! "The game is too hard, I cant win" was all ZoS needed to hear.....those same people crying that the game was too hard are more than likely gone now and never returned anyways.

I'd imagine most of the people complaining about the UI needing to be removed and game difficulty being too high are long gone, for sure. Ironically, and unfortunately because they actually were enjoyable, the questlines with the fate of the world or even just the fate of a city hanging in the balance lose most of their impact when even on a fresh new mule account with no champion points, my new characters can basically roundhouse kick the evil destroyers of all that exists and doom of all life in the universe in the face and they're KO'd in one shot. From there, the story kind of goes into a satirical mode, which isn't what was intended to be gotten out of the (often very well crafted) storylines in The Elder Scrolls Online.

jkemmery wrote: »

Slonekb05 wrote: »

jkemmery wrote: »

Slonekb05 wrote: »

Topic says it all. Game is being ruined because its soooo easy. Why can i kill things 7- 8 lv's above me with ease. Not just one or two but three mobs at a time 7-8lvs above, and im playing a melee sorcerer. Most times i don't even have to move, just stand still and hit right trigger. Quests have no meaning, i mean who cares what your killing when its all just fluff in your way, a lv 20mudcrab will give you the same fight as a lv 20 Troll. Why would ZOS do this? LVs 1-50 need a huge overhaul

How long have you been playing? Do you have veteran chars, and have applied your champion points to the low level chars?

Your missing the point completely . lv 1-50 is a joke, which is where all the story is and majority of games content.

My point was that for a new player, it might not be as easy as it is for you. If you find it too easy, you can gimp yourself by using lover level armor and weapons, and not applying those champion points to your alts.

If the game does not offer any challenge one should just bypass 80% of what makes a CRPG fun: effective character building progression and efficient gearing progresion. Yes what an awesome concept.

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Way back when, Veteran levels were a real challenge, and they were really fun.

Then everyone cried because they couldnt spam one button at a boss and not kill so ZoS destroyed the learning curve and made it really easy.

I miss those days...

This was done a number of times in beta to certain encounters, but when the game launched it at least provided a moderate challenge to the average player. However, awhile after launch, there was a massive and global nerf to basically everything in the veteran ranks, and the sub-50 gameplay was never really very tough in the first place, only becoming easier with crafted sets and gear ready to buy from other players at a whim. This was a good 8-10 months before the champion system existed, for the people asking "Are you using champion points? Did you take off all your gear?" and other questions. The difficulty level is unfortunately so incredibly low at this point outside of the hardmode Trials, vDSA when aiming for leaderboard topping times, and some circumstances in PVP (against organized groups or extremely overwhelming numbers) that it ends up diminishing the gameplay by quite a bit.

I'd like to see the default difficulty returned towards where it was at launch, and then a scaling slider you could choose from say, six options, ranging from 50%, 100%, 150%, 200%, 300%, and 400% of "normal" difficulty that would scale mobs' health, experience earned, gold earned, loot chances for high quality items or crafting harvests, and exp rewarded from quests/other areas, proportionally. Phasing would be done just how it is now when you're in a quest town that you rescued but someone else hadn't, yet... you see and play with people in the same difficulty level, and if you change it you are ported back to the main city of that zone to load into the one you now selected.

maxlacab16_ESO wrote: »

If you need some challenging solo content, try Craglorn. See if you can simply

just stand still and hit right trigger

and "WIN".

Oh...and if the trash mobs are no challenge, try a delve.

Attacking group content on your own isn't a solution for solo content being trivially easy. Of course, you can just go and do all of what you just mentioned without much issue, too, as Craglorn's difficulty was fairly low upon its release even. Heck, I solo'd one of them before it even hit live pretty quickly... and not long after it hit the live servers, people were posting their videos solo'ing every single last one of those delves. The quest areas were largely also solo'able other than forced mechanics such as requiring people to stand on a floor pad to open a door to the boss, although you could do so if you had people volunteer to simply open the door for you to try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waL1g9_2Oig

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Way back when, Veteran levels were a real challenge, and they were really fun.

Then everyone cried because they couldnt spam one button at a boss and not kill so ZoS destroyed the learning curve and made it really easy.

I miss those days...

This was done a number of times in beta to certain encounters, but when the game launched it at least provided a moderate challenge to the average player. However, awhile after launch, there was a massive and global nerf to basically everything in the veteran ranks, and the sub-50 gameplay was never really very tough in the first place, only becoming easier with crafted sets and gear ready to buy from other players at a whim. This was a good 8-10 months before the champion system existed, for the people asking "Are you using champion points? Did you take off all your gear?" and other questions. The difficulty level is unfortunately so incredibly low at this point outside of the hardmode Trials, vDSA when aiming for leaderboard topping times, and some circumstances in PVP (against organized groups or extremely overwhelming numbers) that it ends up diminishing the gameplay by quite a bit.

I'd like to see the default difficulty returned towards where it was at launch, and then a scaling slider you could choose from say, six options, ranging from 50%, 100%, 150%, 200%, 300%, and 400% of "normal" difficulty that would scale mobs' health, experience earned, gold earned, loot chances for high quality items or crafting harvests, and exp rewarded from quests/other areas, proportionally. Phasing would be done just how it is now when you're in a quest town that you rescued but someone else hadn't, yet... you see and play with people in the same difficulty level, and if you change it you are ported back to the main city of that zone to load into the one you now selected.

maxlacab16_ESO wrote: »

If you need some challenging solo content, try Craglorn. See if you can simply

just stand still and hit right trigger

and "WIN".

Oh...and if the trash mobs are no challenge, try a delve.

Attacking group content on your own isn't a solution for solo content being trivially easy. Of course, you can just go and do all of what you just mentioned without much issue, too, as Craglorn's difficulty was fairly low upon its release even. Heck, I solo'd one of them before it even hit live pretty quickly... and not long after it hit the live servers, people were posting their videos solo'ing every single last one of those delves. The quest areas were largely also solo'able other than forced mechanics such as requiring people to stand on a floor pad to open a door to the boss, although you could do so if you had people volunteer to simply open the door for you to try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waL1g9_2Oig

They are better off just scaling the player and drops based on the difficulty they select. Less development complexity than adding that many differences in phasing. Even with phasing, if former enemies have white outlines, I can still join in combat with someone who hasn't finished the quest and I am attacking the same enemy. They just seem to change aggro. It seems like they don't actually put us in different instances when we are on different stages. They just change how mobs or npcs interact with us.

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Way back when, Veteran levels were a real challenge, and they were really fun.

Then everyone cried because they couldnt spam one button at a boss and not kill so ZoS destroyed the learning curve and made it really easy.

I miss those days...

This was done a number of times in beta to certain encounters, but when the game launched it at least provided a moderate challenge to the average player. However, awhile after launch, there was a massive and global nerf to basically everything in the veteran ranks, and the sub-50 gameplay was never really very tough in the first place, only becoming easier with crafted sets and gear ready to buy from other players at a whim. This was a good 8-10 months before the champion system existed, for the people asking "Are you using champion points? Did you take off all your gear?" and other questions. The difficulty level is unfortunately so incredibly low at this point outside of the hardmode Trials, vDSA when aiming for leaderboard topping times, and some circumstances in PVP (against organized groups or extremely overwhelming numbers) that it ends up diminishing the gameplay by quite a bit.

I'd like to see the default difficulty returned towards where it was at launch, and then a scaling slider you could choose from say, six options, ranging from 50%, 100%, 150%, 200%, 300%, and 400% of "normal" difficulty that would scale mobs' health, experience earned, gold earned, loot chances for high quality items or crafting harvests, and exp rewarded from quests/other areas, proportionally. Phasing would be done just how it is now when you're in a quest town that you rescued but someone else hadn't, yet... you see and play with people in the same difficulty level, and if you change it you are ported back to the main city of that zone to load into the one you now selected.

maxlacab16_ESO wrote: »

If you need some challenging solo content, try Craglorn. See if you can simply

just stand still and hit right trigger

and "WIN".

Oh...and if the trash mobs are no challenge, try a delve.

Attacking group content on your own isn't a solution for solo content being trivially easy. Of course, you can just go and do all of what you just mentioned without much issue, too, as Craglorn's difficulty was fairly low upon its release even. Heck, I solo'd one of them before it even hit live pretty quickly... and not long after it hit the live servers, people were posting their videos solo'ing every single last one of those delves. The quest areas were largely also solo'able other than forced mechanics such as requiring people to stand on a floor pad to open a door to the boss, although you could do so if you had people volunteer to simply open the door for you to try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waL1g9_2Oig

Thumbs up good sir, entire post

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Way back when, Veteran levels were a real challenge, and they were really fun.

Then everyone cried because they couldnt spam one button at a boss and not kill so ZoS destroyed the learning curve and made it really easy.

I miss those days...

This was done a number of times in beta to certain encounters, but when the game launched it at least provided a moderate challenge to the average player. However, awhile after launch, there was a massive and global nerf to basically everything in the veteran ranks, and the sub-50 gameplay was never really very tough in the first place, only becoming easier with crafted sets and gear ready to buy from other players at a whim. This was a good 8-10 months before the champion system existed, for the people asking "Are you using champion points? Did you take off all your gear?" and other questions. The difficulty level is unfortunately so incredibly low at this point outside of the hardmode Trials, vDSA when aiming for leaderboard topping times, and some circumstances in PVP (against organized groups or extremely overwhelming numbers) that it ends up diminishing the gameplay by quite a bit.

I'd like to see the default difficulty returned towards where it was at launch, and then a scaling slider you could choose from say, six options, ranging from 50%, 100%, 150%, 200%, 300%, and 400% of "normal" difficulty that would scale mobs' health, experience earned, gold earned, loot chances for high quality items or crafting harvests, and exp rewarded from quests/other areas, proportionally. Phasing would be done just how it is now when you're in a quest town that you rescued but someone else hadn't, yet... you see and play with people in the same difficulty level, and if you change it you are ported back to the main city of that zone to load into the one you now selected.

maxlacab16_ESO wrote: »

If you need some challenging solo content, try Craglorn. See if you can simply

just stand still and hit right trigger

and "WIN".

Oh...and if the trash mobs are no challenge, try a delve.

Attacking group content on your own isn't a solution for solo content being trivially easy. Of course, you can just go and do all of what you just mentioned without much issue, too, as Craglorn's difficulty was fairly low upon its release even. Heck, I solo'd one of them before it even hit live pretty quickly... and not long after it hit the live servers, people were posting their videos solo'ing every single last one of those delves. The quest areas were largely also solo'able other than forced mechanics such as requiring people to stand on a floor pad to open a door to the boss, although you could do so if you had people volunteer to simply open the door for you to try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waL1g9_2Oig

I wish I had been making videos back in those days...