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ZOS seriously can't perma-ban known hackers?

  • xaraan
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    That's because they don't actually investigate anything. They might check a recent log or two to see if something is flagged on a reported player, but other than that - nada. If they cared, a GM could watch a player and find out if they are cheating/exploiting/hacking in no time and get rid of them for good.
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  • FireCowCommando
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    i know players who have even used 3rd party programs to exploit, done it until they decided to quit the game on their own time (months).

    The players who i know got banned were due to:

    1. Extreme in game harassment.
    2. farming 40+ players purposefully for AP gain over days.


    They dont ban players who cheat with 3rd party programs.
    Edited by FireCowCommando on June 11, 2015 2:47AM
  • Xiphyla
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    Why bother posting thread regarding this kind of stuffs , it's not like the ZOS care :p.
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  • olemanwinter
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    Bouvin wrote: »
    The sad part is..

    When ZoS refuses to take action. The only message they send is go ahead and cheat.

    This just means more people taking advantage of these exploits, which is bad for the game overall. This type of exploit + lack of response by game developer is why people leave.

    Absolutely right. Heck, the only people I see getting banned are people on the forums pointing out the CHEATING of others.

    In ESO cheating = good. lucky = good.

    If you don't cheat, and you haven't gotten lucky enough to get the drops you want....at this point...why bother playing?
  • Joy_Division
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    I've seen all the videos, and not one of them shows proof these two guys are hacking or cheating in any way. If anybody thinks they know how they are reducing their damage so much, then by all means tell us!

    I see people mentioning the Light of Cyrodiil set... is this set's 5 pc bonus bugged? If so, then maybe somebody who actually owns this (very expensive) set should do some testing with Mist Form and various Sorc spells to see what happens.

    Did it ever occur to any of you that ZoS investigated these guys and simply didn't find jack squat wrong with them? That's BY FAR the most likely explanation for their actions regarding this issue.

    What's so hilarious about the clowns who always complain about these guys is, if you watch their videos, THEY never take any damage either! All I see is a bunch of Sorcs chasing each other all over Cyrodiil with massive Wards up 24/7, peppering each other with dinky, un-procced Mage's Furies and wondering why nobody is taking any damage. Ridiculous!

    We have add-ons that tell us how much damage they take and whether or not that damage it mitigated, blocked, absorbed, etc. The player who shall not be named has consistently taken 871 damage from multiple dragon leaps from me when he has no shield active, is not blocking, or has any other effects that might absorb it. Similar extreme percentage reductions have happened on abilities such as force pulse, flame lash, deep breathe, and others. These are not isolated occurrences that could happen from an unknown confluence of factors. These are consistent.

    It is possible ZoS investigated the player in question and his accomplice and found nothing. That doesn't mean those players aren't cheating. Has it ever occurred to you that ZoS is apathetic about the issue or incompetent?

    If you fight me in Cyrodiil, when I take no damage, your add-on will tell you why: it is absorbed by my hardened ward, I blocked it, your projectile hit my ball of lightning, etc. This is why nobody has ever accused me of being a cheat.
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  • Alcast
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    So tired of seeing the same guy hacking for months on end. ZOS just do what you have to do. GET RID OF HIM. By himself he isn't a problem but he runs with one other hacker and then a zerg of EP pugs always join up with him and it is just impossible to do anything about it. YOU ARE LOSING PLAYERS BECAUSE OF YOUR INABILITY TO STOMP OUT HACKS!!!

    ZOS said permablock/blockcasting/animation canceling is fine.

    And ye, it is compelelty bs, same with WHIP/Conceled weapon hitting through dodgeroll.

    Edited by Alcast on June 11, 2015 9:24AM
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  • Valymer
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    So tired of seeing the same guy hacking for months on end. ZOS just do what you have to do. GET RID OF HIM. By himself he isn't a problem but he runs with one other hacker and then a zerg of EP pugs always join up with him and it is just impossible to do anything about it. YOU ARE LOSING PLAYERS BECAUSE OF YOUR INABILITY TO STOMP OUT HACKS!!!

    ZOS said permablock/blockcasting/animation canceling is fine.

    And ye, it is compelelty bs, same with WHIP/Conceled weapon hitting through dodgeroll.

    Lol if only this was about those things, Alcast. I just watched Erock's video and some that other people filmed of the same individuals, this is hacking/exploiting at its finest my friend.

    ZOS just doesn't care.
  • Armitas
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    SLy_Kyti wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Can someone point me to the official list of what behaviors and actions are considered by ZOS to be an exploit in PvP?

    The best I can point you to (relevant to both points ONE: why are some silenced for complaining and TWO: what is considered an exploit)...

    We do not permit the bashing of individuals (including ZeniMax employees),groups, or other companies on our forums. We believe that doing so is neither constructive nor in spirit of our game and community.

    Please understand that our goal is to create a fun, welcoming, and safe environment for The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited community, and continued violations of our Code of Conduct can lead to temporary suspension or permanent deactivation of your forum account. We encourage you to take a moment to review The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited Code of Conduct to prevent future infractions or the interruption of your access to the forums.


    THAT IS FROM >>>forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/60843

    You can find all the legalese at the bottom of this forum under the "support" header, Like the Terms >> http://www.zenimax.com/legal_terms_us

    I suggest those unfamiliar with the history of these discussion topics enter the word "exploit" in the search bar above or use Uncle Google...As for me when I see a certain B word player..I leave that campaign and play elsweyr.
    Sly

    [edited for spellinx errs]

    Sorry for the confusion, that was meant to be rhetorical. This is something we really should have if they are at all serious about specific exploits.
    Edited by Armitas on June 11, 2015 10:23AM
    Retired.
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  • dennissomb16_ESO
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    My fear is this lack of action on potential exploiting/hacking is yet another side product of the "console" release. Many of the hacking issues seen in the PC version cannot happen on the console side. It seems pretty obvious that ZOS is betting their future on console players and lack of action on hackers in the PC client is one of the casualties. Maybe a bit paranoid on myself, but watching those videos I really have no other answer for the lack of banning of those players or even a reasonable response
  • God_flakes
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    Another reason I hope console flops. It's what they deserve after how they have dissed us.
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