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  • Tonnopesce
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    DIENASTY9 wrote: »
    A friend of mine use the 2handed in his buff skill bar only to use the rally because even if you have acces to the vigor most of the times is not enought, think of it rally + skills + rolldoge +vigor? All of this use stamina and most of the times you cannot cast a vigor so for a stamina build the 2handed as a second weapon is the best choice.
    Do a build and hoping that someday maybe you will use the vigor in it and till then just dont try to find another solution is a little bit lazy (on my templar i was using the ultimate of the restoring light line before taking the dwemer set)

    A quick solution for you is use the "soul shred" morph that heals as a HOT the refreshing path and siphoning strikes , you will do a little less dmg but you will survive a little more

    this is exactly the problem, i dont want to run around with a sword as big as i am. rally is very nice, but honestly, i would lose all interest if i stacked 2h with rally and vigor. that would be as close to god mode as a nb can get, and im not looking for that. i simply want a solid heal i can use on my dw bars, s,s/d,d swords for damage and range, daggers as crit and buffs for opening with stealth ect.

    I quote for you the truth...
    Tors wrote: »
    Weapon Swap
    Heal
    Weapon Swap



    Ahhh sorry, I see what you want.

    You want AWESOME MELE DPS AND You want AWESOME RANGED DPS and You want AWESOME MOBILITY and You want AWESOME SURVIVABILITY and You want AWESOME HEALS


    You looked over your garden fence and saw a Sorc doing all this. What you failed to understand is that he cant do it all at once, he needs to choose what he wants to be strong in and what he is willing to have lesser powered.

    So this man in his madness (later on) has exactly told the truth... Except for the sorcerer part

    Well if you want all the benefits and no disadvantage just work for it. Or you come up with a compromise and use 2h on your 2nd bar till you have reaced the vigor.

    And belive me god mode does not exist, a magika NB can easy kill a stamina NB: cloak + fear + dmg. Repeat till he has finished the stamina , easy as pie

    Edited by Tonnopesce on June 24, 2015 12:27PM
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  • DIENASTY9
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    DIENASTY9 wrote: »
    A friend of mine use the 2handed in his buff skill bar only to use the rally because even if you have acces to the vigor most of the times is not enought, think of it rally + skills + rolldoge +vigor? All of this use stamina and most of the times you cannot cast a vigor so for a stamina build the 2handed as a second weapon is the best choice.
    Do a build and hoping that someday maybe you will use the vigor in it and till then just dont try to find another solution is a little bit lazy (on my templar i was using the ultimate of the restoring light line before taking the dwemer set)

    A quick solution for you is use the "soul shred" morph that heals as a HOT the refreshing path and siphoning strikes , you will do a little less dmg but you will survive a little more

    this is exactly the problem, i dont want to run around with a sword as big as i am. rally is very nice, but honestly, i would lose all interest if i stacked 2h with rally and vigor. that would be as close to god mode as a nb can get, and im not looking for that. i simply want a solid heal i can use on my dw bars, s,s/d,d swords for damage and range, daggers as crit and buffs for opening with stealth ect.

    I quote for you the truth...
    Tors wrote: »
    Weapon Swap
    Heal
    Weapon Swap



    Ahhh sorry, I see what you want.

    You want AWESOME MELE DPS AND You want AWESOME RANGED DPS and You want AWESOME MOBILITY and You want AWESOME SURVIVABILITY and You want AWESOME HEALS


    You looked over your garden fence and saw a Sorc doing all this. What you failed to understand is that he cant do it all at once, he needs to choose what he wants to be strong in and what he is willing to have lesser powered.

    So this man in his madness (later on) has exactly told the truth... Except for the sorcerer part

    Well if you want all the benefits and no disadvantage just work for it. Or you come up with a compromise and use 2h on your 2 bar till you have reaced the vigor.

    And belive god mode does not exist, a magika NB can easy kill a stamina NB: cloack + fear + dmg. Repeat till he has finished the stamina , easy as pie

    i dont though. everyone thinks i want god mode. no, i want options like a temp or dk has. i dont use the cookie cutter best builds to destroy everyone. a challenge is fun, but no viable heal on a dw nb is silly. this is not saying everyone is like me, because clearly people are imbeciles and use the best builds just to wreck. thats why nerfing vigor is ok with me, i simply want a heal. a heal that does not get me killed, but helps me as intended.
    "Tryn'a be a gentleman of sorts, tryn'a be a better man, of course"

    welshassassin1987 (in regards to console community) : "Except the guy who continued to follow me around making chicken noises till I logged out. Or the one who shouts abuse because you didn't heal him when your not even a healer. Or the one that thinks everyone in Tamriel wants to here Gangsta Rap. I could go on. No doubt there are some decent folk out there, sadly not seeing them around at the moment."
  • Tonnopesce
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    You dont need to use the fotm build, hell no.

    You avoid to use wrecking blow, EVRY stamina user in the game is using and spamming it right now so if you do this, you will be already different from the others.

    A buff bar is something evryone have and it is no shame on using a combo that sombody else have, we already know that little snowflakes have a hard time in this game.
    Edited by Tonnopesce on June 24, 2015 12:36PM
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  • Tonnopesce
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    And plzzzzzz tell me wich options have a stamina templar....
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  • DIENASTY9
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    You dont need to use the fotm build, hell no.

    You avoid to use wrecking blow, EVRY stamina user in the game is doing it right now so if you do this, you will be already different from the others.

    A buff bar is something evryone have and it is no shame on using a combo that sombody else have, we already know that little snowflakes have a hard time in this game.

    not sure if compliment, matter of fact, or insult. i will take the second option for my response.

    i have a buff bar. i use that baby, but its a buff bar, not a heal bar. for my class choice heals that actually help in the long run dont exist. thats all im saying. dw has no burst heal, nor does any nb skill. so im left with vigor. making it a necessity to my build and that takes us back to the op, when is the level change happening? not how balanced it is, or what elites think, or why its a bad idea. i only asked for time frame and i get the flamers. typical interwebs.
    "Tryn'a be a gentleman of sorts, tryn'a be a better man, of course"

    welshassassin1987 (in regards to console community) : "Except the guy who continued to follow me around making chicken noises till I logged out. Or the one who shouts abuse because you didn't heal him when your not even a healer. Or the one that thinks everyone in Tamriel wants to here Gangsta Rap. I could go on. No doubt there are some decent folk out there, sadly not seeing them around at the moment."
  • Tonnopesce
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    DIENASTY9 wrote: »
    You dont need to use the fotm build, hell no.

    You avoid to use wrecking blow, EVRY stamina user in the game is doing it right now so if you do this, you will be already different from the others.

    A buff bar is something evryone have and it is no shame on using a combo that sombody else have, we already know that little snowflakes have a hard time in this game.

    not sure if compliment, matter of fact, or insult. i will take the second option for my response.

    i have a buff bar. i use that baby, but its a buff bar, not a heal bar. for my class choice heals that actually help in the long run dont exist. thats all im saying. dw has no burst heal, nor does any nb skill. so im left with vigor. making it a necessity to my build and that takes us back to the op, when is the level change happening? not how balanced it is, or what elites think, or why its a bad idea. i only asked for time frame and i get the flamers. typical interwebs.


    Watch this

    https://youtu.be/K8Q479OcnUc

    Best stamina nightblade imho you can learn a lot from him ( he is really a little snowflake but maybe the best little snowflake)

    From me you will have options and facts no flamming here
    Edited by Tonnopesce on June 24, 2015 12:45PM
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  • DIENASTY9
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    DIENASTY9 wrote: »
    You dont need to use the fotm build, hell no.

    You avoid to use wrecking blow, EVRY stamina user in the game is doing it right now so if you do this, you will be already different from the others.

    A buff bar is something evryone have and it is no shame on using a combo that sombody else have, we already know that little snowflakes have a hard time in this game.

    not sure if compliment, matter of fact, or insult. i will take the second option for my response.

    i have a buff bar. i use that baby, but its a buff bar, not a heal bar. for my class choice heals that actually help in the long run dont exist. thats all im saying. dw has no burst heal, nor does any nb skill. so im left with vigor. making it a necessity to my build and that takes us back to the op, when is the level change happening? not how balanced it is, or what elites think, or why its a bad idea. i only asked for time frame and i get the flamers. typical interwebs.


    Watch this

    https://youtu.be/K8Q479OcnUc

    Best stamina nightblade imho you can learn a lot from him ( he is really a little snowflake but maybe the best little snowflake)

    From me you will have options and facts no flamming here

    I have taken groups of 3 and even four guys by myself before. I have stated this char is now vet five. My stats are not perfect, and my gear is 9 levels under his. Theres no way to compete. Nor do i have the time to get that skilled. I have seen all these videos.

    LOL HE HAS VIGOR ON HIS BAR IM DONE HERE
    Edited by DIENASTY9 on June 24, 2015 10:33PM
    "Tryn'a be a gentleman of sorts, tryn'a be a better man, of course"

    welshassassin1987 (in regards to console community) : "Except the guy who continued to follow me around making chicken noises till I logged out. Or the one who shouts abuse because you didn't heal him when your not even a healer. Or the one that thinks everyone in Tamriel wants to here Gangsta Rap. I could go on. No doubt there are some decent folk out there, sadly not seeing them around at the moment."
  • GNRNCSBLSS
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    DIENASTY9 wrote: »
    while playing for a good while ith the build i know it is supposed to have strengths and weaknesses, the issue is the zerg type pvp. you dont understand that the ap and leveling comes from zerging. in order to be of any use in a zerg you cant die in three seconds. and i dont think its very wise that i be subjected to ganking as the ap drops tremendously. if the game was even across all forms of gameplay i would not give a poop about a burst heal. but its not even. and even when you attempt a stun/gank i have seen people heal through two stam nbs putting in work. any points you have are invalid simply because ihave to zerg in order to get ap and level. and who in their right mind wants to gank till level 10 on assault?

    are you completely insane ?

    #ihazfaithinmagickadk? really? point proven. your own signature explains why you are against us getting a solid heal, GDB lololol ok buddy. im afraid your simply a troll or trying to recruit me for YOUR comedy club


    I quoted bad... The Tors comment was hilarious, btw fixed.
    If you had read my signature i have even a templar, i go full stamina with it and i have your same issue but my playstile is different from the zerg , i run most of the time solo.
    When i fight more than two opponents i will be shitting in my pants without the dwemer undaunted set.
    So no i dont want the vigor at rank 5 not because i have a dk but because ap can be farmed really easy .

    On a side note, i do 40-50 k ap a day ganking.... Eventually in 1-2 months from now i will have acces to the vigor (A good reward as a dedicated pvp player) Your move now!

    I know this is an old post, but your math is so bad, so, so, so bad. Even at 50k ap a day, it will take you, at the minimum, more than four and a half months to get vigor, which would mean about 2-3 hours of solid ap gains in cyrodiil every single night for 138 days. Try again.
  • DisgracefulMind
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    Wait, wait, wait, are you seriously in here crying about being forced into using a weapon to heal yourself? xD
    I don't think Vigor should be given to rank 5 unless it's taken down a few notches. We don't need this skill ruining the need for healers in PvE, and we certainly don't need immortal noobs running around.
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  • DisgracefulMind
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    hamgatan wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Garion wrote: »
    I love how people constantly claim stam nb is OP yet all I ever hear in game is that if you cant 1vX then you suck and Stam nb cant 1vX.

    So which is it?

    Stam nb only feels OP in specific circumstances.

    Also...back on point...there are other classes that run stamina builds and would like a reasonably achievable Vigor.

    Im already at rank 9 and having slowly gotten here I still want to cry thinking about the remaining 2 million AP I need.

    Guess I better equip a restoration staff and zerg.

    If you can't 1vX with a stamina NB you are doing it wrong.
    Stamina NB 1vX? Roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll.

    And keep rolling!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtwJvgPJ9xw

    I'm not sure why, but I laughed way too incredibly hard.
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  • JacksonCarter13
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    keep vigor at 10.... im a stam nb and dont have it yet. almost there. There really shouldnt be a bunch more stam nb running around with vigor...
  • BuggeX
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    keep vigor at 10.... im a stam nb and dont have it yet. almost there. There really shouldnt be a bunch more stam nb running around with vigor...

    Agree, dont like stam NB with vigor, just a waste of time to whipe them for 3mins until they run out of stam from roll/vigor spam :(
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