Silly question, but, does anyone else have this combat issue?

DenMoria · June 2015

I'm really enjoying TESO, but I'm having an issue with hand to hand combat. I can be standing right in front of an enemy and I cannot hit them at all (they can hit me though!). If I take a step back or to the side they start to glow again, but it just seems silly. Why would I stand 4 feet away from my enemy and slash at them with my knives? What am I, an orangutang with 5' arms? Doesn't seem to be an issue with spells or ranged weapons, but this is driving me a bit nuts with hand to hand.

Am I doing something wrong?

MissBizz · June 2015

Where is your reticle? Depending on if you in first person, or depending on how close your camera is while in third person... your reticle is actually to the right of your character, the reticle needs to be on the mob.. not your character.

Yes, it's weird.

If that's not your issues, hmm, then I'm not sure.

Merlin13KAGL · June 2015

Like MissBizz says, go into settings, camera, and adjust your reticle (Horitonal/Vertical offsets) until the game's hitzone matches up with your hit zone. (Where you feel like your hits should be connecting.)

Beyond that, distance approximation is odd, to say the least.

Melee distance reach is much closer than it appears. You'll find this out the first time a bear bites you from what seems like 10 feet away.

UrQuan · June 2015

If the mob is literally right on top of me so that our hit boxes overlap (I still don't understand why mobs are able to do this - I thought collision was supposed to keep it from happening) I have the same issue, as I can't get the targeting reticle to get the mob without moving away.

DenMoria · June 2015

Thank you! I had no idea about these settings. I will look in to them this evening. While I love my bow and spells, I do so like slashing away and poking holes in to things.

daemonios · June 2015

Targeting is all but FUBAR in this game. Just today I submitted a bug report because when a lootable corpse is on the ground, the targeting system selects it instead of a live mob even though the reticle is not pointing at the corpse. You will also hit a snake, frog, spider or mouse 100% of the time if it happens to come anywhere near an enemy. Among other issues...

DenMoria · June 2015

I keep seeing the word "mob" and I am not sure what everyone means.

I was talking about more of a 1 on 1 session with an enemy. If there's more than one, you at least target somebody in the group, which is fine.

I am more used to games where you can target your enemy but TESO doesn't seem to have anything like that.

Knaxia · June 2015

DenMoria wrote: »

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I was talking about more of a 1 on 1 session with an enemy. If there's more than one, you at least target somebody in the group, which is fine.

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Or you end up hitting a stupid critter you didn't see that walked somewhere on you screen that you wasted your ultimate on.

nastuug · June 2015

DenMoria wrote: »

I keep seeing the word "mob" and I am not sure what everyone means.

I was talking about more of a 1 on 1 session with an enemy. If there's more than one, you at least target somebody in the group, which is fine.

I am more used to games where you can target your enemy but TESO doesn't seem to have anything like that.

Mob = npc enemy

UrQuan · June 2015

DenMoria wrote: »

I keep seeing the word "mob" and I am not sure what everyone means.

A mob is a non-boss NPC enemy. I really don't know why a single one is called a mob... Confused the heck out of me when I started playing.

Xendyn · June 2015

The word Mobs is used here for pretty much any enemy npc.

If you're playing on console I don't think you have those offsets. (correct me if wrong there but I thought I'd seen that complaint)

ESO doesn't have hard targeting. On PC we have a Tab target but it's still not a true hard target.

jkemmery · June 2015

DenMoria wrote: »

I keep seeing the word "mob" and I am not sure what everyone means.

I was talking about more of a 1 on 1 session with an enemy. If there's more than one, you at least target somebody in the group, which is fine.

I am more used to games where you can target your enemy but TESO doesn't seem to have anything like that.

MOB in MMO stands for "Monster, Man or Beast" basically any NPC. It's one of those odd MMO terms that is kind of counterintuitive, as the term stands for a group in normal English, but can apply to an individual in the MMO/RPG world.

traigusb14_ESO2 · June 2015

jkemmery wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

I keep seeing the word "mob" and I am not sure what everyone means.

I was talking about more of a 1 on 1 session with an enemy. If there's more than one, you at least target somebody in the group, which is fine.

I am more used to games where you can target your enemy but TESO doesn't seem to have anything like that.

MOB in MMO stands for "Monster, Man or Beast" basically any NPC. It's one of those odd MMO terms that is kind of counterintuitive, as the term stands for a group in normal English, but can apply to an individual in the MMO/RPG world.

I'm pretty sure it is short for mobile asset.

Edit. been a long time so I looked it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mob_(video_gaming)

nastuug · June 2015

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

jkemmery wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

I keep seeing the word "mob" and I am not sure what everyone means.

I was talking about more of a 1 on 1 session with an enemy. If there's more than one, you at least target somebody in the group, which is fine.

I am more used to games where you can target your enemy but TESO doesn't seem to have anything like that.

MOB in MMO stands for "Monster, Man or Beast" basically any NPC. It's one of those odd MMO terms that is kind of counterintuitive, as the term stands for a group in normal English, but can apply to an individual in the MMO/RPG world.

I'm pretty sure it is short for mobile asset.

Edit. been a long time so I looked it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mob_(video_gaming)

"The term is properly an abbreviation rather than an acronym,[4][2] but backronyms for "MOB" such as "monster or beast," "mere ordinary beast" and "mean old ***" have also been coined."

Interesting. Thanks for the link.

MissBizz · June 2015

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Like MissBizz says, go into settings, camera, and adjust your reticle (Horitonal/Vertical offsets) until the game's hitzone matches up with your hit zone. (Where you feel like your hits should be connecting.)

Beyond that, distance approximation is odd, to say the least.

Melee distance reach is much closer than it appears. You'll find this out the first time a bear bites you from what seems like 10 feet away.

if YOU

Xendyn wrote: »

The word Mobs is used here for pretty much any enemy npc.

If you're playing on console I don't think you have those offsets. (correct me if wrong there but I thought I'd seen that complaint)

ESO doesn't have hard targeting. On PC we have a Tab target but it's still not a true hard target.

Correct. On PS4 I looked for a way to center my character.... no go. As well, never looked, but I haven't seen a tab target button on any controller maps I have looked at (nor have I found it through my tried and true method of button mashing on console until I figure out whatever everything does)

dlepi24 · June 2015

daemonios wrote: »

Targeting is all but FUBAR in this game. Just today I submitted a bug report because when a lootable corpse is on the ground, the targeting system selects it instead of a live mob even though the reticle is not pointing at the corpse. You will also hit a snake, frog, spider or mouse 100% of the time if it happens to come anywhere near an enemy. Among other issues...

The amount of rodents I've hit with a meteor. May they rest in peace.

UrQuan · June 2015

dlepi24 wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Targeting is all but FUBAR in this game. Just today I submitted a bug report because when a lootable corpse is on the ground, the targeting system selects it instead of a live mob even though the reticle is not pointing at the corpse. You will also hit a snake, frog, spider or mouse 100% of the time if it happens to come anywhere near an enemy. Among other issues...

The amount of rodents I've hit with a meteor. May they rest in peace.

Yeah, they deserved it though.

Merlin13KAGL · June 2015

daemonios wrote: »

Targeting is all but FUBAR in this game. Just today I submitted a bug report because when a lootable corpse is on the ground, the targeting system selects it instead of a live mob even though the reticle is not pointing at the corpse. You will also hit a snake, frog, spider or mouse 100% of the time if it happens to come anywhere near an enemy. Among other issues...

Yeah, and it seems the larger the creature, the smaller the hitbox, for some reason.

Quite irritating when you can't seem to hit the spider the size of a minivan or the 20 ft tall armored troll in front of you, yet your projectile will happily exit sideways instead of at the enemy right in front of you.

jkemmery wrote: »

MOB in MMO stands for "Monster, Man or Beast" basically any NPC. It's one of those odd MMO terms that is kind of counterintuitive, as the term stands for a group in normal English, but can apply to an individual in the MMO/RPG world.

I'll be darned. I did not know that. (And I've been gamin a long time.) Just always assumed it referred to the fact that enemies usually came in groups or Mobs, and a single, by default got referred to as a mob.

MissBizz wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Like MissBizz says, go into settings, camera, and adjust your reticle (Horitonal/Vertical offsets) until the game's hitzone matches up with your hit zone. (Where you feel like your hits should be connecting.)

Beyond that, distance approximation is odd, to say the least.

Melee distance reach is much closer than it appears. You'll find this out the first time a bear bites you from what seems like 10 feet away.

if YOU

If I what? ( @Missbizz , are you swearing at me nicely?)

EDIT: Oh... Now I feel bad for getting hopes up. No idea why they don't have this in the settings console side. It really does make a big improvement in the feel of combat.

MissBizz · June 2015

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Targeting is all but FUBAR in this game. Just today I submitted a bug report because when a lootable corpse is on the ground, the targeting system selects it instead of a live mob even though the reticle is not pointing at the corpse. You will also hit a snake, frog, spider or mouse 100% of the time if it happens to come anywhere near an enemy. Among other issues...

Yeah, and it seems the larger the creature, the smaller the hitbox, for some reason.

Quite irritating when you can't seem to hit the spider the size of a minivan or the 20 ft tall armored troll in front of you, yet your projectile will happily exit sideways instead of at the enemy right in front of you.

jkemmery wrote: »

MOB in MMO stands for "Monster, Man or Beast" basically any NPC. It's one of those odd MMO terms that is kind of counterintuitive, as the term stands for a group in normal English, but can apply to an individual in the MMO/RPG world.

I'll be darned. I did not know that. (And I've been gamin a long time.) Just always assumed it referred to the fact that enemies usually came in groups or Mobs, and a single, by default got referred to as a mob.

MissBizz wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Like MissBizz says, go into settings, camera, and adjust your reticle (Horitonal/Vertical offsets) until the game's hitzone matches up with your hit zone. (Where you feel like your hits should be connecting.)

Beyond that, distance approximation is odd, to say the least.

Melee distance reach is much closer than it appears. You'll find this out the first time a bear bites you from what seems like 10 feet away.

if YOU

If I what? ( @Missbizz , are you swearing at me nicely?)

EDIT: Oh... Now I feel bad for getting hopes up. No idea why they don't have this in the settings console side. It really does make a big improvement in the feel of combat.

I think I started a sentence.. Then quoted again.. Lmao. Not even sure why that is there..

Merlin13KAGL · June 2015

MissBizz wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Targeting is all but FUBAR in this game. Just today I submitted a bug report because when a lootable corpse is on the ground, the targeting system selects it instead of a live mob even though the reticle is not pointing at the corpse. You will also hit a snake, frog, spider or mouse 100% of the time if it happens to come anywhere near an enemy. Among other issues...

Yeah, and it seems the larger the creature, the smaller the hitbox, for some reason.

Quite irritating when you can't seem to hit the spider the size of a minivan or the 20 ft tall armored troll in front of you, yet your projectile will happily exit sideways instead of at the enemy right in front of you.

jkemmery wrote: »

MOB in MMO stands for "Monster, Man or Beast" basically any NPC. It's one of those odd MMO terms that is kind of counterintuitive, as the term stands for a group in normal English, but can apply to an individual in the MMO/RPG world.

I'll be darned. I did not know that. (And I've been gamin a long time.) Just always assumed it referred to the fact that enemies usually came in groups or Mobs, and a single, by default got referred to as a mob.

MissBizz wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Like MissBizz says, go into settings, camera, and adjust your reticle (Horitonal/Vertical offsets) until the game's hitzone matches up with your hit zone. (Where you feel like your hits should be connecting.)

Beyond that, distance approximation is odd, to say the least.

Melee distance reach is much closer than it appears. You'll find this out the first time a bear bites you from what seems like 10 feet away.

if YOU

If I what? ( @Missbizz , are you swearing at me nicely?)

EDIT: Oh... Now I feel bad for getting hopes up. No idea why they don't have this in the settings console side. It really does make a big improvement in the feel of combat.

I think I started a sentence.. Then quoted again.. Lmao. Not even sure why that is there..

@MissBizz , you figured maybe you were politely telling me to "If off..."

Noomfy-Mop · June 2015

DenMoria wrote: »

I keep seeing the word "mob" and I am not sure what everyone means.

I was talking about more of a 1 on 1 session with an enemy. If there's more than one, you at least target somebody in the group, which is fine.

I am more used to games where you can target your enemy but TESO doesn't seem to have anything like that.

Mob basically means any hostile npc in the game. Even if it's just 1. It's still a mob.
Not really sure where the term came from but that's what it means.
I might actually google that. I'm curious now lol.

Edit: just read comment #14 by nastuug and now I don't need to google

Nastuug your getting an awesome from me