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any word on next patch? (vigor rank 5) @ZOS
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DIENASTY9✭✭✭AlienDiplomat wrote: »PVE people wants Vigor nerfed to alliance lvl 5.... Can PvP people get then the Undaunted pasives to lvl 3 too?
This post makes me laugh. Most of the posts in this thread, in fact.
This whole discussion is a perfect example of the "I only want it because others can't have it" elitism that defines our simplistic "us vs. them" cookie jar psychology as a species.
That, or we are sick of ZOS and their casual catering, which in turn makes PvP have zero reward past a certain point...
That, ooor you guys don't understand what a job is, or children, time management lol. I got a very concise picture of your personal life through that statement. If leaderboards, alliance standing, and the overall teamwork theme of this pvp is not enough to keep you playing, im sorry, but you clearly are an elitist."Tryn'a be a gentleman of sorts, tryn'a be a better man, of course"
welshassassin1987 (in regards to console community) : "Except the guy who continued to follow me around making chicken noises till I logged out. Or the one who shouts abuse because you didn't heal him when your not even a healer. Or the one that thinks everyone in Tamriel wants to here Gangsta Rap. I could go on. No doubt there are some decent folk out there, sadly not seeing them around at the moment."1 -
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No. Because you can get Undaunted level 9 in a month of doing casual 30-minute pledge runs, while you won't be able to achieve Assault/Support level 10 in PvP during the same time or even running 6h per day while leeching AP. The math for that was done already, no need to repeat it all over again.PVE people wants Vigor nerfed to alliance lvl 5.... Can PvP people get then the Undaunted pasives to lvl 3 too?0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AlienDiplomat wrote: »PVE people wants Vigor nerfed to alliance lvl 5.... Can PvP people get then the Undaunted pasives to lvl 3 too?
This post makes me laugh. Most of the posts in this thread, in fact.
This whole discussion is a perfect example of the "I only want it because others can't have it" elitism that defines our simplistic "us vs. them" cookie jar psychology as a species.
That, or we are sick of ZOS and their casual catering, which in turn makes PvP have zero reward past a certain point...
That, ooor you guys don't understand what a job is, or children, time management lol. I got a very concise picture of your personal life through that statement. If leaderboards, alliance standing, and the overall teamwork theme of this pvp is not enough to keep you playing, im sorry, but you clearly are an elitist.
I feel as if you need to go watch a few basic guide builds videos, stamina nightblades... can 1vx.
I'm a stamina based character myself, yet i don't feel the need for every character to have easy access to a good heal.
Just dodge more, use pots, nightblades die 'easy' but really should dodge the majority of hits.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
DIENASTY9✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »AlienDiplomat wrote: »PVE people wants Vigor nerfed to alliance lvl 5.... Can PvP people get then the Undaunted pasives to lvl 3 too?
This post makes me laugh. Most of the posts in this thread, in fact.
This whole discussion is a perfect example of the "I only want it because others can't have it" elitism that defines our simplistic "us vs. them" cookie jar psychology as a species.
That, or we are sick of ZOS and their casual catering, which in turn makes PvP have zero reward past a certain point...
That, ooor you guys don't understand what a job is, or children, time management lol. I got a very concise picture of your personal life through that statement. If leaderboards, alliance standing, and the overall teamwork theme of this pvp is not enough to keep you playing, im sorry, but you clearly are an elitist.
I feel as if you need to go watch a few basic guide builds videos, stamina nightblades... can 1vx.
I'm a stamina based character myself, yet i don't feel the need for every character to have easy access to a good heal.
Just dodge more, use pots, nightblades die 'easy' but really should dodge the majority of hits.
Im truly afraid you're illiterate...i quite plainly stated that i can solo and even double or tripple down groups. Your telling a guy who has spent a YEAR building around this class. The only drawbacks im having are fitting into the zerg gameplay that is so clearly a necessity, and this charecter is vet four 4 fouuuur. and no, im not wasting enchantment slots on potion cooldown. No other class has to do that, and it gets hard to avoid all aoe attacks when its 30-50 vs 30-50.
You guys amaze me with the rationale here.Edited by DIENASTY9 on June 23, 2015 2:56AM"Tryn'a be a gentleman of sorts, tryn'a be a better man, of course"
welshassassin1987 (in regards to console community) : "Except the guy who continued to follow me around making chicken noises till I logged out. Or the one who shouts abuse because you didn't heal him when your not even a healer. Or the one that thinks everyone in Tamriel wants to here Gangsta Rap. I could go on. No doubt there are some decent folk out there, sadly not seeing them around at the moment."1 -
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✭timidobserver wrote: »I think that it is a shame to removed the only high end PvP awards because pvers feel left out.
On the other hand, I've lost count of the number of times several classes and skills have been nerfed across the board for everyone because of PvP whines.2 -
DIENASTY9✭✭✭Im done arguing with the wannabe game masters. This title says @zos and i was clear its about and upcoming change that has been confirmed. This is not a "what do you think" post. Nor is it a whine thread. I was hoping to hear from @ZOS for and answer of sorts.
TL;DR, many whiners on a post putting in their two cents when no one really cares, nor was it asked for. Also directed at zos, not elitists and whiners. This was intended as a wuestion and answer type thread myabe two or three simple posts, not oh hey theres a slight chance people will get a good skill? NOO MUST SHOOT IT DOWN AND DO ALL IN MY POWER TO STOP THIS TREACHERY."Tryn'a be a gentleman of sorts, tryn'a be a better man, of course"
welshassassin1987 (in regards to console community) : "Except the guy who continued to follow me around making chicken noises till I logged out. Or the one who shouts abuse because you didn't heal him when your not even a healer. Or the one that thinks everyone in Tamriel wants to here Gangsta Rap. I could go on. No doubt there are some decent folk out there, sadly not seeing them around at the moment."0 -
hamgatan✭✭✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »
Stamina NB 1vX? Roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll.olemanwinter wrote: »I love how people constantly claim stam nb is OP yet all I ever hear in game is that if you cant 1vX then you suck and Stam nb cant 1vX.
So which is it?
Stam nb only feels OP in specific circumstances.
Also...back on point...there are other classes that run stamina builds and would like a reasonably achievable Vigor.
Im already at rank 9 and having slowly gotten here I still want to cry thinking about the remaining 2 million AP I need.
Guess I better equip a restoration staff and zerg.
If you can't 1vX with a stamina NB you are doing it wrong.
And keep rolling!
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L50 Altmer MagBlade (US/AD) "Never Goanna Heal You Up"
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L50 Argonian MagPlar (US/EP) "Smothers-With-Pillows" - The Battery Healer
L50 Orc StamSorc PvE DPS (US/AD) "Fraggle Proc"
L50 Argonian StamPlar (US/EP) "The Rusty Argonian Spade"
L20 Redguard MagBlade Bomber (US/AD) "Sneak Dogg"
L40 Orc StamDen PvE DPS (US/EP) "Fugly Betty"
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L10 Argonian Templar (US/EP) "Makes-Me-Moist"
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L27 Altmer MagSorc (US/EP) "Sorcie McSorcface"
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lathbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭eric wroble is on the next eso live mate he's the pvp head honcho so expect to know then. I wouldn't expect an answer here ZOS has stopped all communication with players as they have our money now.Edited by lathbury on June 23, 2015 7:57AM0 -
DIENASTY9✭✭✭eric wroble is on the next eso live mate he's the pvp head honcho so expect to know then. I wouldn't expect an answer here ZOS has stopped all communication with players as they have our money now.
Bruh i know it seems like that is the case. I dont really appreciate the lack of communication from devs as a whole. I onew it was far fetched to begin with but eh. I wnjoy the game"Tryn'a be a gentleman of sorts, tryn'a be a better man, of course"
welshassassin1987 (in regards to console community) : "Except the guy who continued to follow me around making chicken noises till I logged out. Or the one who shouts abuse because you didn't heal him when your not even a healer. Or the one that thinks everyone in Tamriel wants to here Gangsta Rap. I could go on. No doubt there are some decent folk out there, sadly not seeing them around at the moment."0 -
Tors✭✭✭✭✭Weapon Swap
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Weapon Swap
Ahhh sorry, I see what you want.
You want AWESOME MELE DPS AND You want AWESOME RANGED DPS and You want AWESOME MOBILITY and You want AWESOME SURVIVABILITY and You want AWESOME HEALS
You looked over your garden fence and saw a Sorc doing all this. What you failed to understand is that he cant do it all at once, he needs to choose what he wants to be strong in and what he is willing to have lesser powered.Better late Than Pregnant....
The shadow cabinet, a group of people who pretend to have jobs they do not actually have
EU PC - Azura's Star
Decimation Elite - Raid Jester0 -
Tors✭✭✭✭✭Weapon Swap
Heal
Weapon Swap
Ahhh sorry, I see what you want.
You want AWESOME MELE DPS AND You want AWESOME RANGED DPS and You want AWESOME MOBILITY and You want AWESOME SURVIVABILITY and You want AWESOME HEALS
You looked over your garden fence and saw a Sorc doing all this. What you failed to understand is that he cant do it all at once, he needs to choose what he wants to be strong in and what he is willing to have lesser powered.
Yeah, but Templars can do all this!! So what gives?Better late Than Pregnant....
The shadow cabinet, a group of people who pretend to have jobs they do not actually have
EU PC - Azura's Star
Decimation Elite - Raid Jester2 -
Tors✭✭✭✭✭Weapon Swap
Heal
Weapon Swap
Ahhh sorry, I see what you want.
You want AWESOME MELE DPS AND You want AWESOME RANGED DPS and You want AWESOME MOBILITY and You want AWESOME SURVIVABILITY and You want AWESOME HEALS
You looked over your garden fence and saw a Sorc doing all this. What you failed to understand is that he cant do it all at once, he needs to choose what he wants to be strong in and what he is willing to have lesser powered.
Yeah, but Templars can do all this!! So what gives?
Eventually, and with much yellowing of armour and championing of points, yes, but then so can ALL characters.
Better late Than Pregnant....
The shadow cabinet, a group of people who pretend to have jobs they do not actually have
EU PC - Azura's Star
Decimation Elite - Raid Jester0 -
Tors✭✭✭✭✭Weapon Swap
Heal
Weapon Swap
Ahhh sorry, I see what you want.
You want AWESOME MELE DPS AND You want AWESOME RANGED DPS and You want AWESOME MOBILITY and You want AWESOME SURVIVABILITY and You want AWESOME HEALS
You looked over your garden fence and saw a Sorc doing all this. What you failed to understand is that he cant do it all at once, he needs to choose what he wants to be strong in and what he is willing to have lesser powered.
Yeah, but Templars can do all this!! So what gives?
Eventually, and with much yellowing of armour and championing of points, yes, but then so can ALL characters.
Unless you want to snipe AND gank of course
Better late Than Pregnant....
The shadow cabinet, a group of people who pretend to have jobs they do not actually have
EU PC - Azura's Star
Decimation Elite - Raid Jester0 -
Tors✭✭✭✭✭Weapon Swap
Heal
Weapon Swap
Ahhh sorry, I see what you want.
You want AWESOME MELE DPS AND You want AWESOME RANGED DPS and You want AWESOME MOBILITY and You want AWESOME SURVIVABILITY and You want AWESOME HEALS
You looked over your garden fence and saw a Sorc doing all this. What you failed to understand is that he cant do it all at once, he needs to choose what he wants to be strong in and what he is willing to have lesser powered.
Yeah, but Templars can do all this!! So what gives?
Eventually, and with much yellowing of armour and championing of points, yes, but then so can ALL characters.
Unless you want to snipe AND gank of course
Indeed Tors, you are wiseBetter late Than Pregnant....
The shadow cabinet, a group of people who pretend to have jobs they do not actually have
EU PC - Azura's Star
Decimation Elite - Raid Jester0 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Umm lol? Do you talk to your self? You need help? :PI'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.0 -
Johngo0036✭✭✭✭✭Stamina NB the worst class? well....
im done here
edit: 18k Stamina on a "Stamina NB"
even my Magica DK has more lol
LMFAO - then your setup is wrong,
Stamina NB's ARE OP.....
I love playing on my OP Stamina NB,
I think keep vigor to level 10 allliance war,
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Etaniel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lol at everyone thinking this was a suggestion, no its been "confirmed". Frankly, i would have been ok with level 7 for max skills, same with undaunted. Past that gets kind of ridiculous. You complain about my doge rolling, when all i ever see is sorc/ dk spamming aoe. I have 18k stam in my pool compared to infinite aoe seige and your thirty sorc dk magicka aoe pools. I deserve ONE heal. You try running off of degeneration or leeching strikes, even stacked together with the ritual mundus and swallow soul slotted you get destroyed. I think you all need to realize that stamina nightbladea are the WORST class in the game. We can gank a solo or or two, sure but we have no survivability what so ever, even a healer cant keep me up i beed one or two when you are all spamming aoe and your dragon wing feet. Its silly that your all complaining about a single heal, when you have plenty. Trying to keep the worst class option down simply to make your lives easier:,)
You should start a comedy club, that post made me have stomach pains from all the laughter1 -
BuggeX✭✭✭✭✭
✭Johngo0036 wrote: »
Na my Build is perfect 28k Magica 27khp 18k Stamina.
@DIENASTY9 i would like to know on wich Server you Play, NA or EU? and wich Camp you prefer to Play in..... ohh and need to know wich Alliance, and your Name....
Free Ap is allways good
..... L2PYou want AWESOME MELE DPS AND You want AWESOME RANGED DPS and You want AWESOME MOBILITY and You want AWESOME SURVIVABILITY and You want AWESOME HEALS
Sorc doesnt have Meele Dps DK Doesnt have mobility also Temp not, NB doesnt have Heal but survivabilty. anything is balanced there.
Btw nb can stack up to 50% doge no Need to heal lol Edited by BuggeX on June 24, 2015 9:40AM#makemagickadkgreataigan
#givemeaexecute
#ineedheal
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lathbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭Johngo0036 wrote: »
Na my Build is perfect 28k Magica 27khp 18k Stamina.
@DIENASTY9 i would like to know on wich Server you Play, NA or EU? and wich Camp you prefer to Play in..... ohh and need to know wich Alliance, and your Name....
Free Ap is allways good ..... L2PYou want AWESOME MELE DPS AND You want AWESOME RANGED DPS and You want AWESOME MOBILITY and You want AWESOME SURVIVABILITY and You want AWESOME HEALS
Sorc doesnt have Meele Dps DK Doesnt have mobility also Temp not, NB doesnt have Heal but survivabilty. anything is balanced there.
Btw nb can stack up to 50% doge no Need to heal lol
pretty sure through testing mine and others dodge doesn't stack even a dev said it in fact1 -
Tonnopesce✭✭✭✭✭
✭Weapon Swap
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Ahhh sorry, I see what you want.
You want AWESOME MELE DPS AND You want AWESOME RANGED DPS and You want AWESOME MOBILITY and You want AWESOME SURVIVABILITY and You want AWESOME HEALS
You looked over your garden fence and saw a Sorc doing all this. What you failed to understand is that he cant do it all at once, he needs to choose what he wants to be strong in and what he is willing to have lesser powered.
Yeah, but Templars can do all this!! So what gives?
Eventually, and with much yellowing of armour and championing of points, yes, but then so can ALL characters.
Unless you want to snipe AND gank of course
Indeed Tors, you are wise
Well... This is hilarious +1 mate LOL
Edited by Tonnopesce on June 24, 2015 10:56AMSignature0 -
DIENASTY9✭✭✭while playing for a good while ith the build i know it is supposed to have strengths and weaknesses, the issue is the zerg type pvp. you dont understand that the ap and leveling comes from zerging. in order to be of any use in a zerg you cant die in three seconds. and i dont think its very wise that i be subjected to ganking as the ap drops tremendously. if the game was even across all forms of gameplay i would not give a poop about a burst heal. but its not even. and even when you attempt a stun/gank i have seen people heal through two stam nbs putting in work. any points you have are invalid simply because ihave to zerg in order to get ap and level. and who in their right mind wants to gank till level 10 on assault?
are you completely insane ?
#ihazfaithinmagickadk? really? point proven. your own signature explains why you are against us getting a solid heal, GDB lololol ok buddy. im afraid your simply a troll or trying to recruit me for YOUR comedy clubEdited by DIENASTY9 on June 24, 2015 10:52AM"Tryn'a be a gentleman of sorts, tryn'a be a better man, of course"
welshassassin1987 (in regards to console community) : "Except the guy who continued to follow me around making chicken noises till I logged out. Or the one who shouts abuse because you didn't heal him when your not even a healer. Or the one that thinks everyone in Tamriel wants to here Gangsta Rap. I could go on. No doubt there are some decent folk out there, sadly not seeing them around at the moment."0 -
Frawr✭✭✭✭✭while playing for a good while ith the build i know it is supposed to have strengths and weaknesses, the issue is the zerg type pvp. you dont understand that the ap and leveling comes from zerging. in order to be of any use in a zerg you cant die in three seconds. and i dont think its very wise that i be subjected to ganking as the ap drops tremendously. if the game was even across all forms of gameplay i would not give a poop about a burst heal. but its not even. and even when you attempt a stun/gank i have seen people heal through two stam nbs putting in work. any points you have are invalid simply because ihave to zerg in order to get ap and level. and who in their right mind wants to gank till level 10 on assault?
are you completely insane ?
The strength of the nightblade is super high (stupidly high) burst damage and the ability to avoid damage by rolling around. If you cannot do this then you need to choose more suitable gear. It is quite straight forward to be successful even as a casual with a family.
Giving a class with super high burst dps, and endless dodge, a strong and spamable heal is stupid. Creating the skill in the first place was silly. Now giving it to the vast majority of the population is just plain foolish.
I understand from your post that you want the heal so that you can do crazy tornado damage in a zerg while also healing everyone constantly with vigor (now!) I can completely understand why you would want that. It is, arguably, what's called 'god mode'. It should absolutely never exist.
Qudos to the raid trains who do it so very successfully in EU. Use of the skills in a fantastic synergy. Very hard to kill them.
This is why rock-paper-scissors is a necessity in these types of games (rather than rockANDpaperANDscissors for each class in ESO).
This game is shortly to be Elder NBs Online as can be seen by a trip thought the low level areas.Edited by Frawr on June 24, 2015 11:05AM0 -
Tonnopesce✭✭✭✭✭
✭while playing for a good while ith the build i know it is supposed to have strengths and weaknesses, the issue is the zerg type pvp. you dont understand that the ap and leveling comes from zerging. in order to be of any use in a zerg you cant die in three seconds. and i dont think its very wise that i be subjected to ganking as the ap drops tremendously. if the game was even across all forms of gameplay i would not give a poop about a burst heal. but its not even. and even when you attempt a stun/gank i have seen people heal through two stam nbs putting in work. any points you have are invalid simply because ihave to zerg in order to get ap and level. and who in their right mind wants to gank till level 10 on assault?
are you completely insane ?
#ihazfaithinmagickadk? really? point proven. your own signature explains why you are against us getting a solid heal, GDB lololol ok buddy. im afraid your simply a troll or trying to recruit me for YOUR comedy club
I quoted bad... The Tors comment was hilarious, btw fixed.
If you had read my signature i have even a templar, i go full stamina with it and i have your same issue but my playstile is different from the zerg , i run most of the time solo.
When i fight more than two opponents i will be shitting in my pants without the dwemer undaunted set.
So no i dont want the vigor at rank 5 not because i have a dk but because ap can be farmed really easy .
On a side note, i do 40-50 k ap a day ganking.... Eventually in 1-2 months from now i will have acces to the vigor (A good reward as a dedicated pvp player) Your move now!Edited by Tonnopesce on June 24, 2015 11:09AMSignature0 -
DIENASTY9✭✭✭while playing for a good while ith the build i know it is supposed to have strengths and weaknesses, the issue is the zerg type pvp. you dont understand that the ap and leveling comes from zerging. in order to be of any use in a zerg you cant die in three seconds. and i dont think its very wise that i be subjected to ganking as the ap drops tremendously. if the game was even across all forms of gameplay i would not give a poop about a burst heal. but its not even. and even when you attempt a stun/gank i have seen people heal through two stam nbs putting in work. any points you have are invalid simply because ihave to zerg in order to get ap and level. and who in their right mind wants to gank till level 10 on assault?
are you completely insane ?
The strength of the nightblade is super high (stupidly high) burst damage and the ability to avoid damage by rolling around. If you cannot do this then you need to choose more suitable gear. It is quite straight forward to be successful even as a casual with a family.
Giving a class with super high burst dps, and endless dodge, a strong and spamable heal is stupid. Creating the skill in the first place was silly. Now giving it to the vast majority of the population is just plain foolish.
I understand from your post that you want the heal so that you can do crazy tornado damage in a zerg while also healing everyone constantly with vigor (now!) I can completely understand why you would want that. It is, arguably, what's called 'god mode'. It should absolutely never exist.
Qudos to the raid trains who do it so very successfully in EU. Use of the skills in a fantastic synergy. Very hard to kill them.
This is why rock-paper-scissors is a necessity in these types of games (rather than rockANDpaperANDscissors for each class in ESO).
This game is shortly to be Elder NBs Online as can be seen by a trip thought the low level areas.
simply put, i dont use steel tornado. so no, im not trying to god mode. i would even be fine if the heal god nerfed, i simply want access to a no bs heal. one i can use without attacking an enemy as thats the initial problem. i dont use dodge chance, and i cant roll like crazy because my attacks all use stamina. this would add a heal to that (already) crammed stamina stat.
everyone is calling out op, but if im retreating after laying into you, and your self heals keep you up, leaving me with no stamina, how in the fart am i going to use vigor? or roll dodge? lololol
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DIENASTY9✭✭✭Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »while playing for a good while ith the build i know it is supposed to have strengths and weaknesses, the issue is the zerg type pvp. you dont understand that the ap and leveling comes from zerging. in order to be of any use in a zerg you cant die in three seconds. and i dont think its very wise that i be subjected to ganking as the ap drops tremendously. if the game was even across all forms of gameplay i would not give a poop about a burst heal. but its not even. and even when you attempt a stun/gank i have seen people heal through two stam nbs putting in work. any points you have are invalid simply because ihave to zerg in order to get ap and level. and who in their right mind wants to gank till level 10 on assault?
are you completely insane ?
#ihazfaithinmagickadk? really? point proven. your own signature explains why you are against us getting a solid heal, GDB lololol ok buddy. im afraid your simply a troll or trying to recruit me for YOUR comedy club
I quoted bad... The Tors comment was hilarious, btw fixed.
If you had read my signature i have even a templar, i go full stamina with it and i have your same issue but my playstile is different from the zerg , i run most of the time solo.
When i fight more than two opponents i will be shitting in my pants without the dwemer undaunted set.
So no i dont want the vigor at rank 5 not because i have a dk but because ap can be farmed really easy .
On a side note, i do 40-50 k ap a day ganking.... Eventually in 1-2 months from now i will have acces to the vigor (A good reward as a dedicated pvp player) Your move now!
my move...but i was not talking to you c':
so how many hours do you log in pvp a day? i can get ap from ganking (duh) but with time restraints and the likes, in order to reach the vet 14 transfers, i have to get as much as soon as possible.
thats another issue, these vet 14s can come in and destroy entire teams of vet 1-5's yet pvp is supposed to be somewhat even playing ground? you wonder why we want a heal, to survive the guys who already have godmode.Edited by DIENASTY9 on June 24, 2015 11:29AM"Tryn'a be a gentleman of sorts, tryn'a be a better man, of course"
welshassassin1987 (in regards to console community) : "Except the guy who continued to follow me around making chicken noises till I logged out. Or the one who shouts abuse because you didn't heal him when your not even a healer. Or the one that thinks everyone in Tamriel wants to here Gangsta Rap. I could go on. No doubt there are some decent folk out there, sadly not seeing them around at the moment."0 -
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How about they kill two birds with one stone:JacksonCarter13 wrote: »I hope they dont change is that would be absolutely lame! Im rank 9 still on my way to 10 but it really should be those who worked for it..- Move them to rank 5, but reduce their effectiveness.
- Add a passive at current required rank that returns them to their current functionality?
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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DIENASTY9✭✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
How about they kill two birds with one stone:JacksonCarter13 wrote: »I hope they dont change is that would be absolutely lame! Im rank 9 still on my way to 10 but it really should be those who worked for it..- Move them to rank 5, but reduce their effectiveness.
- Add a passive at current required rank that returns them to their current functionality?
now this is a smart idea."Tryn'a be a gentleman of sorts, tryn'a be a better man, of course"
welshassassin1987 (in regards to console community) : "Except the guy who continued to follow me around making chicken noises till I logged out. Or the one who shouts abuse because you didn't heal him when your not even a healer. Or the one that thinks everyone in Tamriel wants to here Gangsta Rap. I could go on. No doubt there are some decent folk out there, sadly not seeing them around at the moment."0 -
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✭A friend of mine use the 2handed in his buff skill bar only to use the rally because even if you have acces to the vigor most of the times is not enought, think of it rally + skills + rolldoge +vigor? All of this use stamina and most of the times you cannot cast a vigor so for a stamina build the 2handed as a second weapon is the best choice.
Do a build and hoping that someday maybe you will use the vigor in it and till then just dont try to find another solution is a little bit lazy (on my templar i was using the ultimate of the restoring light line before taking the dwemer set)
A quick solution for you is use the "soul shred" morph that heals as a HOT the refreshing path and siphoning strikes , you will do a little less dmg but you will survive a little moreSignature0 -
DIENASTY9✭✭✭Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »A friend of mine use the 2handed in his buff skill bar only to use the rally because even if you have acces to the vigor most of the times is not enought, think of it rally + skills + rolldoge +vigor? All of this use stamina and most of the times you cannot cast a vigor so for a stamina build the 2handed as a second weapon is the best choice.
Do a build and hoping that someday maybe you will use the vigor in it and till then just dont try to find another solution is a little bit lazy (on my templar i was using the ultimate of the restoring light line before taking the dwemer set)
A quick solution for you is use the "soul shred" morph that heals as a HOT the refreshing path and siphoning strikes , you will do a little less dmg but you will survive a little more
this is exactly the problem, i dont want to run around with a sword as big as i am. rally is very nice, but honestly, i would lose all interest if i stacked 2h with rally and vigor. that would be as close to god mode as a nb can get, and im not looking for that. i simply want a solid heal i can use on my dw bars, s,s/d,d swords for damage and range, daggers as crit and buffs for opening with stealth ect."Tryn'a be a gentleman of sorts, tryn'a be a better man, of course"
welshassassin1987 (in regards to console community) : "Except the guy who continued to follow me around making chicken noises till I logged out. Or the one who shouts abuse because you didn't heal him when your not even a healer. Or the one that thinks everyone in Tamriel wants to here Gangsta Rap. I could go on. No doubt there are some decent folk out there, sadly not seeing them around at the moment."0
