Several MMOs have included integrated voice. And while it's not always perfect, it's been a huge asset. Not everybody has access to a TS server and it's not fair that they continue to rely on 3rd party applications to do things that they are more than capable of doing. It would be a huge asset in a game like ESO, and help make PUGs a lot less stressful if people could just speak instructions instead of typing up a novel to explain the fights. Especially when it's very easy for group chat to get lost amongst the chatter of 5 guilds.

HydroCanuck wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Several MMOs have included integrated voice. And while it's not always perfect, it's been a huge asset. Not everybody has access to a TS server and it's not fair that they continue to rely on 3rd party applications to do things that they are more than capable of doing. It would be a huge asset in a game like ESO, and help make PUGs a lot less stressful if people could just speak instructions instead of typing up a novel to explain the fights. Especially when it's very easy for group chat to get lost amongst the chatter of 5 guilds.

You can make different chat tabs....
serveral MMO'S do not have integrated voice. That statement is false. I can think of 2 or 3 that do.

Also, everyone playing ESO is playing on a PC. Therefore everyone has access to a TS server. It's free and takes literally 2 minutes to setup. Then, instead of typing a novel, you have to type 1 line of text.

lestaudenmaierub17_ESO wrote: »

Dude, you can't even get 90% of the player base to make a forum account, and you expect them to download and set up a teamspeak server.

For "those people" there's Raid Call

I recently played another game that implemented voice chat in game. No one used it. I repeat- no one used it. People still used Teamspeak or Vent but never the in-game one.

The developers do not need to waste time on in-game voice chat for something no one will use. 90% of ESO doesn't even require voice chat at all. For the parts that do require voice chat (Trials), people happily give out their Teamspeak server info and password to anyone that joins the group.

If some player does not want to use Teamspeak, they are saying "I don't want to do voice-chat." Having in-game voice chat will not remove this. People are not anti-Teamspeak, they are anti-voicechat. It's not laziness that they won't download and install Teamspeak.

I doubt I would use the voice chat for much more than the occasional PUG. Mumble, Teamspeak and Ventrillo are all super easy to use and allow guilds to set up different rooms which is really nice.

Third party software is also nice when you're doing guild alliance stuff in PVP. We've used third party software quite a bit when organizing between multiple guilds out in PCP land.

Nestor wrote: »

I would like it for no other reason than it would give me an option to have voice chat with anyone I group with, not just those who have TS or something else. Not having to do TS means one less program running in the background and one less thing to change with each grouping.

It would not stop people from using TS if they desired, but it would ease the whole voice chat concept for those who don't want to pay for a server or set up a connection for each grouping.

This ^.

I already mentioned it in the beta also, and people always reply the same thing "There are 3rd party softwares that do this".. and yes, there are. But some people are afraid to try to set up those things that might otherwise still use them because they aren't comfortable with having to put in IP addresses or port numbers (it looks "scary" and "complicated" to them) and can't be bothered to go download a program. If it was there, they may use it.

Then, there is also the factor that speech there is unregulated, and should someone go off on someone, you can't exactly report that person. Some people likely avoid it just for that. Mind you, that would create another layer that would have to be moderated by ZOS, but I guess if they'd be doing it for consoles already (though maybe that is handled on the console side), It would just mean adding more mods.

This would open the door to the potential to speak to anyone, regardless of whether or not they have a program. And don't get me started on the number of times I have not spoken with people because they were on X program over another one and I'm sick of having to have 3+ different programs to open the door to speak to people before I hear of another one someone wants people to use.

Of course, voice chat should be optional.. there were MMOs that implemented this (with a voice modifier option for privacy reasons) and yes, the downside sometimes was that you were EXPECTED to be present on that voice chat to be included in a group, but some groups do that already anyway.

Where that would present most problem is for someone who is Deaf. I imagine though that it isn't the majority and most of you who use VoiP haven't even considered them when you demand people log into your teamspeak/ventrilo/raidcall or whatever server.

Anyway, I think it would be nice if it could be implemented, however, it is not dire and shouldn't be added over anything more important.

HydroCanuck wrote: »

If someone is too lazy and / or stupid to download and install TS or Vent, I more than likely don't want to be in a group with them anyways. "Can I bring my Drake?"

If that's your attitude, I wonder how you're getting any groups at all.

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Several MMOs have included integrated voice. And while it's not always perfect, it's been a huge asset. Not everybody has access to a TS server and it's not fair that they continue to rely on 3rd party applications to do things that they are more than capable of doing. It would be a huge asset in a game like ESO, and help make PUGs a lot less stressful if people could just speak instructions instead of typing up a novel to explain the fights. Especially when it's very easy for group chat to get lost amongst the chatter of 5 guilds.

This^^ sums it up pretty good in my opinion as well, pugs in cyrodiil being able to communicate would make for some really good battles, and in dungeons, it's a win all around for players.

HydroCanuck wrote: »

If someone is too lazy and / or stupid to download and install TS or Vent, I more than likely don't want to be in a group with them anyways. "Can I bring my Drake?"

I bet your nickname while growing up was sunshine.

I wouldn't like a mandatory voice chat at ESO, its bad enough that WOW has become a game where you cant even join the simplest groups without a mic.

Voice chat and TS should stay with high end raiders or Esports fans, leave it out from a Casual MMO like ESO.

I mostly play pvp, when I join a raid that uses teamspeak I waste my time to type the server info
every time it goes like this:

memorize info, alt tab, type, re-check the chatbox cos you can't copy the stupid text in it, memorize it again, wrong password then alt tab again... then 1 hour later joining another raid install another ptt software and repeat the process.

Don't get me wrong of course I'll be keep using voice chat programs to serve my group better. But like someone mentioned before I don't supposed to share my IP adress with the people I randomly met in a game. Not because I'm afraid to become vulnerable to attacks, because I'm not American and I don't want people to know where I'm from.

Other than that, I don't have to install ts3, vent, raidcall, mumble, zello, catsh*t and dogf*ck etc all together for a better gaming experience. But it's obvious that I have to for now.

Is this a new trend? These days whenever a person shares his/her opinions for a game, people defend the developer company and tell things like "no! we don't need integrated voice chat!", "hell no! we don't need underwater content!", "we don't need housing and player music!" in forums. So what's next no running and jumping? Turn off the pc and go buy magic cards then.

TL DR
In pve, well ok not having voice chat can be tolerated but surely needs to be implemented for cyrodiil.

ps. engrish ftw.

not having in game voice chat is just plain LAZINESS on Beth & ZOS

+1 for in game voice chat.

Having a standardized voice chat built into the game would be great.
Yes, lots of people will say use this and use that, but wouldn't it be better to standardize something and have it integrated nicely.

Yes other MMOs have tried it, that doesn't mean people don't want it, and just adding it doesn't mean they did integration well. Checking off a feature of a list is not that same as building something users will use.

I've been a user since ESO first release and have been backing them continuously since and something I would of like to see, but not going to this subscription less model I fear development will begin to slide downhill forget about trying anything new like this.

For me, I look at this as wishful thinking, something I would love to have but not something I see them spending development recroures on.