Your inventory is full.

Agobi · June 2015

2 things still amaze me with games like these...the fact that devs for some reason cant understand that annoying crap like this adds nothing but frustration to the game..

And that people actually defend this annoying crap tooth and nail

CriD · June 2015

Agobi, I am pretty sure the player base that knows how to manage inventory, knows what items are junk, and understands the need to go to town to repair, upgrade or swap out gear, and sell things...i think that playerbase far outweighs the ones who can't manage their inventory.

I'd rather have this then a weight limit. Yes it is frustrating. But if I really want to hoard I would make alts to hoard.

Please show me a game with never ending space for items? Is it a mmo? Does it use cheats?

I hope ZoS grants you few so much space so you can sit there for hours sorting through it.

Iluvrien · June 2015

Agobi wrote: »

2 things still amaze me with games like these...the fact that devs for some reason cant understand that annoying crap like this adds nothing but frustration to the game..

And that people actually defend this annoying crap tooth and nail

Perhaps the reason that people defend it is because they do think it adds something to the game apart from frustration?

...but, by all means, continue to provide the refutation to your argument in your own post in future, it saves time.

GoodFella146 · June 2015

Agobi wrote: »

2 things still amaze me with games like these...the fact that devs for some reason cant understand that annoying crap like this adds nothing but frustration to the game..

And that people actually defend this annoying crap tooth and nail

The ironic thing is that if bank upgrades weren't so expensive, I wouldn't have to have worried about this in the first place. Fortunately now this doesn't matter as I've gotten 10 for a guild, giving me access to FIVE HUNDRED slots. If I had to buy that, it would probably be 5396709345760934706973409670932476240956749207 gold.

I should've just worked harder on getting 10 ppl to guild, that was the mistake. Problem solved. //end thread

GoodFella146 · June 2015

Iluvrien wrote: »

Agobi wrote: »

2 things still amaze me with games like these...the fact that devs for some reason cant understand that annoying crap like this adds nothing but frustration to the game..

And that people actually defend this annoying crap tooth and nail

Perhaps the reason that people defend it is because they do think it adds something to the game apart from frustration?

...but, by all means, continue to provide the refutation to your argument in your own post in future, it saves time.

giving players little inventory adds something to the game... lol

think that's about it for me with this thread. cya everyone the problem is now solved anyway

Pizza_Magician · June 2015

Yes its a bit frustrating. I like to look in every basket and satchel. XBOX ONE does have family sharing of live accounts, so you just need to have your other 9 family members make ESO accounts and you can get your family bank.

QuadroTony · June 2015

GoodFella146 wrote: »

The ironic thing is that if bank upgrades weren't so expensive

the irony is its not expensive - you just a poor player who dont know how to get gold fast

Thalmont · June 2015

GoodFella146 wrote: »

Your inventory is full. Your inventory is full. Your inventory is full. Your inventory is full. Your inventory is full.

Your inventory is full. Your inventory is full. Your inventory is full. Your inventory is full. Your inventory is full.

Your inventory is full. Your inventory is full. Your inventory is full. Your inventory is full. Your inventory is full.

Hoarder alert! Become a miser. Money hoarding is so much better.

GoodFella146 · June 2015

QuadroTony wrote: »

GoodFella146 wrote: »

The ironic thing is that if bank upgrades weren't so expensive

the irony is its not expensive - you just a poor player who dont know how to get gold fast

10s of thousands of gold is expensive to start the game. really dumb post

Love_Chunks · June 2015

Why...? I cant even... this subject is over a year old and the tears have long since dried up. I know it sucks in the begining but you have to put in the time and earn your bag space. Stop begging for an easy button for everything.

lathbury · June 2015

or we could remove all the gold sinks from the game completely and watch as the crazy inflation means that all the things in trade guilds cost way more than your average starting player like yourself can get from quest rewards and mob loot. Putting you way behind the curve getting gear for trials trait research etc.

badmojo · June 2015

GoodFella146 wrote: »

Agobi wrote: »

2 things still amaze me with games like these...the fact that devs for some reason cant understand that annoying crap like this adds nothing but frustration to the game..

And that people actually defend this annoying crap tooth and nail

The ironic thing is that if bank upgrades weren't so expensive, I wouldn't have to have worried about this in the first place. Fortunately now this doesn't matter as I've gotten 10 for a guild, giving me access to FIVE HUNDRED slots. If I had to buy that, it would probably be 5396709345760934706973409670932476240956749207 gold.

I should've just worked harder on getting 10 ppl to guild, that was the mistake. Problem solved. //end thread

Bank upgrades are a waste of gold. If you insist on doing all the crafts at the same time, split the crafts up between your characters and upgrade all their bags. Not only does it help with bag space but also skill points. I have two guild banks to myself and I still leave most of my crafting materials in the associated crafters inventory. It's only enchanting and provisioning that go into the one bank. With my personal bank I've only got it up to about 110 slots and it's used for transferring stuff back and forth, as well as racial/trait stones which are needed for multiple crafts.

I found the key to not worrying about inventory was being able to drop your current characters inventory down to 10-20 items. If you're only getting it down to half a bag, you're going to have twice as much of a headache. Another thing to remember is you can hold as much gold as you want, keeping 5 swords or whatever for their traits WILL be more trouble than just selling them and buying one at a guild store when the time comes that you really need it. There's nothing wrong with being prepared, if you want to get a stockpile of traits to research, but when that means inventory troubles causing frustrating gameplay, you're only hurting yourself.

Gidorick · June 2015

MULES ARE NOT A SOLUTION TO INVENTORY!

Mules are exploiting the game design and should NOT have to be relied on.

TheUnshackled · June 2015

I was the same till i stopped carrying all my crafting stuff with me where is pack mule i mean lydia when you need her

Xendyn · June 2015

The_Sadist wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Talk about entitlement.

It seems the word entitlement is being thrown around like there's no tomorrow recently.

You're not entitled to a tomorrow

UTG_Zilla · June 2015

It's more immersive. Would you rather believe your character can hold 300lbs of items or just literally endless amounts. Here a hint at which you should want to believe while playing eso, mmoRPg

Gidorick · June 2015

UTG_Zilla wrote: »

It's more immersive. Would you rather believe your character can hold 300lbs of items or just literally endless amounts. Here a hint at which you should be want while playing eso, mmoRPg

You want Immersion?

BAM! http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/162693/more-bags-and-encumbrance-concepts/p1

UTG_Zilla · June 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

UTG_Zilla wrote: »

It's more immersive. Would you rather believe your character can hold 300lbs of items or just literally endless amounts. Here a hint at which you should be want while playing eso, mmoRPg

You want Immersion?

BAM! http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/162693/more-bags-and-encumbrance-concepts/p1

Read that and sorry but no thank you. I don't want eso to turn into heavily sided towards pay 2 play. It has a crown store now but you can make it to 1-vr14 with no difference from you to another player. It starts to get bad with one player can hold 10x what another can just because he can buy crowns (gold price or none). After that point, like every p2p game, eso will just the best purple/orange weapons/armor sets. That's the way it usually goes anyways and I would rather not even take that chance with a great game like eso. Stuff like that turns Great games into "[snip] seriously?" Games.

[edited for profanity bypass]

Gidorick · June 2015

UTG_Zilla wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

UTG_Zilla wrote: »

It's more immersive. Would you rather believe your character can hold 300lbs of items or just literally endless amounts. Here a hint at which you should be want while playing eso, mmoRPg

You want Immersion?

BAM! http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/162693/more-bags-and-encumbrance-concepts/p1

Read that and sorry but no thank you. I don't want eso to turn into heavily sided towards pay 2 play. It has a crown store now but you can make it to 1-vr14 with no difference from you to another player. It starts to get bad with one player can hold 10x what another can just because he can buy crowns (gold price or none). After that point, like every p2p game, eso will just the best purple/orange weapons/armor sets. That's the way it usually goes anyways and I would rather not even take that chance with a great game like eso. Stuff like that turns Great games into "[snip] seriously?" Games.

wait.... ESO WAS pay to play.. now it's buy to play. Do you mean pay to win?

If so... Bag space is pay to win? I just don't get these rules that you guys have made up in your head about what is pay to win and what isn't.

[edited for profanity bypass]

OzJohnD · June 2015

Too many sweet rolls ?

Faugaun · June 2015

@goodfella146 u checked the link?

Gidorick wrote: »

UTG_Zilla wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

UTG_Zilla wrote: »

It's more immersive. Would you rather believe your character can hold 300lbs of items or just literally endless amounts. Here a hint at which you should be want while playing eso, mmoRPg

You want Immersion?

BAM! http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/162693/more-bags-and-encumbrance-concepts/p1

Read that and sorry but no thank you. I don't want eso to turn into heavily sided towards pay 2 play. It has a crown store now but you can make it to 1-vr14 with no difference from you to another player. It starts to get bad with one player can hold 10x what another can just because he can buy crowns (gold price or none). After that point, like every p2p game, eso will just the best purple/orange weapons/armor sets. That's the way it usually goes anyways and I would rather not even take that chance with a great game like eso. Stuff like that turns Great games into "[snip] seriously?" Games.

wait.... ESO WAS pay to play.. now it's buy to play. Do you mean pay to win?

If so... Bag space is pay to win? I just don't get these rules that you guys have made up in your head about what is pay to win and what isn't.

I don't either and there is no consistancy...

[edited for profanity bypass]

UTG_Zilla · June 2015

Meant pay to win, my bad (I don't ever mess with either kind of games so yea...)

And as for not seeing how that changes the game...

- I have to go unload/bank after every x hours of quests/grind

--what? Seriously? I bought like 500 bag spaces and NEVER have to go back and unload and deal with all that. Not really a "win" as much as Like a sold armor set is. But it's a win nonetheless and what I said was...if it starts out small it's gonna end up big.

I played an mmo a few years ago that was b2p like eso is now. About 6-8mo after I started playing they switched to pay 2 win. Not 4 months after that they were selling purple recipes/materials for like 30/$10. Now is eso gonna be like that? Idk but I definitely do not even want to take that risk. I LOVE eso as it stands right now, +/- a few things. But more bag space to be sold for crowns? No thank you x 1,000,000,000.

Altho you specifically don't see more bag space as a win that doesn't mean others don't. And in a game where you're usually carrying like a half a bag in just equipment, yea, that's gonna add up as a win pretty fast for some.

UTG_Zilla · June 2015

More bag, more items to carry, less time going back to towns, more time grinding/making money, more time questing. More freedoms with items.

These aren't your standard wins but they would change the game. And if you look at past mmo's going pay to win, it doesn't end good most of the time.

And honestly the way I look at it, it's about keeping it all balanced in mmo's right? How's it balanced when someone can just buy everything they need with real currencies not in-game? I think that only vanity items should be sold for real currencies. Just because you have money doesn't mean you earned any of that gear. And it certainly doesn't mean you're that good if you didn't earn any of it.

That's just my 2 crowns about not giving 2 crowns for a bag. I've seen great mmo's start out with small sells but end up just literally selling out to the rich.

PBpsy · June 2015

UTG_Zilla wrote: »

It's more immersive. Would you rather believe your character can hold 300lbs of items or just literally endless amounts. Here a hint at which you should want to believe while playing eso, mmoRPg

The mershuns in that regard is already killed by the fact that you can carry 160 iron ingots on you and fight or 160X metal cuirass.So let's just forget about that mershun.

GoodFella146 · June 2015

Faugaun wrote: »

@goodfella146 u checked the link?

Yeah I looked at it. Honestly I don't even care about this anymore because gaining 500 inventory slots through a guild bank literally solved all my issues. Plus talking to the people who think no bank space "adds something to the game" is a complete waste of time. I think they are morons and no amount of discussion is going to change their mind. The thread was good in that it led me to really push for that 10th member, so all in all I'm very happy now.

Spottswoode · June 2015

If your here to complain about the lack of bag space, the line starts back there.

UTG_Zilla · June 2015

If bag space doesn't do anything for your gaming experience then restrict yourself to only 30 inventory slots. That's half the start amount but "it's just bag space" so it's not gonna make a difference right? I can tell you the answer now or you'll annoyingly fing out after having to unpack so many times you spend more time running to town than questing. Then you'll see how I feel about crown store bags.

Spottswoode · June 2015

UTG_Zilla wrote: »

It's more immersive. Would you rather believe your character can hold 300lbs of items or just literally endless amounts. Here a hint at which you should want to believe while playing eso, mmoRPg

My willing suspension of disbelief ended at shooting fire out of my hands. My annoyance began the moment I couldn't pick up a flower.

Crown store bags were destined as soon as the subscription requirement was dropped. The severely limited space is still the most persuasive argument that this game was designed for B2P from the start, IMHO.

badmojo · June 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

MULES ARE NOT A SOLUTION TO INVENTORY!

Mules are exploiting the game design and should NOT have to be relied on.

Of course mules are not a solution to inventory, there is no solution to inventory. Inventory is a deliberate obstacle put in the game for players to deal with in whatever way they decide. There's nothing stopping someone from sticking to only 1 character and still mastering all the crafts and playing the game to its full extent, they're just going to have to spend more time dealing with inventory.

Mules have never been considered exploiting by the developers. So if you really want to analyze it, mules seem to be an intended result of the games design. Why would our 8 characters share a bank if the burden of inventory wasn't also intended to be shared? It's the same with guild banks, they're intended to be used by players to store items.

UTG_Zilla · June 2015

Was designed, was, was. That's the past, we're in the now. Where eso is buy to play and shouldn't ever have to make another purchase (crown) to be the same level as another player who's been around as long as you have. If I understand Bethesdas or zen's logic on it.

And yea I obviously wasn't meaning totally immersive but it is still a role playing game. Do I someone's walk at an npc's paced through town/countryside? Yea sometimes when I'm bored and don't have official business going on, and I know I'm not the only one. I think it's a lil more immersive and lil more personal to have a carry/set limit than a be able to carry everything...thing..