Confirmed: No race change, no racial rebalancing, only "tweaks" to certain races

pecheckler · June 2015

I am an Imperial templar. I want to heal. I can't heal because I'm Imperial. I have to be Breton to heal. The difference in effectiveness is that of two full pieces of legendary gear.

Give me my race change option. I'll pay 2500 crowns.

Hypertionb14_ESO · June 2015

pecheckler wrote: »

I am an Imperial templar. I want to heal. I can't heal because I'm Imperial. I have to be Breton to heal. The difference in effectiveness is that of two full pieces of legendary gear.

Give me my race change option. I'll pay 2500 crowns.

im pretty sure its not that extreme. i have a Imperial Sorc mage and yes i notice the differance that a exact same setup can get with altmer, but i can still manage high DPS.... and Altmer is better than breton honestly... unless you intend to offtank?

anyways i would love to change that Imperial sorc to a Altmer.... it was fun as stam and was definitly top teir for stam DPS sorc... but as a mage its subpar.

Rylana · June 2015

I am legit tired of speculative posters and "news bloggers" using the word "confirmed" in any of their content.

You guys know exactly zero, now shut up.

pecheckler · June 2015

Rylana wrote: »

I am legit tired of speculative posters and "news bloggers" using the word "confirmed" in any of their content.

You guys know exactly zero, now shut up.

But it's all we have. Most games I play the developers clearly outline their 1 6 and 12 month goals for feature additions and changes and then actually communicate with players. Such things are very important for player retention and satisfaction.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · June 2015

You can get a race change right now. Reroll. Boom prob solved.

BigInGlenumbra · June 2015

Race change should not be allowed, even for crowns. It removes the huge impact of being a specific race. There do need to be body/face changes though

Kronosphere · June 2015

miked83b14_ESO wrote: »

I just want an in-game appearance change feature. Whether it's with Crowns or Gold I don't care.

race change to draugr bro its already in the game

Nénlindë · June 2015

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

You can get a race change right now. Reroll. Boom prob solved.

stahp

nimander99 · June 2015

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

This thread title is deliberately misleading, and frankly untrue. Please refrain from doing that. Seriously, rumor-mongering is not helpful to anyone.

To clarify, we have not said "No race change, no racial re-balancing." We have stated (both here on the forums and in ESO Live) that we are starting with small adjustments to existing racial passives, first.

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Muizer · June 2015

Wing wrote: »

Muizer wrote: »

I hope race change will never be an option. It's just too ridiculous to contemplate.

its in the lore dude, there are in game quests that deal with it, so obviously not "too ridiculous to contemplate"

I'm sorry. Let me rephrase that. It's too ridiculous to contemplate that race change will be turned into a commonplace thing. Just because there is precedent in the lore is not an argument to devote a game mechanism to it.

pecheckler wrote: »

I am an Imperial templar. I want to heal. I can't heal because I'm Imperial. I have to be Breton to heal. The difference in effectiveness is that of two full pieces of legendary gear.

Give me my race change option. I'll pay 2500 crowns.

You're not an Imperial templar. You have a character who is. If you feel you need to have a breton as a healer, roll another character. Choices have consequences. Deal with it.

That's what I'd say to someone who genuinly meant what you said. But you were being sarcastic, right? Please say you were!

mdhammond · June 2015

Jessica Folsom sounds hot

Rylana · June 2015

pecheckler wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I am legit tired of speculative posters and "news bloggers" using the word "confirmed" in any of their content.

You guys know exactly zero, now shut up.

But it's all we have. Most games I play the developers clearly outline their 1 6 and 12 month goals for feature additions and changes and then actually communicate with players. Such things are very important for player retention and satisfaction.

Supposition and speculation distract from reality as well as in many cases give false and misleading information.

They are useless. I want only the source material, and I can get that any time I want on their livestream and formal news sources

just because news doesnt come fast enough for some people, doesnt mean making things up that someone "thinks" might happen is warranted

OrphanHelgen · June 2015

The problem is the tooltips. When you make a character for the very first time, you had no clue what it ment. I made an orc, and all I saw was good in heavy armor.
15% more experienced with heavy armor have nothing to do with end game. All 3 armor types are level 50 when you are about veteran 3 or something, if you level it right.
The reason health regen isnt overpowered atm, is because the current meta have 1 or more healers in whatever group. So you will get a burst heal too 100% when you lost some health.

Stamina and magicka regen does not have a burst recovery other then shards, magicka orb, maybe heavy attacks or redguard passive etc.. Thats why those regeneration are more worth.

If you do content solo, or are a tank without healer, the health regen is really really good.

OrphanHelgen · June 2015

pecheckler wrote: »

I am an Imperial templar. I want to heal. I can't heal because I'm Imperial. I have to be Breton to heal. The difference in effectiveness is that of two full pieces of legendary gear.

Give me my race change option. I'll pay 2500 crowns.

Why do you need to be a breon to heal? the 3% reduce cost? You get that amount for investing 5 champion points or something. Health is good, too good.. stamina is good, you need it for break free and blocking even when you heal. A friend of mine is redguard healer, and you really notice bonus stamina as a magicka user as well.. But I didnt mean to lead this to negative, just wanted you to know that imperial healers can be really good, and no need to reroll because of that.

JediRift · June 2015

Nyghthowler wrote: »

I wish they would remove ALL racial passives; then the continual crying about nerf/buff/race change would stop.

No, that is a terrible option. Rift did this and it ruined the game for me. During beta it was awesome when my dwarf could cast a really small heal over time. On launch they entirely removed using any racials in pvp combat and it was a stupid decision. Not only that, but they changed the dwarf racial to be lowered fall damage instead??? That had me scratching my head. From a nice, useful racial that was on par with others, to the most useless racial in the game.

Racials add a lot of flavour. They need to keep them.

Furor · June 2015

HobnailedBoots wrote: »

It defeats the entire purpose of playing the game. If you can pay to change your race - why not make it so you can pay to skip 50 levels?

I have the goal of creating the ultimate character. Every skyshard, max every class ability (And BOTH of it's morphs), max every weapon skill line (And BOTH of it's morphs), every armor skill line, all the mages/fighters skill lines (And BOTH of their morphs).

I'm a Breton and it's fairly apparent that even with the Best In Slot Magic legendary gear setup I have, stamina is still a superior setup (For the moment).

I don't want to have to re-level another Nightblade just to have one who can be specced for a Stamina build simply to remain competitive.

Not to mention then I would have to split my pvp experience across two characters. Talk about a total nightmare.

Junkogen · June 2015

Rylana wrote: »

pecheckler wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I am legit tired of speculative posters and "news bloggers" using the word "confirmed" in any of their content.

You guys know exactly zero, now shut up.

But it's all we have. Most games I play the developers clearly outline their 1 6 and 12 month goals for feature additions and changes and then actually communicate with players. Such things are very important for player retention and satisfaction.

Supposition and speculation distract from reality as well as in many cases give false and misleading information.

They are useless. I want only the source material, and I can get that any time I want on their livestream and formal news sources

just because news doesnt come fast enough for some people, doesnt mean making things up that someone "thinks" might happen is warranted

I didn't make anything up, though. There are no race changes or rebalancing in the next major update. What's inaccurate about that?

Also, before they made I seem like they were going to include race change when they rebalance the racial passives. Now, that's no longer the case. Now, it's something they're still thinking about. To me, that's a change in their message on this issue.

Junkogen · June 2015

Furor wrote: »

HobnailedBoots wrote: »

It defeats the entire purpose of playing the game. If you can pay to change your race - why not make it so you can pay to skip 50 levels?

I have the goal of creating the ultimate character. Every skyshard, max every class ability (And BOTH of it's morphs), max every weapon skill line (And BOTH of it's morphs), every armor skill line, all the mages/fighters skill lines (And BOTH of their morphs).

I'm a Breton and it's fairly apparent that even with the Best In Slot Magic legendary gear setup I have, stamina is still a superior setup (For the moment).

I don't want to have to re-level another Nightblade simply to have one who can be specced for a Stamina build simply to remain competitive.

Not to mention then I would have to split my pvp experience across two characters. Talk about a total nightmare.

Thank you! You get it. It's a huge pain to have to do everything over. I don't get why people feel like we need to be punished for a choice we made in a game, in many cases, a year ago when the game launched.

The real issue for the people against it is that they don't want to lose their advantage. Why else would they be so against it? It in no way affects them. How would they even know if a character had once been some other race? There's really just no good argument against race change.

Junkogen · June 2015

JediRift wrote: »

Nyghthowler wrote: »

I wish they would remove ALL racial passives; then the continual crying about nerf/buff/race change would stop.

they entirely removed using any racials in pvp combat and it was a stupid decision. Not only that, but they changed the dwarf racial to be lowered fall damage instead??? That had me scratching my head. From a nice, useful racial that was on par with others, to the most useless racial in the game.

You essentially described the entire Argonian problem. That's exactly what ZOS did to us, but they then also removed soft caps to add insult to injury.

Junkogen · June 2015

So ZOS has decided to bury my topic by not allowing it to bump to the front page after someone posts. Is this thread really such a PR nightmare or is my assessment of the situation corrrect?! The latest comments are a departure from what we were told before. My conclusions were correct! It is a flip-flop!

Way to be passive aggressive, ZOS. Well played. Well played, indeed. This isn't over, though. History will avenge me!

Dixa · June 2015

Junkogen wrote: »

So ZOS has decided to bury my topic by not allowing it to bump to the front page after someone posts. Is this thread really such a PR nightmare or is my assessment of the situation corrrect?! The latest comments are a departure from what we were told before. My conclusions were correct! It is a flip-flop!

Way to be passive aggressive, ZOS. Well played. Well played, indeed. This isn't over, though. History will avenge me!

i'm not sure if serious at this point or trolling now. no reasonable human being would think that these mods care that much about someone clearly using this forum as a resume for their application to Fox News

Kerioko · June 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

ZOS said that they will make small gradual changes and adjustments.We know however a bit about the history of the game and how ZOS makes gradual adjustments that strive to not destroy play styles and such.We therefore know that this means, that soon argonians will be the most OP race in the game.They will not be argonians anymore though but flying unicorns from outer space and will be able to summon Molag Bal to do their bidding.

I doubt they will become flying unicorns or be able to summon Molag Bal. However......

Who is to say that Argonians don't become some crazy reincarnation of Molag Bal.....

Introducing the new passives:

- Restoration Expert: Argonians receive all major and minor buffs when consuming a crown store potion.

- Amphibious: Agonians receive 500% boost to swim speed and ignore all damage taken while swimming...including Slaughterfish damage.

- Argonian Resistance: When hit with Jesus Beam, Argonian fragments into smaller pieces blasting caster into the air and backwards for 1 million fall damage.

- Quick to mend: At 50% health, Argonian vanishes from sight to recover health while summoning an army of Daedric Titans to rampage his enemy.