Devs still not allowing console players to remap their controls?
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Would like to see a dev actually answer this directly.
They took out the ability to remap controller buttons because they thought they couldn't trust console players to be allowed to do tbat.
Seriously , that was their reasoning they gave in live video chat Thursday before launch.
Of course no one could call them out on the spot for it.
I want them to actually explain how PC players can remap 102+ keys ok , and have this magical default button to reset it if they screw it up or don't like it , but console players can't remap about 12 without hurting themselves ?
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Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on June 20, 2015 1:00AM They took out the ability to remap controller buttons because they thought they couldn't trust console players to be allowed to do tbat.
Seriously , that was their reasoning they gave in live video chat Thursday before launch.
Of course no one could call them out on the spot for it.
I want them to actually explain how PC players can remap 102+ keys ok , and have this magical default button to reset it if they screw it up or don't like it , but console players can't remap about 12 without hurting themselves ?
[Moderator Note: Edited title per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]
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As a console player, I can confirm they aren't wrong. 90% of our ranks are made of the sorts who refuse to play a tutorial then whine that the game never explained things to them.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting Comments]Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on June 20, 2015 1:34AM6 -
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IF ONE HAS IT...ALL SHOULD HAVE IT!!
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pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭It is not acceptable that we have to take our thumbs off of the movement stick to swap weapons. At the very least swapping crouch and swap weapon needs to be an option. Plenty of PS4 players are already doing this but it also means we can't use the left arrow to navigate menus anymore as it is a global system custom mapping.
There should also be a variety of options for the completely useless cycle quest button. Perhaps use it as a push to talk button.
Edited by pecheckler on June 19, 2015 12:19PMEnd the tedious inventory management game.1 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭The pc players spent a long time trying to decide if the decelopers had ever played a MMO before. Sounds like they never played on a console either.6 -
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✭I really like my button remapping on my pc.......and my addons.......and the graphics.........come join us
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Enodoc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think it's due to the commands that require combos. Synergy, for example, being Y + B. Should it be possible to remap it to just one button, say RB? What would happen if you tried to map it to A + X? That could also unset Interact, Jump and Ability 3 because those are what A and X do individually. I agree that the option should be there to some degree, but there are a lot of factors to consider when implementing it.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭✭Well I mean you guys do prefer pre-made machines that cap at about half the power of a real machine.
If it fits, it fits, you know?
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Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭You poor souls.
What you ask for sounds so simple, yet you underestimate just how much they could break in the process.
I draw your attention to the 'E' key dilemma, a year or so ago.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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Would like to see a dev actually answer this directly.
They took out the ability to remap controller buttons because they thought they couldn't trust console players to be allowed to do tbat.
Seriously , that was their reasoning they gave in live video chat Thursday before launch.
Of course no one could call them out on the spot for it.
I want them to actually explain how PC players can remap 102+ keys ok , and have this magical default button to reset it if they screw it up or don't like it , but console players can't remap about 12 without hurting themselves ?
yup im with the devs on this one :-)Meh!0 -
traigusb14_ESO2✭✭✭✭✭I think it's due to the commands that require combos. Synergy, for example, being Y + B. Should it be possible to remap it to just one button, say RB? What would happen if you tried to map it to A + X? That could also unset Interact, Jump and Ability 3 because those are what A and X do individually. I agree that the option should be there to some degree, but there are a lot of factors to consider when implementing it.
This is it exactly.
1 for 1 switches would bork combos... also some buttons don't do tap/ hold as well as others.
A keyboard actually has unused keys, so no matter how many keys you change, there is a place to put stuff.
Console controllers are double(with press length) and tripling up buttons (with combos). There are no spare spots. Do it wrong and you may not actually be able to use the menu that lets you switch it back (no mouse safety net).1 -
Visemere✭✭pecheckler wrote: »It is not acceptable that we have to take our thumbs off of the movement stick to swap weapons. At the very least swapping crouch and swap weapon needs to be an option. Plenty of PS4 players are already doing this but it also means we can't use the left arrow to navigate menus anymore as it is a global system custom mapping.
There should also be a variety of options for the completely useless cycle quest button. Perhaps use it as a push to talk button.
i dont take my thumb off the movement stick to swap... not sure what you are doing there.
use your other handVisemere - VR16 Argonian Templar - PS4 EU Dagger Fall Covenant0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Would like to see a dev actually answer this directly.
They took out the ability to remap controller buttons because they thought they couldn't trust console players to be allowed to do tbat.
Seriously , that was their reasoning they gave in live video chat Thursday before launch.
Of course no one could call them out on the spot for it.
I want them to actually explain how PC players can remap 102+ keys ok , and have this magical default button to reset it if they screw it up or don't like it , but console players can't remap about 12 without hurting themselves ?
Any answer becomes difficult to accept when you apply your own filter +add lib vs. listening to what the answer actually is and hearing this from their development and marketing goals. Those who they are targeting and what options exist on the hardware
Anyone's opinion on the matter is fine but you've taken a response and twisted it to make your own opinionated argument.
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Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
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Wait, which other hand? Sounds like an advanced technique.
i dont take my thumb off the movement stick to swap... not sure what you are doing there.
use your other hand
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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traigusb14_ESO2✭✭✭✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Wait, which other hand? Sounds like an advanced technique.
The potato chip hand.
Snacking inhibits me from switching weapons while in combat.
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✭"Too cumbersome." Ultimate trolling from ZOS.
edit: Wait, that was in regards to text chat. Regardless, I'm sure this was drafted up for the same reason...Edited by nastuug on June 19, 2015 2:47PM1 -
Vorpal_Spork✭✭✭pecheckler wrote: »It is not acceptable that we have to take our thumbs off of the movement stick to swap weapons. At the very least swapping crouch and swap weapon needs to be an option. Plenty of PS4 players are already doing this but it also means we can't use the left arrow to navigate menus anymore as it is a global system custom mapping.
There should also be a variety of options for the completely useless cycle quest button. Perhaps use it as a push to talk button.
Agreed. Cycle quest is beyond useless. Literally anything else would be a far better use of the button. And why can't we bind things to swipes on the touch pad? They're missing out on 4 more bindings we could have. Why, were they just too lazy?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I had an alternative control scheme suggestion that I posted in another thread. The aim of this is to free up the face buttons for other options so the controls work a bit more like Oblivion/Skyrim, but it does mean putting the skills on combos with RB / R1. Would such a thing work?Skill 1 -> RB / R1 + X / Square
Skill 2 -> RB / R1 + Y / Triangle
Skill 3 -> RB / R1 + B / Circle
Skill 4 -> RB / R1 + A / X
Skill 5 -> RB / R1 + LB / L1
Ultimate -> RB / R1 + LS / L3 + RS / R3
Sprint -> LB / L1
Weapon Swap/Sheathe -> X / Square
Sneak -> LS / L3
1st/3rd Person -> RS / R3
Jump -> Y / Triangle
Dodge -> LT / L2 + Y / Triangle
Synergy -> B / Circle
Mount -> D-pad Down
Area Chat Toggle -> D-pad Left
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Carde✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If a game like FFXIV can manage to comfortably fit like 10 hotbars worth of buttons onto a controller there's no real reason TESO couldn't, considering there's 2 hotbars with half the buttons of every other MMO on each of them, then only a handful of actual buttons that matter in the game.Member of the Psijic Order PTS Group0 -
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✭✭Don't feel bad, the Witcher 3 doesn't let you change up buttons either...apparently we've entered the age of RPG's that take their button placement very seriously.0 -
Etharian✭✭✭this is probably the single most stupid thing ive ever heard of.,.. let ppl play the game they wont. not you ZENIMAX.... we paid.0
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭GoodFella146 wrote: »fortunately playing the game a lot solves this issue
Agreed. The controls are fun and easy.
It would take a drunk baby 2 minutes to learn to pull off an ultimate.
Just play. Its really intuitive.
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