Might be just me but I felt the same way about Fallout and the GTA games, no doubt amazing games, but just too sandboxy for me. I got bored very quickly once the main story was over and stopped playing. But even though they are just as much of a sandbox, something just clicks with mmo's and makes it a fuller experience in my opinion.

I have to say, I absolutely love ESO:TU and the previous Elder Scrolls games, though I feel this game could be way better with more immersion and wildlife, it is for sure the best ES game so far, Combat could be improved by adding more mechanics like parrying, and in general faster combat, I know some players would not like this, but it is up for debate.

Elder scrolls online is an amazing game and I think it's flaws [PC] are minimal atm.

Krombie wrote: »

I have to say, I absolutely love ESO:TU and the previous Elder Scrolls games, though I feel this game could be way better with more immersion and wildlife, it is for sure the best ES game so far, Combat could be improved by adding more mechanics like parrying, and in general faster combat, I know some players would not like this, but it is up for debate.

Elder scrolls online is an amazing game and I think it's flaws [PC] are minimal atm.

i can imagine faster combat too, but if you consider animation cancelling everywhere now and crazy damage many players already have, its madness to request

Drazhar14 wrote: »

skwake wrote: »

The fact that enemies dont scale to your current level so if you want to go back and search for something you missed you can see how far you have come!.

Wait until you start doing dungeons... you feel like you don't progress at all since enemies do scale with you there.

Only initially.
Once you learn the mechanics of it and rack up Champ points, even on-level is a walk in the park and gets easier as the time goes on.

well, the most important thing i mess in mmo is a modders contents: i mean all of those thousands of quests and new lands, dlc sized that keep alive that game (morrowind, oblivion, skyrim, fallout 3, fallout nv) for decades.
i never got boring in game like that, becouse once you reach spartans level you always going to move your slide at the hardcore mode, and enlarge your spawn mobs as you like.
people that play mods on those game for over 10 years, know very well how was easy to get new high quality content from modders comunity.
some thing that in mmo you will never see.
yes we have addons, but will remain a gestionable and ui utility, almost.
about a new content, modders comunity sites like nexsus are still proposing great content for old game like fallout. you never got boring, becouse you always can customize the game at your glance: difficulty, spawns, combat, monsters, enemies, quests, companions, dungeons, armors, weapons, looting... i could write for a year about those great modders, but you may just find for yourself googling.

this is a reason i always play on pc, becouse of modding, but i'm pretty sure the console will going to do the same very soon.

Metal10957 wrote: »

I have yet to see an epic feel in a dungeon like the very first dungeon in Skyrim, "Bleak Falls Barrow". Nothing in this game feels epic. The dungeons are more like caves.

Are you talking about dungeons or delves?

It's true... This game really is far better than Skyrim. I been a bit whingey in the forum lately, but at the end of the day EOS is a thoroughly enjoyable game, and is a vast improvement on the previous games.

you know there are really awesome single player games like witcher 3 or gta v..each year has 3 to 4 triple A single palyer games worth playing..but that is it for single player games..but mmo is the game you play for long term.

Congratulations, you're MMO player.

parpin wrote: »

you know there are really awesome single player games like witcher 3 or gta v..each year has 3 to 4 triple A single palyer games worth playing..but that is it for single player games..but mmo is the game you play for long term.

i'm just moving to witcher 3 yesterday, and i'm writing in the forum watching the tutorials.
mmo do not means long term; not all mmo are going to follow the wow path. there are only few of them that stay for decades, the other just make their good business. this is normal.
eso pvp is not really his strong side, talking about mmo, fortunatelly the pve part is hudge, and garantee a quite good time.
so at least eso has a new identity in the mmo history, something smart, an ibrid that cover 2 side of the games market.
i just like play rpg, so for me means play any title like elder scroll, fallout, witcher, and some strategic like total war or just civilization. so i'm pretty busy in playing all those games, i will never fixed up with one title.
mmo has to be strong to keep me in contact, at the moment i met only wow, but is already lot of years that i stop with it.

Molsondry wrote: »

Im eager to see you guys when youl have a 24 men group in cyro get wrecked by a single guy cauz he dumped 200$ to buy gold on third party website and got the best in game gear + he dumped 200$ to get xp potion and has 400 champion points while you have 50. And he know how to infinite dodge roll and animation cancel .

Here is some information for you. In the Elder Scrolls Online, currency actually has little value, and you can obtain great gear by simply playing the game - doing quests and completing dungeons. Champion points work this way: once you have allocated many points into one trait it starts to not benefit anymore, meaning that once you reach a certain amount of champion points they have less value. Also, obtaining champion points requires a lot of time spent in the game grinding or simply playing, so of course the player will have better stats.

Infinite dodge roll is just a matter of stat allocation; having enough stamina regeneration for example. Good animation cancelling is possible with practise and means you know the combat mechanics.

Smepic wrote: »

Here is some information for you. In the Elder Scrolls Online, currency actually has little value.

well,
i probabily mess something when i'm going to pay 70.000 gold just to buy a 10 slots space in my bank.
but you are right, after crafting and refine the best armor you can have in eso, the only thing you can do is smelt down it once you are not to use anymore, becouse of bounded.
yes, here the curreny has little value. another negative side of eso: who decide i can't sell my items? there are lot of dicussions about it, but the fact is we mess logic in this game.

about cp, if you read the constellations, you are going to get those crazy powerfull passives (10, 30, 75, 120), and with almost 10 points in a skill you just get, for example 5% spell critical, plus 12% spel critical passive once you have put 30 point in that three.

math is not an opiniom.

Mitchblue wrote: »

When the main story of Skyrim is done, that's a sign to stop playing. It's an RPG, once the role playing is over, game is over.

on pc you can mod your game, and specialized gamers play a title for years: there are thousands of dlc size quests, new lands, any kind of content that let you enjoy a game for long time.
have a look at skyrim.nexsus site, there are dungeons that you need a full day play to finish.
in his tradition, always bethesda involved the modders comunity, becouse from them they got customers and workers too.
is not a case that many modder was called working at bet. becouse of their high quality creation.

by those guys, you can customize your game from the visual graphic to the combat style: you'll never stop to role playing such a customize game, becouse of the free high content you are going to have for years.

you can even change the game in a zombie apocalypse if you like and get fun killing undead all day; the next day you may want to go camping and hunting. in a game such skyrim, you may pretty role play whatever you want if you use mods.

there is plenty of potential in eso, if looking more at skyrim

BurtFreeman wrote: »

well, the most important thing i mess in mmo is a modders contents: i mean all of those thousands of quests and new lands, dlc sized that keep alive that game (morrowind, oblivion, skyrim, fallout 3, fallout nv) for decades.
i never got boring in game like that, becouse once you reach spartans level you always going to move your slide at the hardcore mode, and enlarge your spawn mobs as you like.
people that play mods on those game for over 10 years, know very well how was easy to get new high quality content from modders comunity.
some thing that in mmo you will never see.
yes we have addons, but will remain a gestionable and ui utility, almost.
about a new content, modders comunity sites like nexsus are still proposing great content for old game like fallout. you never got boring, becouse you always can customize the game at your glance: difficulty, spawns, combat, monsters, enemies, quests, companions, dungeons, armors, weapons, looting... i could write for a year about those great modders, but you may just find for yourself googling.

this is a reason i always play on pc, becouse of modding, but i'm pretty sure the console will going to do the same very soon.

Yeah, modding is nice and all but playing with real people > single player with modding. At least for me.
Interactions with people, showing off your flashy new armour, beating the pulp out of other players in pvp is something you cannot do in previous TES titles, which makes them fun only for so long before you get bored playing on your own.

UrQuan wrote: »

Mitchblue wrote: »

When the main story of Skyrim is done, that's a sign to stop playing. It's an RPG, once the role playing is over, game is over.

Ha ha ha ha, no. In Skyrim, as in any game, when you're not having fun is the sign to stop playing. I know a couple of people who enjoyed many hours of playing Skyrim without even touching the main story. Most of the game has very little, if anything, to do with the main story. And that's even before considering all of the mods available...

I never finished it myself. I spent 150 hours in it and just stopped. Good game for a while and your point is taken. No fun, stop playing. I was thinking more games like Matt Effect series. There is an end to that game, sort of. Eventually there's nothing to do.