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  • Zyle
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    I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is the barrier between elitists and pugs. It is very extreme on DC, how can that be constructive in getting better quality players when the better players just laugh at the less experienced guys?
    Edited by Zyle on June 4, 2015 9:55AM

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  • God_flakes
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    loki547 wrote: »
    Grom is a good guy, we've talked several times about the sad state of DC guilds. After hearing him in TS I picture him looking like Artie Lange haha
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    ....And after hearing Teargrants in TS, I picture him looking like
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    Roflmao! Spot on about Grom. Never talked to Tear in Ts but would lurv to!!!
  • God_flakes
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    I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is the barrier between elitists and pugs. It is very extreme on DC, how can that be constructive in getting better quality players when the better players just laugh at the less experienced guys?

    It's been said since the Dawn of this game that DC is incapable of working together. Many of us have tried helping them work together. And to put a fine point on this, last week I saw 2 large guilds claim to have a combined 5 full raids up and yet they were still unable to accomplish much. It is deeply disappointing.
  • Oughash
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Grom reminds me of Crom reminds me of Conan the Barbarian.

    "Conan, what is best in life"

    "Destroy your enemies. See them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the women."

    er-hem...

    It's "Crush your enemies... etc etc"

    Sorry, I love that quote too much for it to be slightly off :)

    I'm movie quote OCD.

    If you're gonna be OCD, the Conan quote is derived from a Genghis Khan quote:
    The greatest joy for a man is to defeat his enemies, to drive them before him, to take from them all they possess, to see those they love in tears, to ride their horses, and to hold their wives and daughters in his arms.

    Although history dispute the exact translation and its recording (apparently 100 yrs after his death).
  • EskimoBrother
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    I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is the barrier between elitists and pugs. It is very extreme on DC, how can that be constructive in getting better quality players when the better players just laugh at the less experienced guys?
    Don't know where you're getting this from. Both Nemesis and Shortbus have tryout guilds that ANYONE is allowed to join, and as long as they show they're willing to learn and adapt to our tactics they get to play with us. Just goes to show how clueless you and npk daniel really are when you say we turn down/don't work with new players.
    Edited by EskimoBrother on June 4, 2015 12:16PM


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  • technohic
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    loki547 wrote: »
    Grom is a good guy, we've talked several times about the sad state of DC guilds. After hearing him in TS I picture him looking like Artie Lange haha
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    ....And after hearing Teargrants in TS, I picture him looking like
    Muppets-Kermit.jpg

    Great. Now I am picturing Artie in a wedding dress, to.

    BTW AD. Not cool to interrupt our roleplay.
  • BigTone
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    My guild does weekly training events and picks up pugs regularly. Sometimes it gets frustrating when someone keeps casting while the rest of the group is dark, but we do our best to educate them and teach them good pvp tactics.
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  • Minno
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    TheBull wrote: »
    You mean we have no zerg guilds?


    We have the best small group/solo fighters in all of Tamriel.

    Here here.
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  • PeggymoeXD
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    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Hey guys, I don't know about you, but I only like small man fights.... thats why I run with only 24 mans.


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  • GorraShatan
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    Poxheart wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »
    balberith wrote: »
    Simply stating fact. Blame what you will.
    1. Historic low pop
    2. Majority of the "Elite" pvp players/guilds are gone
    3. Poor/inconsistent leadership

    Congrats AD/EP Enjoy farming the stragglers and having AS/TB as buff campaigns.

    Once again, I understand that DC has less players but I will keep saying this : Stop waiting for someone to take the command. Do a favor to your faction and start groups from the zone chat. Bring them into a teamspeak, teach them how to play and how to be organized like you learned it back in the days in those epic guilds. It will be frustrating, it will require alot of patience but it will be all worth it in the end. This is how other factions got some decent guilds going from the start and I don't expect it going any different in DC. I believe that people are not "mentally affected" in DC and will learn as much as in any other faction. You just have to do your faction a favor and to make things happen.

    From what I saw on Chillrend tonight there are at least 3 groups that recruit from zone. Some require TS & some don't. Unlike the AD/EP guilds you allude to that built up back at the start, currently the game doesn't have the same population base to pull from which makes this substantially more challenging. There's also the fact that there are probably fewer high PvP rank DC players to pull from which means limited/no access to detonation & vigor (currently). Game performance is another big issue; all it takes is a couple lagged out fights at a keep or a resource and people lose interest in large groups. I suspect that by the time one of these guilds becomes as organized as their opponents, the organized AD/EP guilds will have burned out.

    That said, I'd love to see DC get one or two organized guild groups going that are capable of fighting the AD/EP organized guilds because that would improve the situation for the small man stuff that I prefer. When the fights are even on all three fronts there's more opportunity to cut off reinforcements and/or create fights behind the lines. When they're skewed the way they are now, a small man capping resources to cut off a keep just gets zerged.

    I understand that it takes some time for low players to gain access to those high AR skills but you know, my guild gets alot of new recruits from Tamriel Foundry and Official forums recruitement threads (most of them are not even vr1) and every wednesday, thursday and sunday, we get those new whelps with us and teach them what we can about Cyrodiil and try to give them as much AP as possible in the process. if EP can do it, DC can too I'm sure.

    3 open pugs is pretty good in my books too. That's about what I see AD peak at on non-vet, and less than that on the vet campaigns. So it looks like DC is at least trying to get people involved in PVP.

    Blue is doing really well in non-vet right now too. So there's hope. :3

  • x99Needles
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    Poxheart wrote: »
    I may have busted on Vehemence in other threads, but I can't say I've ever seen them run with 40 pugs backing them up unless ALL of EP was fighting at one spot.
    Because I don't, thank you Pox :)
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  • Publius_Scipio
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    Those DC in Chillrend.... You lack BICEPS.
  • Karamis_Vimardon
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    Those DC in Chillrend.... You lack BICEPS.

    That's why I heal :wink:

    Suppose I could lend a hand with the NPK healers, any objections @NPK Daniel?
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  • Publius_Scipio
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    Those DC in Chillrend.... You lack BICEPS.

    That's why I heal :wink:

    Suppose I could lend a hand with the NPK healers, any objections @NPK Daniel?

    I don't know of any NPK in Chillrend. I know AXN, HD55, and now Chimera. AXN lack muscle mass, HD55 left Chill for a week or two maybe a month ago and came back a shell of its former self, and Chimera keeps recruiting in chat but I don't see any change in the map.

    I also heard that TFL is in shambles now. Senior Fluffykins lost his mind long ago.... DC could organically just come together and fight as an alliance to at the very least hold the red and yellow zergs at bay, but that doesn't seem to happen. Red will usually take the Glade mine and farm us and just the other night WRX and his minions show up in Chill and run that yellow choo-choo train in a perfect circle around Ales farm.

    Maybe DC has really good 1v1 players? I don't know, but 1v1 isn't going to win the campaign.

    BICEPS!

  • CN_Daniel
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    I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is the barrier between elitists and pugs. It is very extreme on DC, how can that be constructive in getting better quality players when the better players just laugh at the less experienced guys?

    NPK is here to fill that role.
    Those DC in Chillrend.... You lack BICEPS.

    That's why I heal :wink:

    Suppose I could lend a hand with the NPK healers, any objections @NPK Daniel?

    Hit me up bro
  •  Jules
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    NPK Daniel wrote: »
    Everyone should play how they want, and regardless of our history with J i wish her all the best. #earbodywannabewalmart

    The point I'm trying to make is, those 2 groups of 12, have ZERO chance of stopped the big EP/AD teams when they come together and strong. Instead of DC splitting up into a million 12 warrior groups, we'd have a FAR greater chance of winning if we are all together, working together. There's a reason the best EP/AD teams don't do this 'small group thang'.
    And which guilds might those be? The best ep guilds are havoc, Vehemence and nexus...as far as i know they do not need 48 man groups to wipe you guys. Just because YOU guys have to run zerg groups doesn't mean thats the most efficient way. Try learning some tactics and self sustainability instead of always depending on numbers

    Nexus and vehemence often run with 40+ pugs up their backsides. Other than that I agree with you on everything else.

    LOL 40+ eh? I think we might've noticed such things up our backsides tyvm.
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  • CN_Daniel
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    A certain someone from a certain EP guild hit me up at 5pm:

    "We're the best, you can't stop us, etc. etc and we'll be in Chill today"

    Needless to say that person has been logged off for a couple hours now.

    Challenge met. DC LIVES!!!!!!!

    Guess you ain't the best young blood. Boss up.
  • Publius_Scipio
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    Is NPK Daniel related to a fellow named Wizard Daniel? NPK Daniel has the biceps large enough to stop the red and yellow guilds in Chillrend?
  • Karamis_Vimardon
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    Those DC in Chillrend.... You lack BICEPS.

    That's why I heal :wink:

    Suppose I could lend a hand with the NPK healers, any objections @NPK Daniel?

    I don't know of any NPK in Chillrend. I know AXN, HD55, and now Chimera. AXN lack muscle mass, HD55 left Chill for a week or two maybe a month ago and came back a shell of its former self, and Chimera keeps recruiting in chat but I don't see any change in the map.

    I also heard that TFL is in shambles now. Senior Fluffykins lost his mind long ago.... DC could organically just come together and fight as an alliance to at the very least hold the red and yellow zergs at bay, but that doesn't seem to happen. Red will usually take the Glade mine and farm us and just the other night WRX and his minions show up in Chill and run that yellow choo-choo train in a perfect circle around Ales farm.

    Maybe DC has really good 1v1 players? I don't know, but 1v1 isn't going to win the campaign.

    BICEPS!

    TFL is Tyberious' crew, he is currently on deployment overseas, thus the inactivity.

    Senior Fluffykins is LoM (Legion of Magnus), but Grunt is the leader.

    DC does have good groups that could do great things when working together, from what I've noticed though in most of their TS channels ego, elitism, or e-peen gets in the way more than anything. Too many chefs, not enough cooks!
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    2. an activity that one engages in for amusement.
  • Torquebow
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    CITADALO wrote: »
    As DC player i just need arena and battleground that's it.

    That should be fun with the state of balance in this game. This game is not balanced around arena style PvP.

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  • God_flakes
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    Those DC in Chillrend.... You lack BICEPS.

    That's why I heal :wink:

    Suppose I could lend a hand with the NPK healers, any objections @NPK Daniel?

    I don't know of any NPK in Chillrend. I know AXN, HD55, and now Chimera. AXN lack muscle mass, HD55 left Chill for a week or two maybe a month ago and came back a shell of its former self, and Chimera keeps recruiting in chat but I don't see any change in the map.

    I also heard that TFL is in shambles now. Senior Fluffykins lost his mind long ago.... DC could organically just come together and fight as an alliance to at the very least hold the red and yellow zergs at bay, but that doesn't seem to happen. Red will usually take the Glade mine and farm us and just the other night WRX and his minions show up in Chill and run that yellow choo-choo train in a perfect circle around Ales farm.

    Maybe DC has really good 1v1 players? I don't know, but 1v1 isn't going to win the campaign.

    BICEPS!

    TFL is Tyberious' crew, he is currently on deployment overseas, thus the inactivity.

    Senior Fluffykins is LoM (Legion of Magnus), but Grunt is the leader.

    DC does have good groups that could do great things when working together, from what I've noticed though in most of their TS channels ego, elitism, or e-peen gets in the way more than anything. Too many chefs, not enough cooks!

    This. So much this. Dc elites/elite guilds are the clique-iest and LOM is the WORST.
  • CN_Daniel
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    Is NPK Daniel related to a fellow named Wizard Daniel? NPK Daniel has the biceps large enough to stop the red and yellow guilds in Chillrend?


    Yes, that's me.
  • CN_Daniel
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    LOM is good people, they always come and help when asked.

    Quit bashing your own people, too few of us left.
  • Zyle
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    I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is the barrier between elitists and pugs. It is very extreme on DC, how can that be constructive in getting better quality players when the better players just laugh at the less experienced guys?
    Don't know where you're getting this from. Both Nemesis and Shortbus have tryout guilds that ANYONE is allowed to join, and as long as they show they're willing to learn and adapt to our tactics they get to play with us. Just goes to show how clueless you and npk daniel really are when you say we turn down/don't work with new players.

    You are obviously trying to start *** with NPK and me. No clue why, but it's obvious. I didn't specify you, nemesis, or shortbus. You felt the need to specify yourself.


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  • EskimoBrother
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    I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is the barrier between elitists and pugs. It is very extreme on DC, how can that be constructive in getting better quality players when the better players just laugh at the less experienced guys?
    Don't know where you're getting this from. Both Nemesis and Shortbus have tryout guilds that ANYONE is allowed to join, and as long as they show they're willing to learn and adapt to our tactics they get to play with us. Just goes to show how clueless you and npk daniel really are when you say we turn down/don't work with new players.

    You are obviously trying to start *** with NPK and me. No clue why, but it's obvious. I didn't specify you, nemesis, or shortbus. You felt the need to specify yourself.
    we're part of DC, the faction you happen to be talking about. How can you say that dc is full of elitist yet we have several guilds (not just the ones i listed, those were just examples!) who are willing to work with players who want to learn. Id like to hear which DC guilds you're talking about here...

    Not sure how im the one starting *** when it was your glorious leader Daniel who said that because we enjoy running small groups, we are elitist who only care about AP farming and do not help the faction. Sorry for pointing out how stupid that is :), not everyone needs to run 48 mans to be efficient. Quality over quantity.
    Edited by EskimoBrother on June 5, 2015 5:41AM


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  • FluffiestOne
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    I wish I could be an elitist, but you're only as good as those around you.... y'know?


    edit: If you're dc and you need help... I gotchu.
    Edited by FluffiestOne on June 5, 2015 5:31AM
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  • Zyle
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    I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is the barrier between elitists and pugs. It is very extreme on DC, how can that be constructive in getting better quality players when the better players just laugh at the less experienced guys?
    Don't know where you're getting this from. Both Nemesis and Shortbus have tryout guilds that ANYONE is allowed to join, and as long as they show they're willing to learn and adapt to our tactics they get to play with us. Just goes to show how clueless you and npk daniel really are when you say we turn down/don't work with new players.

    You are obviously trying to start *** with NPK and me. No clue why, but it's obvious. I didn't specify you, nemesis, or shortbus. You felt the need to specify yourself.
    we're part of DC, the faction you happen to be talking about. How can you say that dc is full of elitist yet we have several guilds (not just the ones i listed, those were just examples!) who are willing to work with players who want to learn. Id like to hear which DC guilds you're talking about here...

    Not sure how im the one starting *** when it was your glorious leader Daniel who said that because we enjoy running small groups, we are elitist who only care about AP farming and do not help the faction. Sorry for pointing out how stupid that is :), not everyone needs to run 48 mans to be efficient. Quality over quantity.

    So what I'm reading is, you don't like ONE comment he makes, and you keep seeking an argument.


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    Joven - LVL50 Hybrid Templar
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    Radac - LVL50 Magicka Sorcerer
    Vanikath - LVL50 Magicka DK
  • Publius_Scipio
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    I don't particularly care for about 85% of the DC Chillrend population. They lack biceps. That being said, my only goal in Cyrodiil was, is, and always will be DC campaign victory. My biceps will always fight alongside those DC that care and bring the fight to the red and yellow.

    There is absolutely no reason a solid DC fighting force couldn't give the EP and AD guilds a serious run for their money. In a game with a small hotbar there is no mystery to the red and yellow zergs. They can only feed upon a disorganized DC. At the very least you guys can just mimic what they do back at them. Stop over thinking with your brains and start thinking with your biceps.
  • CN_Daniel
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    Great job by all of DC tonight. We live! Lots of fun fighting in Azura after we got our message across to the trash talkers in chill.

    We may not be the best, we may not have the most, but you cannot doubt our heart.

    -NPK
  • CN_Daniel
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is the barrier between elitists and pugs. It is very extreme on DC, how can that be constructive in getting better quality players when the better players just laugh at the less experienced guys?

    It's been said since the Dawn of this game that DC is incapable of working together. Many of us have tried helping them work together. And to put a fine point on this, last week I saw 2 large guilds claim to have a combined 5 full raids up and yet they were still unable to accomplish much. It is deeply disappointing.

    you should check yo self before you reck yo self. All of the DC guilds was in command channel tonight together.
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