Please make it easier to become a vampire.

Gorthax · June 2015

Roflmfao people want stuff easier. Pc had to deal with GUILDS dedicated to prevent people from becoming vampires. To ask them to do something about this is to ask them to DESTROY rp'ers who are trying to prevent the further spread of vampirism in tamriel. GG people....G mother f-ing G lol all hope lost. Even console people want to play twilight online

Gamers.Shadow · June 2015

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Umm, no.

They should actually make it harder. It's too easy as it is. Just wait a bit and you'll get it. Stop trying to get things made easier in the game console OR PC. That is a horrible thing that happens to MMORPGs because of impatient children. I don't know that you are a child but you are definitely impatient.

This game is already at half the difficulty it was at PC launch. Stop trying to make it worse please.

So you dont care about the fact people are not following the rules and charging outragious prices? nor do u care that even if you are the right level to get it(which i am) and i still cant get it due to kill squads. so you are saying that you support these actions? ZOS here is one of the reasons console ppl are flooding ur forums right here.

The.Virus · June 2015

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Umm, no.

They should actually make it harder. It's too easy as it is. Just wait a bit and you'll get it. Stop trying to get things made easier in the game console OR PC. That is a horrible thing that happens to MMORPGs because of impatient children. I don't know that you are a child but you are definitely impatient.

This game is already at half the difficulty it was at PC launch. Stop trying to make it worse please.

While i respect your opinion i think your wrong. People have the right to play the way they wish. And when we are ready to get it we cant because of people camping. How is that right? Its not and if you try to justify it your nothing more than a troll that i will ignore.

Have a nice day.

AlnilamE · June 2015

Gamers.Shadow wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Umm, no.

They should actually make it harder. It's too easy as it is. Just wait a bit and you'll get it. Stop trying to get things made easier in the game console OR PC. That is a horrible thing that happens to MMORPGs because of impatient children. I don't know that you are a child but you are definitely impatient.

This game is already at half the difficulty it was at PC launch. Stop trying to make it worse please.

So you dont care about the fact people are not following the rules and charging outragious prices? nor do u care that even if you are the right level to get it(which i am) and i still cant get it due to kill squads. so you are saying that you support these actions? ZOS here is one of the reasons console ppl are flooding ur forums right here.

Nobody needs to pay if people are charging outrageous prices. The campers are going to get tired or it, people will level enough that they can access Cadwell's Silver and will be able to get bitten there (or Gold). The game has been out on Console for a week. It took me 3 weeks looking for a WW spawn just a month or two ago, without people necessarily camping sites or anything. Be patient and you will get it.

DueceDropper22 · June 2015

I am trading a WereWolf Bite for a Vamp bite on NA Ebonheart Servers. Lmk if interested. GT is the same as my name here.

coryevans_3b14_ESO · June 2015

Gamers.Shadow wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

The.Virus wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Umm, no.

They should actually make it harder. It's too easy as it is. Just wait a bit and you'll get it. Stop trying to get things made easier in the game console OR PC. That is a horrible thing that happens to MMORPGs because of impatient children. I don't know that you are a child but you are definitely impatient.

This game is already at half the difficulty it was at PC launch. Stop trying to make it worse please.

While i respect your opinion i think your wrong. People have the right to play the way they wish. And when we are ready to get it we cant because of people camping. How is that right? Its not and if you try to justify it your nothing more than a troll that i will ignore.

Have a nice day.

I'm actually right. You're (notice the proper spelling) wrong.

I thought you were quitting?

cant get refund

Well then suck it up buttercup.

And who are you guys to tell other people how to play? That's virus's biggest complaint and yet he want's to do the same. Maybe these people are rp'ng and kill vampires because of that?

No matter the reason, you want to tell them how to play.

Sorry, but no.

jkemmery · June 2015

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Umm, no.

They should actually make it harder. It's too easy as it is. Just wait a bit and you'll get it. Stop trying to get things made easier in the game console OR PC. That is a horrible thing that happens to MMORPGs because of impatient children. I don't know that you are a child but you are definitely impatient.

This game is already at half the difficulty it was at PC launch. Stop trying to make it worse please.

Well, I'm no "hardcore gamer", personally. If a game is too hard, I don't bother with it anymore. I play games as entertainment. When they become frustrating for me, they are no longer entertaining, and thus no longer serve their purpose. If ZOS hadn't made ESO more accessible, I would not be playing it. I imagine there are many others who feel the same way. Where it is now, I think it walks the fine line between "boring easy" (no one plays except preschoolers) and "F$%KING HARD!" (no one plays except "hardcore gamers") And I'm a 47 year old man, by-the-way. Moreover, I don't think that making Vampire easier to get is going to negatively impact anyone's enjoyment of the game. Making Vamp easier to get, I feel, would basically result in it being abandoned earlier by the majority of players because they find they are dying much faster due to the increased fire vulnerability. Unless ZOS modifies that in the future.

Psychobunni · June 2015

Console players just need to "woosah"....this so won't even be an issue in a month, and that is why there is no need for ZOS to make changes. It will get to the point that you literally can't even give your bite away.

lsneakl · June 2015

Gamers.Shadow wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

The.Virus wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Umm, no.

They should actually make it harder. It's too easy as it is. Just wait a bit and you'll get it. Stop trying to get things made easier in the game console OR PC. That is a horrible thing that happens to MMORPGs because of impatient children. I don't know that you are a child but you are definitely impatient.

This game is already at half the difficulty it was at PC launch. Stop trying to make it worse please.

While i respect your opinion i think your wrong. People have the right to play the way they wish. And when we are ready to get it we cant because of people camping. How is that right? Its not and if you try to justify it your nothing more than a troll that i will ignore.

Have a nice day.

I'm actually right. You're (notice the proper spelling) wrong.

I thought you were quitting?

But obviously your a troll

No he is 100% correct and if you go back I have butted heads with Coryevans before in other posts.

Vampires and WW should not be an automatic. It is also part of lore (from what I understand) that normal citizens WANT TO STOP not become part of the virus spreading across the lands.

I dont think you understand the concept behind some people camping these areas. While some want to drive up costs of vampire bites others are Role Playing characters who are stopping the spread of the virus. Personally I wish more people were in the camp of trying to kill off all vampires. I personally support city guards/soldiers/citizens attacking all known WW and Vamps on site.

Being known could be like the justice system except with a 10x cool down. If you attack a person in town you get a 1-2hr cool down of being a known person with the virus. After all if this game was realistic and you announced you were one of these two species you would become an enemy of the state likely.

coryevans_3b14_ESO · June 2015

jkemmery wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Umm, no.

They should actually make it harder. It's too easy as it is. Just wait a bit and you'll get it. Stop trying to get things made easier in the game console OR PC. That is a horrible thing that happens to MMORPGs because of impatient children. I don't know that you are a child but you are definitely impatient.

This game is already at half the difficulty it was at PC launch. Stop trying to make it worse please.

Well, I'm no "hardcore gamer", personally. If a game is too hard, I don't bother with it anymore. I play games as entertainment. When they become frustrating for me, they are no longer entertaining, and thus no longer serve their purpose. If ZOS hadn't made ESO more accessible, I would not be playing it. I imagine there are many others who feel the same way. Where it is now, I think it walks the fine line between "boring easy" (no one plays except preschoolers) and "F$%KING HARD!" (no one plays except "hardcore gamers") And I'm a 47 year old man, by-the-way. Moreover, I don't think that making Vampire easier to get is going to negatively impact anyone's enjoyment of the game. Making Vamp easier to get, I feel, would basically result in it being abandoned earlier by the majority of players because they find they are dying much faster due to the increased fire vulnerability. Unless ZOS modifies that in the future.

Some good points. But while you stayed because it's more accessible, others quit a long time ago because it's so easy.

And I totally agree that so many of them that want it will abandon it soon (tm) after because of it's disadvantages.

JD2013 · June 2015

Definitely not. You should have to work for something you want, given the skill line that it grants.

If anything, it should be made harder to obtain, because some of the skills are actually very good.

coryevans_3b14_ESO · June 2015

Gamers.Shadow wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Umm, no.

They should actually make it harder. It's too easy as it is. Just wait a bit and you'll get it. Stop trying to get things made easier in the game console OR PC. That is a horrible thing that happens to MMORPGs because of impatient children. I don't know that you are a child but you are definitely impatient.

This game is already at half the difficulty it was at PC launch. Stop trying to make it worse please.

So you dont care about the fact people are not following the rules and charging outragious prices? nor do u care that even if you are the right level to get it(which i am) and i still cant get it due to kill squads. so you are saying that you support these actions? ZOS here is one of the reasons console ppl are flooding ur forums right here.

Show me where the rule is that they can't kill stuff when they want to? Or what they are supposed to charge people?

You're assuming that they are doing something wrong. They are not. Is it rude? Maybe. But we all dealt with it during the first month or 2 of PC launch without too much crying. You guys should too.

Merkabeh · June 2015

I've been lurking on these forums since PC release...lol...such a familiar topic.

@console players - Just be patient; as everyone on PC is saying, eventually this will be a complete non-issue as saturation of vampirism and lycanthropy eventually out weighs demand for it. Right now you are attempting to be an early adopter in a sense, and there is always a cost for that. So, pay the cost, or be patient and wait for the supply to balance with the demand. There is literally no reason for a programmatic fix as the market will adjust itself naturally.

Nebthet78 · June 2015

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Gamers.Shadow wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Umm, no.

They should actually make it harder. It's too easy as it is. Just wait a bit and you'll get it. Stop trying to get things made easier in the game console OR PC. That is a horrible thing that happens to MMORPGs because of impatient children. I don't know that you are a child but you are definitely impatient.

This game is already at half the difficulty it was at PC launch. Stop trying to make it worse please.

So you dont care about the fact people are not following the rules and charging outragious prices? nor do u care that even if you are the right level to get it(which i am) and i still cant get it due to kill squads. so you are saying that you support these actions? ZOS here is one of the reasons console ppl are flooding ur forums right here.

Show me where the rule is that they can't kill stuff when they want to? Or what they are supposed to charge people?

You're assuming that they are doing something wrong. They are not. Is it rude? Maybe. But we all dealt with it during the first month or 2 of PC launch without too much crying. You guys should too.

The only part some players are doing that is not allowed is charging real money or PSN money for a bite, or charging in game gold and not providing the bite.

Otherwise, people asking for in game gold for a bite is not against the rules. Also, as has been proven time and time again over the last year on PC, people camping and killing the spawns is also not against the rules and ZOS won't do anything about it.

This game is an MMO, and if you can't adapt to how that system works, this is definitely not the game for you.

IrishGirlGamer · June 2015

jkemmery wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Umm, no.

They should actually make it harder. It's too easy as it is. Just wait a bit and you'll get it. Stop trying to get things made easier in the game console OR PC. That is a horrible thing that happens to MMORPGs because of impatient children. I don't know that you are a child but you are definitely impatient.

This game is already at half the difficulty it was at PC launch. Stop trying to make it worse please.

Well, I'm no "hardcore gamer", personally. If a game is too hard, I don't bother with it anymore. I play games as entertainment. When they become frustrating for me, they are no longer entertaining, and thus no longer serve their purpose. If ZOS hadn't made ESO more accessible, I would not be playing it. I imagine there are many others who feel the same way.

I'm one of those who feel the same way - but I don't want it rollover easy, either. I would prefer some kind of difficulty slider, even if it's just for PvE. A few weeks ago I posted a comment about my early game Doshia experiences, how the fight was a challenge. Now it's just three hits and it's over. Maybe it is because I understand the game mechanics better, but that fight would be a lot more enjoyable for me if I had to actually ... fight.

coryevans_3b14_ESO · June 2015

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

jkemmery wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Umm, no.

They should actually make it harder. It's too easy as it is. Just wait a bit and you'll get it. Stop trying to get things made easier in the game console OR PC. That is a horrible thing that happens to MMORPGs because of impatient children. I don't know that you are a child but you are definitely impatient.

This game is already at half the difficulty it was at PC launch. Stop trying to make it worse please.

Well, I'm no "hardcore gamer", personally. If a game is too hard, I don't bother with it anymore. I play games as entertainment. When they become frustrating for me, they are no longer entertaining, and thus no longer serve their purpose. If ZOS hadn't made ESO more accessible, I would not be playing it. I imagine there are many others who feel the same way.

I'm one of those who feel the same way - but I don't want it rollover easy, either. I would prefer some kind of difficulty slider, even if it's just for PvE. A few weeks ago I posted a comment about my early game Doshia experiences, how the fight was a challenge. Now it's just three hits and it's over. Maybe it is because I understand the game mechanics better, but that fight would be a lot more enjoyable for me if I had to actually ... fight.

Starting to really like this one ^^

jkemmery · June 2015

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

jkemmery wrote: »

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

Umm, no.

They should actually make it harder. It's too easy as it is. Just wait a bit and you'll get it. Stop trying to get things made easier in the game console OR PC. That is a horrible thing that happens to MMORPGs because of impatient children. I don't know that you are a child but you are definitely impatient.

This game is already at half the difficulty it was at PC launch. Stop trying to make it worse please.

Well, I'm no "hardcore gamer", personally. If a game is too hard, I don't bother with it anymore. I play games as entertainment. When they become frustrating for me, they are no longer entertaining, and thus no longer serve their purpose. If ZOS hadn't made ESO more accessible, I would not be playing it. I imagine there are many others who feel the same way.

I'm one of those who feel the same way - but I don't want it rollover easy, either. I would prefer some kind of difficulty slider, even if it's just for PvE. A few weeks ago I posted a comment about my early game Doshia experiences, how the fight was a challenge. Now it's just three hits and it's over. Maybe it is because I understand the game mechanics better, but that fight would be a lot more enjoyable for me if I had to actually ... fight.

The first time I fought Doshia was a huge challenge, and after I beat her, I quit playing for a few days or so because it was a frustrating experience. A few weeks ago I faced her again with a new char and it was much easier, so I do feel that they nerfed her a bit. Probably because so many people were dying trying to beat her. The first time I beat her I think I died about 4 times. The times I have faced her recently haven't been 3 hits and done though, she is still a challenge unless you get lucky with a critical hit or something. Of course there needs to be a challenge, to the game. My point is that ESO has reached the point where is has the most mass appeal. But we are off topic on this thread.

icebladess · June 2015

I thought i read somewhere it was against the rules for people camping and killing the spawns?

jkemmery · June 2015

icebladess wrote: »

I thought i read somewhere it was against the rules for people camping and killing the spawns?

There's no real rule against it, but I think a Game Master can boot someone if they get caught. I have a VR7 char and I've never even run in to a Vampire or Werewolf in the "wild" who can turn you. Almost everyone gets the ability from another player.

FancyTuna8 · June 2015

Where do I get the Creature from the Black Lagoon bite?

I really wish there was some sort of rolling event that had a Spanish Inquisition/Witch Hunt where some roaming NPC's had the ability to detect werewolves or vampires and all NPC's would chase down the detected ones relentlessly. Would be more fun.
How about an occasional Zombie plague event that results in rapid spread of the plague, culminating in a raid event at the end that cures the plague...but in the meantime, zombies are like kryptonite to vampires or werewolves.
I guess the role player in me just feels like it is a bit unrealistic to have an infectious disease that changes the state of the original species spread with no story consequences whatsoever. Having a parallel faction system with events, raids, or territorial competition seems like it would feel at least a little realistic.

FancyTuna8 · June 2015

Heromofo wrote: »

Console peeps are worse than pc players for this its gone as far as people offering real money over pay pal for it.

I still think console players may be getting the blame for pc players on this. Game was out maybe 3-4 days before this became an issue, at most? I don't think enough players could have cornered the market by then, unless they were pc transfers.
It is ridiculous to let some players hoard gameplay experience, though. If a group of players tried to hoard a rare item by farming it so no one else could get it, that would just be cornering the market--but when you are preventing players from gameplay experience, it is completely different. Think about if there was an area in the game that you could only access with a certain crafted potion, and this had an extremely rare ingredient, and a group of players were making sure hardly anyone else got it. Players should be able to manipulate the in-game markets, but not control access to content.
I'm fine with vampirism and werewolf-ism (?) being super-rare, by the way.

Korah_Eaglecry · June 2015

Nightlord wrote: »

RedTalon wrote: »

Sure it may end up in the crown store one day but doubt it, give it time and it will die down just level till you reach the spawn area level anyhow since you don't have to die to get infected anyhow by the spawns

Me dying is not the issue, its a bunch of poachers coming to prevent players from getting infected, so they can continue to extort people for gold charges for bites.
I'd like to be able to get infected from the actual npc vampires. Or remove the need of the infection, to do the quest to become one.

This occurred on PC. The fact that ZOS has never done anything about it is not shocking. If its not costing them money theyre not going to lift a finger. Youre just going to have to find a friend with the disease or wait out the poachers. Theyll eventually tire of having to go up there every few days to poach.

nimander99 · June 2015

It's already easy, to make it easier there would just have to be an interface button you could press to become a vampire at will.

So, no, just no.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO · June 2015

I really wish folks would stop with the false binaries.

I don't think anyone wants ACQUIRING the Vampire/Werewolf skill lines to be easy, and I don't think anyone wants them to be impossible to obtain, either.

As a matter of fact, I think they should be VERY difficult to obtain.

Where most of us have a problem in the game's current incarnation is with the fact that other players can decide to be A-Hats and COMPLETELY BLOCK this part of the game from their fellow gamers.

That is screwed up behavior. One player shouldn't get to unilaterally decide whether or not another player gets to experience a piece of content. It is completely anathema to the purpose of a cooperative multiplayer game, and makes the community more toxic.

TL;DR: The Vamp/WW content should be EXTREMELY difficult, but not gated because another player decides to be a total misanthrope.

Lylith · June 2015

Chuggernaut wrote: »

The only time "the natural" way hasn't worked was when I was too high of level for them (which I submitted a bug for) or when I get attacked in Cadwell's Silver or Gold.

i got infected in cadwell's silver as a v7 in a v5 zone, fwiw.

bangkorai had a bloodfiend spawn today, during the night cycle.

UrQuan · June 2015

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

I really wish folks would stop with the false binaries.

I don't think anyone wants ACQUIRING the Vampire/Werewolf skill lines to be easy, and I don't think anyone wants them to be impossible to obtain, either.

I think you're wrong about that. I think there are definitely people on the forums who want it to be easy to acquire the Vamp/WW skill lines. Having said that, I don't see any indications in OP's posts that he particularly wants it to be easy to get the skill lines. In all honesty his main complaint seems to be something that seems like a bug to me - if he's letting the bloodfiends attack him for a while and not getting infected that sounds like a bug. I've never failed to get infected when I let the mobs get a few hits in on me.

Helvion · June 2015

Vampires are "dorks"!

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO · June 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

I think you're wrong about that. I think there are definitely people on the forums who want it to be easy to acquire the Vamp/WW skill lines. Having said that, I don't see any indications in OP's posts that he particularly wants it to be easy to get the skill lines. In all honesty his main complaint seems to be something that seems like a bug to me - if he's letting the bloodfiends attack him for a while and not getting infected that sounds like a bug. I've never failed to get infected when I let the mobs get a few hits in on me.

Point taken.