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We Need Faction Changes and We Need Them Now

  • PeggymoeXD
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    Chesimac wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Over the past month I have met sooo many cool Ep and Ad people who are rerolling DC or working hard to grind dc toons. Too many to list but a few are xylena, Peggy, Mojican, Arcane...

    But these people strike me as the type to not need a high school clique, more independent minded and more concerned about the health of the game than they are in dominating and running around bragging and beating their chests and looking for ego stroking. They have shown real hutzpah in stepping outside the comfort zone of their OP'd faction and meeting new people on DC side and making new friends. Ep just needs more people with that mindset and an option to change factions could work.

    Or the time, all those players you mentioned aren't exactly casuals....

    I'm as casual as it gets. It just so happens I'm good at being a tryhard. And J, you're awesome. Yeah, I rolled DC because there was nothing left for me on EP. There are plenty of zer.. erm. I mean organized guilds running around already. They no longer, or ever really, needed my help. I've been emp, I made a name for myself, whether it be good or bad. So now I'm moving on, and I'm bringing friends with me. I gagged at the thought of having an AD toon, so figured that being the underdog in just about every server would be the most fun. I've already made plenty of DC friends and look forward to crushing skulls with my enormous sword.
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  • qsnoopyjr
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    PvP is a wasteland. DC is basically dead, AD is quickly losing players to other games and EP is still the most populated, but they will leave too once there is no one left to fight. I've had many people tell me they'd play DC if faction changes were introduced, but they aren't willing to grind up a new character- especially since mob XP got nerfed.

    In order to prevent this from becoming a total ***show, it should be for *one* character per account, and *one* time only. Please don't put this in the crown store. We're trying to save the game here.

    Two things.

    1. People can switch to DC and help.
    2. People from DC switch to EP and join the winning team.


    Everyone wants to be part of the winning team... Only few are willing to join the losing team.
  • PeggymoeXD
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    A lot of ep would refuse because they intuitively know they can't play solo or in small groups without their humongous zergs to back up their big talk. I know. I know these guys. I have seen their fragile egos first hand.

    I've crushed their egos with my sword. Tore one of the most notorious pug wranglers a new one then challenged him to a 1v1 that he turned down. My first kills at v1 were 2 members of the supposed best guild there is(was). They were separated from their zerg and I was able to flip them like pancakes. Playing against your own faction can be pretty satisfying at times. Of course, I'm usually just being roflstomped by 23904509345 of them. But every now and then I get a good fight in.
    Edited by PeggymoeXD on June 22, 2015 5:01AM
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  • Ace_SiN
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    ...but they aren't willing to grind up a new character- especially since mob XP got nerfed.

    Don't worry, the crown store gives you the xp back.
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  • MaximillianDiE
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    I've rerolled a DC DK to try out another class and another side too, but its not just the level and VR grind. If you grind - you miss a huge number of skill points on the way, your horse is unlevelled (unless you pay a stupid amount in the crown shop) and you lose all your alliance skills, and undaunted skills along the way and have to level them from scratch. I'm finding it a bit of a slog to be honest. I'd pay $100 in a heartbeat to transfer my EP sorc over though.
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  • Valindor Magnus
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    I too thought at one point we would get faction changes. however, why would they give us faction changes if they just released xp drinks? they would rather you "play" through the game and just buy xp drinks to expedite the leveling process...
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    I too thought at one point we would get faction changes. however, why would they give us faction changes if they just released xp drinks? they would rather you "play" through the game and just buy xp drinks to expedite the leveling process...

    Good point. They can make a LOT more money by getting us to pay for subs (10% bonus) and then buy XP potions to get maximum XP gain.

    So why bother trying to solve all those "technical hurdles" they keep talking about when mentioning why Faction Change isn't possible at this time.
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  • Observant
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    The thought of leveling another character makes me cringe, but I love this game too much to watch it die. And I hate Havoc.

    Has anyone talked to customer service about it?
    Technically name-changing isn't an offered service, yet we were able to change names if you were patient enough on the telephone with a CSR.
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  •  Jules
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    Equalizing populations is desperately important, as the death of any faction results in the death of Cyrodiil for all. Faction changes to lower pop factions should be available. Of course, with a predetermined lockout period. This would be ideal for those who are not interested in grinding up brand new toons, all the vet ranks, AR, undaunted, ect ect ect.

    However, it seems illogical that ZOS would release anything like this right now. Paying to faction swap through the crown store would deter people from buying xp pots and split the revenue. Why grind up a new toon and buy 5 xp scrolls for 1000 crowns if you can buy a faction swap? Unless faction swaps went for exorbitant amounts of money, these scrolls will be infinitely more profitable.

    Unfortunately, if people want to combat the imbalances in population, it will have to come from players. Relying on ZOS to do it for us will leave us disappointed, as it often does.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Jules wrote: »
    Equalizing populations is desperately important, as the death of any faction results in the death of Cyrodiil for all. Faction changes to lower pop factions should be available. Of course, with a predetermined lockout period. This would be ideal for those who are not interested in grinding up brand new toons, all the vet ranks, AR, undaunted, ect ect ect.

    However, it seems illogical that ZOS would release anything like this right now. Paying to faction swap through the crown store would deter people from buying xp pots and split the revenue. Why grind up a new toon and buy 5 xp scrolls for 1000 crowns if you can buy a faction swap? Unless faction swaps went for exorbitant amounts of money, these scrolls will be infinitely more profitable.

    Unfortunately, if people want to combat the imbalances in population, it will have to come from players. Relying on ZOS to do it for us will leave us disappointed, as it often does.

    Too bad it's only one of the worst XP grinds to max level of any MMORPG (after the constant nerfing of quick leveling) since EQ.

    Add in wanting Undaunted passives, PVP passives, and everything else this game punishes people who want a second character worse than Dolores Umbridge deals with truancy.
    Edited by Agrippa_Invisus on June 22, 2015 8:20PM
    Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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    Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
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  •  Jules
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    Jules wrote: »
    Equalizing populations is desperately important, as the death of any faction results in the death of Cyrodiil for all. Faction changes to lower pop factions should be available. Of course, with a predetermined lockout period. This would be ideal for those who are not interested in grinding up brand new toons, all the vet ranks, AR, undaunted, ect ect ect.

    However, it seems illogical that ZOS would release anything like this right now. Paying to faction swap through the crown store would deter people from buying xp pots and split the revenue. Why grind up a new toon and buy 5 xp scrolls for 1000 crowns if you can buy a faction swap? Unless faction swaps went for exorbitant amounts of money, these scrolls will be infinitely more profitable.

    Unfortunately, if people want to combat the imbalances in population, it will have to come from players. Relying on ZOS to do it for us will leave us disappointed, as it often does.

    Too bad it's only one of the worst XP grinds to max level of any MMORPG (after the constant nerfing of quick leveling) since EQ.

    Add in wanting Undaunted passives, PVP passives, and everything else this game punishes people who want a second character worse than Dolores Umbridge deals with truancy.

    Agreed. Grinding a new toon up is an insane struggle.
    Also LOFL at the HP ref.
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  • Rylana
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    I am vet 11 on my DC toon now after almost a week straight of grinding 3-4 hours a day at some of the "best" spots people know of, including ambrosias.

    This is a nightmare, you cant expect the community to fix itself with grinds like this. I still have 3 Vet levels to go and I am out of viable grindspots (DC is horrible for grinding, the EP gold zones are godawful and what few that do exist are always camped to hell 24/7)

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  • hammayolettuce
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    Ace_SiN wrote: »
    ...but they aren't willing to grind up a new character- especially since mob XP got nerfed.

    Don't worry, the crown store gives you the xp back.

    Cancel thread folks, ZOS fixed the balance problem.
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  • PeggymoeXD
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    Rylana wrote: »
    I am vet 11 on my DC toon now after almost a week straight of grinding 3-4 hours a day at some of the "best" spots people know of, including ambrosias.

    This is a nightmare, you cant expect the community to fix itself with grinds like this. I still have 3 Vet levels to go and I am out of viable grindspots (DC is horrible for grinding, the EP gold zones are godawful and what few that do exist are always camped to hell 24/7)

    I did it :D also, I have some secret grind spots I was rarely bothered in, and the only people who stopped by, were questing.
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  • Satiar
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    Try bringing your whole guild through it lol. No one wants to know how many exp pots I've bought.
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  • Minnesinger
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    Hmm it took me around 3 weeks to level up a DC toon. At vr14 my guild got inactive/ stopped playing so I am left without one. Anyways, by some sort of knowledge there are good grind spots available though there is some competition around. I partnered with another players to make it faster. As a plus note I must say that it gives easy champion points to have more than 1 vr14 toon.
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  • Joy_Division
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Try bringing your whole guild through it lol. No one wants to know how many exp pots I've bought.

    ZoS does and that's why we won't see a faction change feature.
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
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