Impen is useless on light armor in PVE. ZOS admitted no enemy Cirts in PVE so there is little sense for those who don't PVP to use it.

I use Reinforced for my Light Armor wearing vamp sorcerer and it is a significant enough bonus to let me solo most Public Dungeons without dying more than twice at most, and I don't have to have a shield eat up a slot on my skills bar.

What they need to do is rebalance Light and Heavy armor so that Light Armor gives better Spell Protection and Heavy Armor less.

F7sus4 wrote: »

Reinforced trait is fine. There's absolutely no need to change it.
Using it on Light Armor, however, is completely pointless.

Kinda contradictory, isn't it? I'll also probably bet you don't use the trait. The fact that it is pointless and almost entirely used in PVE by a few people is the reason it's not sufficient. (Although I suppose the same argument could be made for a number of traits.)

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Heavy armor should be the best 'armor'. Light and Medium should represent greater mobility at a loss to protection.

Not disputed. The idea is to increase the overall protection that the Reinforced trait gives. You can have heavy-ish medium armor with heavy still being the go to choice for protection and medium-ish armor with medium still being the choice for stamina.

ADarklore wrote: »

So far I am running Reinforced only in my Heavy and Divines in my Light. I find using a combination, two Heavy (three at lower levels), and five Light (four at lower levels) gives me great protection for my ranged Destro staff Dragonknight build. Once I get my Light armor to 38, I'll be switching to five Light with Divines and running Infused in my Heavy.

I run 5 heavy 2 light on my primary with divines on my PVE gear. The protection that the Lady gives is more than the Reinforced trait gives. I'm actually okay with that because it's a double tradeoff. But using up trait slot permanently and using the Mundus boon is kinda overkill. Even if the Reinforced trait doesn't use up the boon slot, the Lady still gives a higher minimum amount of armor. Then again, I'm a templar.

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Impen is useless on light armor in PVE. ZOS admitted no enemy Cirts in PVE so there is little sense for those who don't PVP to use it.

I use Reinforced for my Light Armor wearing vamp sorcerer and it is a significant enough bonus to let me solo most Public Dungeons without dying more than twice at most, and I don't have to have a shield eat up a slot on my skills bar.

What they need to do is rebalance Light and Heavy armor so that Light Armor gives better Spell Protection and Heavy Armor less.

PVE wasn't the entire focus of the idea. Light armor gets rekt by stealth attacks in PVP for it's weaker armor. (Most mages run around with radiant magelight.) Having it get less rekt wouldn't be a total loss. (The mage is still probably going to die from the next hit.)

I'll also note, you are using a vamp (elusive mist) sorc (bound armor) so your build is kinda made to be a little tanky. But point taken on the heavy armor spell protection.

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Spottswoode wrote: »

I'll also note, you are using a vamp (elusive mist) sorc (bound armor) so your build is kinda made to be a little tanky. But point taken on the heavy armor spell protection.

I actually don't use either of those skill at all. Haven't ever spent any skill points in them. Never will. But I also don't PVP.. never will. Only go there to get the bonus and leave.

Undeath (assuming it's actually working correctly) and conjured ward.

Nah, it's entirely possible to be tankish with just a healstaff.

As much as reinforced is currently awesome for heavy armor and as much as the game would remain unbroken if there were no changes to reinforced, op has a point.

Why not make reinforced better for non heavy types?

While we are at it introduce trait changing, remove charged, and tell us if weighted actually does something or not.

I like my reinforced armor. I'm a tanky templar and I'm working on getting it so that everything I make for myself will have the reinforced trait... don't touch it.

Sturdy trait helps minimise degradation on your armour, but since most people can afford repair kits or repair costs, it's not worth it.

Also, who uses well-fitted unless they have no choice? Seriously?

Lastly, reinforced is fine atm, the only issue it when compared to nirnhoned and how it stacks and works atm. Change one to act as the other and then it'll be worth putting on heavy armour for tanking.

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

Sturdy trait helps minimise degradation on your armour, but since most people can afford repair kits or repair costs, it's not worth it.

Also, who uses well-fitted unless they have no choice? Seriously?

Lastly, reinforced is fine atm, the only issue it when compared to nirnhoned and how it stacks and works atm. Change one to act as the other and then it'll be worth putting on heavy armour for tanking.

1. Sturdy doesn't add anything useful to the equation by your own logic. It also doesn't give any armor as my suggestion does and my suggestion doesn't detract from Sturdy's purpose. The sole purpose of sturdy is to slow armor degradation.
2. Hit and run archers use it frequently.
3. ....we use it for tanking now? I mean, if you don't want to use up your boon slot for armor, you're pretty much going to use Reinforced.
The usefulness of the Reinforced trait for heavy armor is not questioned.

BuggeX wrote: »

They simply should remove reinforced and should but a traid in like nirnhorned for armor.

Or nirnhorned for both traids spell and armor defence so no new mat has to be created and the marked would stay the same and reinforced doesnt Need to be removed

Would be interesting.

Lyzaaa wrote: »

Are you high? Do you realize how hard it is to kill shield stacking sorc? Or roll dodging nightblades?

Heavy armor is weak as hell compared to those 2 lines -- now you are asking to basicly hand out flat out armor to light/medium and take away the only thing that heavy armor is good at..

Can people - For the love of god quit complaining about anything around sorc's, nightblades or even something that has remotely to do with it. Thanks

You're forgetting they have to give up impen.