Looks Like Console Launch Is Going Splendidly

  • Dragonphart
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    Ley wrote: »
    I'm not a console user myself but reading through the forums seem to suggest that the console launch isn't going quite as well as one may have hoped. Wonder how long before they iron out all the bugs and we can start talking about new content.

    Hey guys, remember this is a launch of an MMO game. They always have warts, being the ugly coding beasts they are. The only one that did not have warts on launch was DAoC. That game launch was smooth as a babies behind. :smile:

  • nastuug
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    Ley wrote: »
    I'm not a console user myself but reading through the forums seem to suggest that the console launch isn't going quite as well as one may have hoped. Wonder how long before they iron out all the bugs and we can start talking about new content.

    So, in order to get new content as pc users, we waited for the console launch and now we must wait again for console bug fixes...This really is BS...

    After console fix...
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    Are you kidding me? This all seems rather mild. Especially compared to the PC launch. Meanwhile, while many of my fellow PC players are sour grapes, hoping for and looking for the worst to happen, I've been hopping around answering questions for new players.
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    Ley wrote: »
    I'm not a console user myself but reading through the forums seem to suggest that the console launch isn't going quite as well as one may have hoped. Wonder how long before they iron out all the bugs and we can start talking about new content.

    My two cents from PS4.

    I have been able to log in unmolested any time I want on the NA server, no delays. :smile: I am not sure whether the long login times and queues are NA or EU, but if they are NA, I am lucky.

    The game is responsive, although there is some stuttering in high population areas, like Devon's Watch, with no disconnects or drops. My PS4 characters are all low level. There are tons of people around, all crammed into the lower level zones, which undoubtedly contributes to this. I am wondering if there is anything ZOS can do on their end or if it is just the PS4 not being able to keep up.

    I have encountered a few bugs, mostly visual in nature, but nothing that prevents me from playing the game, which I am quite enjoying on the PS4.

    I expect that they will have patches out over the next 2-3 weeks, but that is hardly unexpected.

    I was there for the PC/Mac launch, and in comparison, this is much smoother and with a lot fewer bugs.

    That said, not everything is perfect. I struggled a LOT with figuring out the Dye Station and how it worked. I accidentally clicked through the help that popped up, so I do not know if that would have helped. After I sacrificed 2 chickens and a goat and burned a few sticks of incense, I was able to figure it out. My voice is gone from chanting incantations.

    I do think that they need to improve the roleplaying aspect on the console. Bring back character names where it matters, even if they leave the account names visible. I can ignore the "xXxBigManlyPackagexXx" account names if I have to.

    I am on the fence with voice chat vs text chat. I can see the utility of text chat, but I think that if they want to dump it completely they will have to institute alternative measures like "Looking For Guild" and "Looking To Sell/Buy" like they have done with "Looking for Group".
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  • c0rp
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    Its an MMO LAUNCH...nothing to see here, move along please...
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  • VincentBlanquin
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    Alp2760 wrote: »
    Other than having to wait about an hour before I could log in at midnight on launch, I've had next to no issues at all. Crashed a couple of times in around 12 hours which is nothing. Not had any lag other than maybe a touch very briefly a couple of times.

    Every game that is online has issues. Given how negative the community appears I general, I was expecting the worst and almost didn't buy the game at all after reading on here. Compared to a lot of other games, this has been a nigh on perfect launch and I've loved playing. Only bad thing is I have to go back to work tomorrow so can't sit and play for hours at a time but I'll live with that.

    A side note though - this is probably the single most negative community I have seen. Not everyone, seen some really helpful posters but having browsed the forum on and off for the last month or so, I was surprised to see just how bad it was. So much negativity, complaining and also snideyness/bitterness towards console players. Hope the console community steers away from that.

    you dont understand whole picture yet. everybody will agree that game is good from lvl1 to 50. once you experience after 50 you will see and probably understand whats going on, if they dont fix it till then. better think about fix it before consoles become veterans

    game is worth to buy, but needs a lot of work on
    Edited by VincentBlanquin on June 10, 2015 1:22PM
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  • nastuug
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    c0rp wrote: »
    Its an MMO LAUNCH...nothing to see here, move along please...

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    Edited by nastuug on June 10, 2015 1:22PM
  • Alp2760
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    Nhoxxx wrote: »
    Well, community is not that bad, but you got to understand. Put people into a game with a lot of bugs, lack of content overtime, and other weird stuff, let them ask for fix/changes/content for months without speaking to them and you got this community.
    People totally disappointed by ZOS and their lack of communication but still hoping someday things will get better.
    So my guess is, once ZOS starts to consider their customers like real customers, and try to do things better, maybe the community will lose is bitterness (I definitely hope so).

    Maybe people's expectations etc are different to mine but if I felt a game was as you describe. I'd stop playing and do something else. Simple. I have played dcuo since launch and if it'd having problems or I'm bored of the content, I go away and do something else. Few months later I'll hop back once new content drops.

    I submitted a ticket yesterday due to not having an invitation to the forums. About 5 hours later, an email pops up with an invite code. What is the betting that entitled people with a similar experience would have been whining about a disgraceful service? Was a lot quicker than I hoped to be honest. Or moaning that they aren't cared about.

    Of course they will consider their customers as customers. I see similar complaints on every single forum I've been on 'devs don't care' 'they just want a cash cow' 'they can't be bothered updating us' the complaints are literally so universal - from this to dcuo, to never winter, to fifa and beyond. Think a lot of the time, the problem is us gamers. Not saying ZOS are perfect but to say they can't be bothered or don't care is in accurate. I'm pretty sure they are doing what they can to ensure they make as much money as possible and not caring wouldn't make sense at all.

    The only difference with this community (not everyone just in general) is I struggle to find anything positive at all so can't understand why people continue playing and posting about a game they seem to hate or is boring or gives terrible service or crashes all the time etc etc etc. For me, the game is far surpassing my expectations and I'm glad I didn't let the forum put me off buying because I'm not seeing many issues at all. Maybe pc is different though.
  • Alp2760
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    Ley wrote: »
    I'm not a console user myself but reading through the forums seem to suggest that the console launch isn't going quite as well as one may have hoped. Wonder how long before they iron out all the bugs and we can start talking about new content.

    So, in order to get new content as pc users, we waited for the console launch and now we must wait again for console bug fixes...This really is BS...

    Can you quote a Dev saying this is the case?

    If not, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You're speculating something, then making it into a fact in your own head, then calling it bs as if it is a fact. SMH

    Why it play something else for a few months until the pc side is fixed and new content drops instead of repeatedly complaining if you're unhappy with the current state of the game?
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    Alp2760 wrote: »
    Ley wrote: »
    I'm not a console user myself but reading through the forums seem to suggest that the console launch isn't going quite as well as one may have hoped. Wonder how long before they iron out all the bugs and we can start talking about new content.

    So, in order to get new content as pc users, we waited for the console launch and now we must wait again for console bug fixes...This really is BS...

    Can you quote a Dev saying this is the case?

    If not, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You're speculating something, then making it into a fact in your own head, then calling it bs as if it is a fact. SMH

    Why it play something else for a few months until the pc side is fixed and new content drops instead of repeatedly complaining if you're unhappy with the current state of the game?

    I'm fairly certain that multiple ZOS employees have stated multiple times that their main focus was on console launch at least until after the kinks were ironed out.
    Edited by Sallington on June 10, 2015 1:45PM
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  • Alp2760
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    Sallington wrote: »
    Alp2760 wrote: »
    Ley wrote: »
    I'm not a console user myself but reading through the forums seem to suggest that the console launch isn't going quite as well as one may have hoped. Wonder how long before they iron out all the bugs and we can start talking about new content.

    So, in order to get new content as pc users, we waited for the console launch and now we must wait again for console bug fixes...This really is BS...

    Can you quote a Dev saying this is the case?

    If not, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You're speculating something, then making it into a fact in your own head, then calling it bs as if it is a fact. SMH

    Why it play something else for a few months until the pc side is fixed and new content drops instead of repeatedly complaining if you're unhappy with the current state of the game?

    I'm fairly certain that multiple ZOS employees have stated multiple times that their main focus was on console launch at least until after the kinks were ironed out.

    If that is the case, why not just play or do something else in the meantime? If the answer is because they like the game too much, then it can't be that bad and surely waiting wouldn't be an issue? If they don't like the game enough, why carry on playing it and post about it?
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    Alp2760 wrote: »
    Ley wrote: »
    I'm not a console user myself but reading through the forums seem to suggest that the console launch isn't going quite as well as one may have hoped. Wonder how long before they iron out all the bugs and we can start talking about new content.

    So, in order to get new content as pc users, we waited for the console launch and now we must wait again for console bug fixes...This really is BS...

    Can you quote a Dev saying this is the case?

    If not, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You're speculating something, then making it into a fact in your own head, then calling it bs as if it is a fact. SMH

    Why it play something else for a few months until the pc side is fixed and new content drops instead of repeatedly complaining if you're unhappy with the current state of the game?

    This has been repeated multiple times by many ZOS employees here. When asked for content/major fixes, we were told, "After console." It's only fair to assume that they still won't do smack with PC until console is cleaned up.
  • oehk
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    I think its going great. I never got to see the death/ghost screen this often on PC. I think its added feature to be attacked by invisible mobs, and not be able to target them back, only to discover 4 minutes later that you actually d/c'd 10 minutes ago and have really been dead the whole time until it freezes, then crashes to home screen (XB1).

    Then you get to play that awesome new mini-game called "Click (A) 100 times while failing to logon due to an un-expected internal error". I would think after 2 hours of it happening, it would not be so un-expected anymore.

    Oh and the lag (10-15 second delay) when selecting dialog options, is spectacular since once it catches up you have no idea what the F you selected or asked.

    Splendid.
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    Alp2760 wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    Alp2760 wrote: »
    Ley wrote: »
    I'm not a console user myself but reading through the forums seem to suggest that the console launch isn't going quite as well as one may have hoped. Wonder how long before they iron out all the bugs and we can start talking about new content.

    So, in order to get new content as pc users, we waited for the console launch and now we must wait again for console bug fixes...This really is BS...

    Can you quote a Dev saying this is the case?

    If not, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You're speculating something, then making it into a fact in your own head, then calling it bs as if it is a fact. SMH

    Why it play something else for a few months until the pc side is fixed and new content drops instead of repeatedly complaining if you're unhappy with the current state of the game?

    I'm fairly certain that multiple ZOS employees have stated multiple times that their main focus was on console launch at least until after the kinks were ironed out.

    If that is the case, why not just play or do something else in the meantime? If the answer is because they like the game too much, then it can't be that bad and surely waiting wouldn't be an issue? If they don't like the game enough, why carry on playing it and post about it?

    It's an MMO, players for this genre tend to be dedicated to exsisting in the game regularly. They usually try to continue to play and hope for improvements in the areas they enjoy long after the decline in their enjoyment.

    That being said, there is a decided lack of content for every single way to play this game, besides spending crowns. All players being effected negatively combined with the slow decline of enjoyment because of the lack of any content development = entire community bitter.

    Well, more like half a community and shrinking at this stage.

    I hope ZoS gets their act together and starts running like a gaming company, and treats paying customers as such. Fact is PC players sub money funded console development. They literally payed for another persons game, while being misled as to where the money they paid was being spent.

    Goodluck console ESO! PC ESO, well... i think everyone has seen the massive increase in goodbye/death of pvp threads the past MONTHS.

    100% chance of console release money being siphoned away to develop the next Fallout/game they make.
    Edited by FireCowCommando on June 10, 2015 2:04PM
  • Bloodfang
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    Alp2760 wrote: »
    Other than having to wait about an hour before I could log in at midnight on launch, I've had next to no issues at all. Crashed a couple of times in around 12 hours which is nothing. Not had any lag other than maybe a touch very briefly a couple of times.

    Every game that is online has issues. Given how negative the community appears I general, I was expecting the worst and almost didn't buy the game at all after reading on here. Compared to a lot of other games, this has been a nigh on perfect launch and I've loved playing. Only bad thing is I have to go back to work tomorrow so can't sit and play for hours at a time but I'll live with that.

    A side note though - this is probably the single most negative community I have seen. Not everyone, seen some really helpful posters but having browsed the forum on and off for the last month or so, I was surprised to see just how bad it was. So much negativity, complaining and also snideyness/bitterness towards console players. Hope the console community steers away from that.

    It's just like that on this forum. This is where all the negative people gather to bash ESO lol.
    Visit Reddit ESO, it's way better there.
  • GooglyEyedDog
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    I purchased the Imperial version.

    I have two accounts on my one console and got the Imperial version on one and the basic game on the other. Apparently I am not the only one to whom this has happened. Some people have got the basic game only on their account despite pre ordering and or paying for the Imperial Copy.

    I have been E-mailing both ESO and Playstation but there is no satisfactory resolution as yet.

    Would be grateful to hear from anybody for whom this problem has been rectified
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    Great...so while ZOS focuses on fixing the cash grab that is console version, new content is going to go by the wayside.
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    oehk wrote: »
    I think its added feature to be attacked by invisible mobs, and not be able to target them back, only to discover 4 minutes later that you actually d/c'd 10 minutes ago and have really been dead the whole time

    I knew they never should have let M. Night Shyamalan write for this game. Big mistake.

  • nastuug
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    oehk wrote: »
    I think its added feature to be attacked by invisible mobs, and not be able to target them back, only to discover 4 minutes later that you actually d/c'd 10 minutes ago and have really been dead the whole time

    I knew they never should have let M. Night Shyamalan write for this game. Big mistake.

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    Alp2760 wrote: »
    Other than having to wait about an hour before I could log in at midnight on launch, I've had next to no issues at all. Crashed a couple of times in around 12 hours which is nothing. Not had any lag other than maybe a touch very briefly a couple of times.

    I think that most people will have an experience much the same. The forum tends to amplify the magnitude of problems to one degree or another. I am not saying that there are no problems, or that they should not be fixed.

    In my case, the PS4 game is running pretty smoothly, with some stutter in high population areas. This is slightly worse than what I experience on the PC version. I have very little problem on the PC version, outside of uncommon PVE and Cyrodiil lag.
    Alp2760 wrote: »
    A side note though - this is probably the single most negative community I have seen. Not everyone, seen some really helpful posters but having browsed the forum on and off for the last month or so, I was surprised to see just how bad it was. So much negativity, complaining and also snideyness/bitterness towards console players. Hope the console community steers away from that.

    The forum community is very passionate about what they think the game should be like. :smile:
    Alp2760 wrote: »
    Ley wrote: »
    I'm not a console user myself but reading through the forums seem to suggest that the console launch isn't going quite as well as one may have hoped. Wonder how long before they iron out all the bugs and we can start talking about new content.

    So, in order to get new content as pc users, we waited for the console launch and now we must wait again for console bug fixes...This really is BS...

    Can you quote a Dev saying this is the case?

    We can quote devs, community managers, and even the producers and the head of the studio. :smile:

    What we are waiting for now, and what is really more important than what was said in the past, is the news about the future. This will likely come from Matt Firor, in a statement with a little more depth than the message that came out Tuesday.




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    Bloodfang wrote: »
    Alp2760 wrote: »
    Other than having to wait about an hour before I could log in at midnight on launch, I've had next to no issues at all. Crashed a couple of times in around 12 hours which is nothing. Not had any lag other than maybe a touch very briefly a couple of times.

    Every game that is online has issues. Given how negative the community appears I general, I was expecting the worst and almost didn't buy the game at all after reading on here. Compared to a lot of other games, this has been a nigh on perfect launch and I've loved playing. Only bad thing is I have to go back to work tomorrow so can't sit and play for hours at a time but I'll live with that.

    A side note though - this is probably the single most negative community I have seen. Not everyone, seen some really helpful posters but having browsed the forum on and off for the last month or so, I was surprised to see just how bad it was. So much negativity, complaining and also snideyness/bitterness towards console players. Hope the console community steers away from that.

    It's just like that on this forum. This is where all the negative people gather to bash ESO lol.
    Visit Reddit ESO, it's way better there.

    Yeah, you fanboys go brown-nose ZOS over on Reddit, we'll stick to telling the truths here in the meantime. Word gets around fast enough.
  • pasmith_ESO
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    Playing on PS4. I've had 1 crash. Logging in hasn't been an issue. [Edit: Actually last night after I crashed I had a queue to log back in, but it was 11:30 so I opted to head to bed,] A bit of lag in cities, for sure.

    My only real complaint is seeing gamertags rather than character names.
    Edited by pasmith_ESO on June 10, 2015 2:32PM
  • NukeAllTheThings
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    This has been a better MMO launch than most. I was able to put in about 12 hrs of gametime on day 1. How many other MMO's can we say that about on launch day? Along the same thought, when Defiance was released on the 360 it took about a week before you could game 2-4 hrs in one setting. For the most part, good job ZOS.

    How many of those MMO's were in "paid beta" for over a year on PC before being released on console? Defiance was definitely a bad launch.....much like ESO on pc :smile:
    "it's important to state that our decision to go with subscriptions is not a referendum on online game revenue models. F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery. Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days." - Matt Firor
  • Kazzy56
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    PC players have been playing the game for over year...and some are still complaining? This 'console peasant' waited over a year and listened to some of the 'master race' crowing and complaining in equal amounts.
    I refuse to be influenced by the negativity I see and hear from those who are, by the way, still playing the game despite their complaints/insults/assumptions/and plain myths.
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  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Xendyn wrote: »
    PC gamers paid a sub fee and endured game breaking bugs for a year to make console a great experience and it still was a terrible launch???

    How is that even possible? They had all of our moneys we paid to pay a year long broken beta. Oh wait, even though almost everyone reported bugs day one, the were only fixed about 3 months later. So console was launched with bugs we discovered three months ago when they were magically turned into features. :)


    Wheres my foldy chair and popcorn?

    pssst
    we're over here >>>>> forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/174290/thread-for-pc-users/p1

    @Xendyn Thanks! That's exactly what I needed.

    We can watch a whole new demographic of gamers rush into this game with wide eyes full excitement, hopes and dreams and slowly see those hopes fade as disillusionment sets in and disappointment begins. When the thin coat of elder scrolls paint starts to fade and the bland, barren and repetitive themepark MMO beneath is revealed, with all of its bugs, lags, inconsistencies and bizarre design choices.

    We're gonna need a bigger popcorn container.
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on June 10, 2015 7:32PM
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    100% chance of console release money being siphoned away to develop the next Fallout/game they make.

    Well at least the money be spent on something useful. :p LOL

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    100% chance of console release money being siphoned away to develop the next Fallout/game they make.

    Well at least the money be spent on something useful. :p LOL

    Yeah, I'd be totally fine with that as well. :)
  • Heromofo
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    Uuum yeah i wouldn't judge it by the forums, i posted some bugs that are odd on console but i am so impressed with the console version i subscribe to ESO. I dont need the crowns or percentage but just because i wish to support this amazing thing they gave birth to lol.

    If you know me on the forums then you know i don't standa for lie and crap from ZOS but the console version is brillant.
    Give it a month and most bugs will be ironed out but i do hope they don't listen to the forums and put in a chat box because i
    Really enjoy the voice channels. :)
  • nastuug
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    Uuum yeah i wouldn't judge it by the forums, i posted some bugs that are odd on console but i am so impressed with the console version i subscribe to ESO. I dont need the crowns or percentage but just because i wish to support this amazing thing they gave birth to lol.

    If you know me on the forums then you know i don't standa for lie and crap from ZOS but the console version is brillant.
    Give it a month and most bugs will be ironed out but i do hope they don't listen to the forums and put in a chat box because i
    Really enjoy the voice channels. :)

    @Heromofo So just disable the text chat box when it goes live, ya dirty Aussie!
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