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Orc Sorcerer - New racial passive updates makes master race
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The_Sadist✭✭✭✭✭Well played troll, well played.
At this point I'm quite indifferent, this is the third thread s/he has created related to racials and given the nature of ZeniMax even if racials are being changed and Orcs are the new meta for Sorcerers, it won't be for several months at least.
I'm all for rebalancing racials and making certain races more appealing, unfortunately there hasn't been any specific information released from ZeniMax regarding this and it has only been hinted at.Edited by The_Sadist on June 13, 2015 5:15PM"Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event." ― Zurin Arctus, the Underking.Tragrim - How do I work this thing?
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badmojo✭✭✭✭✭
✭You provided no new information pertaining the subject of your thread. End of story.[DC/NA]0 -
Kaide✭✭✭Well played troll, well played.
Let me get this straight....
The troll is the guy who provides links that were requested by other people for PROOF
Then those same people say its OLD INFOMATION...but do not provide any PROOF of their own
Because trolls are the ones who have facts....and the people who are not trolls have no facts and just hurl insults, request PROOF, and never provide links of their own? And on top of that the other guy still hasn't even apologized like he promised he would once I linked those facts lol
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Kaide✭✭✭You provided no new information pertaining the subject of your thread. End of story.
You very specifically stated that the links I provided were old information and even went into detail discussing the linked information....so can you please provide links that show where this information was discussed prior to what I linked? Or are you the troll?
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badmojo✭✭✭✭✭
✭He hasn't apologized because you haven't provided sources for claims of Orc Sorcerers being master race with the new racial passives. All you provided was a link that said they have plans to allow players to change their race.
I called you a troll because you keep ignoring that point, you won't respond to it, or even acknowledge it.[DC/NA]0 -
badmojo✭✭✭✭✭
✭"No new information" =/= "The information you provided was old"
because the information you provided was off-topic, irrelevant, about something else, etc, etc.
Edited by badmojo on June 13, 2015 5:26PM[DC/NA]0 -
Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Can totally comprehend and respect your disdain for dealing with trolling and misinformation threads.
Personally just hit the link and did a quick ctrl+F for the words Race and Racial.
If he requested information then never read it.....isn't he the troll? Im just simply doing research and providing facts for the illiterate
Your thread provides misinformation in the title, and no new information throughout.
ZOS announced race changes back in April and has been alluding to changes to racial passives since before 1.6."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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Kaide✭✭✭He hasn't apologized because you haven't provided sources for claims of Orc Sorcerers being master race with the new racial passives. All you provided was a link that said they have plans to allow players to change their race.
I called you a troll because you keep ignoring that point, you won't respond to it, or even acknowledge it.
I only provided information about allowing players to change race? Were you unable to read the few remaining sentences talking about them updating the racials? You said this was old info....yet cant provide any links to when this information was discussed prior to what I linked....
Edited by Kaide on June 13, 2015 5:54PM0 -
Kaide✭✭✭ZOS announced race changes back in April and has been alluding to changes to racial passives since before 1.6.
Excellent! Then it should be easy for you to provide links to when they discussed this prior to what I linked! I provided links...not sure why others cant....oh that's right...because they aren't dealing with facts and I am
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Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭ZOS announced race changes back in April and has been alluding to changes to racial passives since before 1.6.
Excellent! Then it should be easy for you to provide links to when they discussed this prior to what I linked! I provided links...not sure why others cant....oh that's right...because they aren't dealing with facts and I am
Here is a thread containing discussion of the ESO Live episode where Race Changes were first brought up as a serious thing:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1724886/
Thread posted on April 13th, so if you want the actual ZOS reference check their Twitch stream from that timeframe.
Cannot link directly to the Twitch at this time due to not being able to access Twitch from here.
Will go back through the PTS forum from before 1.6 dropped and work on locating the references to Racial passive changes.
Unlike the the Race Change Crown Shop thread, the passive changes was not one that shows up in my threads list due to not posting in it."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭ESO Live Ask Us Anything transcript posted January 16th.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »...
Are you guys planning on looking at Racial passives again after Update 6? Because some of the better Racial passives are going to be vastly better after that patch.
Absolutely, and we may even have time to get some changes made on PTS if you have specific feedback for us.
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Wherein they told us that after 1.6 (what we are currently on) they would work on updating Racial passives.
Link: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1479760#Comment_1479760
Then February 3rd on the PTS Patch notes for 1.6.1:
(Bolded/Italicized my emphasis)ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »are you serious? care to do some serious work on racial passives balance?
Why are you ignoring threads regarding racial imbalance/race change
(like this for example or plethora other topics regarding the issue)?
Our work on racial passives is ongoing. We have read the thread you linked, as well as others. With the recent changes from today's patch, which specifically do you feel could use looking at?
Wherein Jessica responded to a complaint that after promising to work on Racial Passives only Bosmer received an update thus far.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1532063#Comment_1532063
Those of us that have been playing the game for an extended period are well aware of their plans and how they were put on hiatus for work on consoles.
Do not expect to see any changes to Orcs to make them perform better with Magicka though.
Currently, Orc is fairly well balanced with other Warrior archetype races (Nord for Ebonheart and Khajiit for Aldmeri)
The complaints that people are issuing out is that Warrior races do not DPS as well as DPS races while discounting the fact that they are better designed for tanking.
Cannot blame ZOS for being unclear on how to "fix" what is not actually all that broken. It is not ZOS' fault that players are looking at races through particular lenses and then complaining that ones not designed to fit what they want aren't fitting what they want.
People keep taking the "play as you want" as meaning that all Classes and Races will perform the exactly the same in every circumstance, and it was never really advertised that way to begin with."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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badmojo✭✭✭✭✭
✭People keep taking the "play as you want" as meaning that all Classes and Races will perform the exactly the same in every circumstance, and it was never really advertised that way to begin with.
Exactly, your free choice of a playstyle actually determines your best choices for class and race. Of course players can still play how they want and chose a subpar class and race, but at that point I don't think they have any grounds to complain about it not performing to min/max standards.
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Kaide✭✭✭ZOS announced race changes back in April and has been alluding to changes to racial passives since before 1.6.
Excellent! Then it should be easy for you to provide links to when they discussed this prior to what I linked! I provided links...not sure why others cant....oh that's right...because they aren't dealing with facts and I am
Here is a thread containing discussion of the ESO Live episode where Race Changes were first brought up as a serious thing:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1724886/
Thread posted on April 13th, so if you want the actual ZOS reference check their Twitch stream from that timeframe.
Cannot link directly to the Twitch at this time due to not being able to access Twitch from here.
Will go back through the PTS forum from before 1.6 dropped and work on locating the references to Racial passive changes.
Unlike the the Race Change Crown Shop thread, the passive changes was not one that shows up in my threads list due to not posting in it.
lol he doesn't even mention making tweaks to the weaker races
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Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭ZOS announced race changes back in April and has been alluding to changes to racial passives since before 1.6.
Excellent! Then it should be easy for you to provide links to when they discussed this prior to what I linked! I provided links...not sure why others cant....oh that's right...because they aren't dealing with facts and I am
Here is a thread containing discussion of the ESO Live episode where Race Changes were first brought up as a serious thing:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1724886/
Thread posted on April 13th, so if you want the actual ZOS reference check their Twitch stream from that timeframe.
Cannot link directly to the Twitch at this time due to not being able to access Twitch from here.
Will go back through the PTS forum from before 1.6 dropped and work on locating the references to Racial passive changes.
Unlike the the Race Change Crown Shop thread, the passive changes was not one that shows up in my threads list due to not posting in it.
lol he doesn't even mention making tweaks to the weaker races
"Weaker races" being what, Argonian?
Can agree that Argonian needs to be looked at, their best build (which was even within their Archetype) was gutted.
The people complaining about things like Nord/Orc/Khajiit are mainly complaining because they want those races to perform a different role than what they are designed to.
Not going to complain if my Nord gets a higher health buff on Resist Cold.
Do not expect my Nord to suddenly get a buff to Spell Damage or something otherwise unusual though."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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