was 1.5 the better game?

danno8 · June 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Roselle wrote: »

Those that think 1.5 was better might want to check out one of my earlier troll videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B3NJqWNJNQ

In case you're not observant, look at the date and my level before watching.

I am not exactly sure what exactly I am to observe there?
Is it that fire destro staff spells were much better looking back then?
Yes. They looked much better.

Is it the PVP lag locking up the battle and the damage not registering? is it the fact that after all the fixes and measures that ZOS took to "fix" that kind of thing it still happens regularly in fights of that size?

Please elaborate.

I won't speak for her, but what I took from the video was that pre 1.6 everyone was a light armour wearing, destro staff wielding, impulse spammer. It was THE way to play.

...as opposed to a medium armor wearing, nirned out DW Steel tornado spammer?
Yeah. Ok.

There are still many people who are playing magicka builds.

I'd say there are more magicka based characters playing now then there were stamina based characters in 1.5.

I'd say the majority of Sorc's and Templars are still playing magicka, perhaps even DK's, with NB's definitely playing more stamina than magicka now.

What was it like in 1.5? iirc ALL players staff and pj's.

With all that said, balance is still out of whack for what each side can accomplish.

tplink3r1 · June 2015

no

Rhakon wrote: »

Yes in PvP .

Remove Champions System! Boring, linear, player seperating - timesink!

Heres a tip: Don't play MMORPGs if you don't like progression.

Korah_Eaglecry · June 2015

no

Personofsecrets wrote: »

the game is worse now imo and something that everyone should agree on is that getting the champion system

A. can never relieve the vet level grind because it instituted a much worse grind.

B. Exasperated the the already dwindling population by being given in lieu of actual content.

It is important to think if the champion system and larger numbers were just something added because some eso overseers thought that eso needed those things to be successful console market.

Please present evidence of the dwindling population. Making things up just to make your point just means everyone around you should ignore you.

washlov · June 2015

yes

tplink3r1 wrote: »

Rhakon wrote: »

Yes in PvP .

Remove Champions System! Boring, linear, player seperating - timesink!

Heres a tip: Don't play MMORPGs if you don't like progression.

lol all love real progression but a system which prefer 24/7 farmers and now is P2W with xp boosters???
this is like chinafarmers games, elder scrolls should be better

Rhakon · June 2015

yes

washlov wrote: »

elder scrolls should be better

this!

Armitas · June 2015

yes

Emphatically yes. Having played the 1.6 beta I dreaded 1.6 before it even came out. You could tell right then you were not going to like it.

Over half the players not liking a major update is really really bad.

Sensesfail13 · June 2015

yes

^^^ Along with losing huge chunks of the population with the update. Its sad the people on this post have no real argument they just post generalized insults to while away the fact that they like jesus beam or the other very miniscule additions to their classes that in all reality should have been tweaks in 1.5, not added with 1.6 in a huge patch that turned ESO from a game that was mildly annoying to a game of 52 card pickup.

Bfish22090 · June 2015

no

Stamina in 1.5 would have been better

Endurance · June 2015

if you mean pre-HP/MP/STAM buff then yes definately.. but even back then alot of classes were so weak they couldn't even solo compared to now

nimander99 · June 2015

no

It's not even a competition imo... i'm very surprised more say yes than no as we finally have a complete Scrolls game with update 6...

Darklord_Tiberius · June 2015

mtwiggz wrote: »

The only real issue I have with 1.6 is the removal of softcap. Players can now obtain several ridiculously high stats, which makes for many issues in PVP. Couple this with the CP system and its even more ridiculous. I visioned the Champion System to be more of system to close holes in builds, not exploit them.

Apparently ZoS and I, and many other players, had a different view on what this system would do. We went from cookie cutter builds in 1.5 to more indepth cookie cutter builds in 1.6. The only real difference is the amount of CP each player has. PVP is even more unbalanced now than before. At least with soft caps people were exactly that, capped.

This. The fact a certain class only has to stack Max Magika and then they have the best survivablity/escapability/damage is a very very broken PvP class. We all know which class I am referring to. They need to bring soft caps back on certain stats because PvP has gotten to the point of ridiculous.

nimander99 · June 2015

no

Rhakon wrote: »

Yes in PvP .

Remove Champions System! Boring, linear, player seperating - timesink!

Your boring, linear, player separating timesink is my awesome never ending character progression-sink!

Chuggernaut · June 2015

no

Frenkthevile wrote: »

The only one that should like the 1.5 more than the 1.6 is a Staff+Pajama Sorceror.

^^ This!

Father · June 2015

no

1.5 = DK strongest class in pvp pve > all other classes
bugged nb cloak
99.5% of nbs use boring funnel health build
sorcs negate monkeys
weak templar
weak stamina builds
spell / weapon power stacking not viable
crit in pvp useless
soft caps terrible tooltip info lots of confusion on how skill work and scale...

I prefer 1.6 ;]

Aneima · June 2015

yes

Yes. One of the reasons being the nerf of legendary mats from hirelings.

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

the game is worse now imo and something that everyone should agree on is that getting the champion system

A. can never relieve the vet level grind because it instituted a much worse grind.

B. Exasperated the the already dwindling population by being given in lieu of actual content.

It is important to think if the champion system and larger numbers were just something added because some eso overseers thought that eso needed those things to be successful console market.

Please present evidence of the dwindling population. Making things up just to make your point just means everyone around you should ignore you.

I can't speak for anyone except for myself. During 1.5 and before I played 4-6 hours a day. After 1.6 i personally found the game became too much of a time sink from farming motifs to farming champion points. Heck, even logging on the check useless hirelings isn't even worth it to me anymore. I know that the forums are cluttered with more people agrivated and upset with this game than they are happy and excited. And that cannot be a good sign.

I don't know about anyone else and the games population shrinking, but for me I am one less person that even logs on anymore.

SkylarkAU · June 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ

Rune_Relic · June 2015

no

In 1.5 you could be best tank, healer and dps in light armour all at once.
You could max out all stats at the same time.
If you wanted to win you was DK vampire or dont bother and they were pretty much immortal.
Nuff said.

halfbadger · June 2015

yes

Rune_Relic wrote: »

In 1.5 you could be best tank, healer and dps in light armour all at once.

no

washlov · June 2015

yes

to all no voter
why do you all think the vote is about balancing
it's about the game mechanics

sure stamina armor.... all have to be balanced and this will never stop, but in my opinion the balance in 1.5 was better
1.5 had the feeling of fighting and not only looking on the health bar like watching a tennis game
and v14 always was a fair fight not 10CP vs 400 CP