Decibel vs. Vehemence Video (2 fights)

Satiar · June 2015

War is messy. Still fun though!

Manoekin · June 2015

WRX wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

We don't have Havoc regulars with us often, but I wasn't there so I dunno.

From my understanding they were in a separate group

And apparently nymeria appreciates the footage?

She waved at the camera, but unfortunately it was during the downtime I cut out lol.

Draxys · June 2015

Good fights all around til the server decided it was going to win the day

CITADALO · June 2015

If ZOS is not going to fix the lag caused by blob zerg, Cyrodil it will be empty after 2 months.

Jules · June 2015

Great fights guys. It's really fascinating to see the fights from last night from the opposite perspective. This GvG was fun till the serious lag toward the end put a damper on things.

bosmern_ESO · June 2015

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

GG, Decibel.

1 solid win for you, one push where we disengaged and fell back, and then the final one which felt like a draw to me and we withdrew as it felt like there was no progress being made by either side.

No one's fault but ZOS's, but the lag got sillier as the fight went on. You can see some bugged dragon leaps trying to fire off through the video (I know mine broke as well) and I couldn't built ulti after no matter how many light / heavy attacks I used. I was reduced to talons spamming.

That's the type of fight I want and we just can't do it very often as the game can't handle it.

ARGH.

GG, GF. See you around.

I wish it wasnt lagging for the last fight, but it was good seeing that you guys also knew to back off because nothing was happening no matter what both groups tried.

FENGRUSH · June 2015

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

GG, Decibel.

1 solid win for you, one push where we disengaged and fell back, and then the final one which felt like a draw to me and we withdrew as it felt like there was no progress being made by either side.

No one's fault but ZOS's, but the lag got sillier as the fight went on. You can see some bugged dragon leaps trying to fire off through the video (I know mine broke as well) and I couldn't built ulti after no matter how many light / heavy attacks I used. I was reduced to talons spamming.

That's the type of fight I want and we just can't do it very often as the game can't handle it.

ARGH.

GG, GF. See you around.

I wish it wasnt lagging for the last fight, but it was good seeing that you guys also knew to back off because nothing was happening no matter what both groups tried.

This is how it was meant to be played

Leovolao · June 2015

Zerg badies !

LazyLewis · June 2015

At one point in this fight there must have been 15+ EP proxy detting and with perfectly timed barrier's no ones health dropped below 80% for the initial bomb. It was insane!

BossTuggles · June 2015

So this is a good fight in you people's eyes? I mean great job hitting them 3 buttons for a 10 minute period. Its hard for anyone to lose life when you have someone spamming BoL when everyone is at full health amirite? And that one play where you jumped around a tree. Damn that was some tactical *** right there. And that other HUGE play where you hit Rejuv aura. Damn that was some top tier pvp skill *** right there.

FENGRUSH · June 2015

LazyLewis wrote: »

At one point in this fight there must have been 15+ EP proxy detting and with perfectly timed barrier's no ones health dropped below 80% for the initial bomb. It was insane!

Imagine if those mediocre Nexus players werent there. Woulda been 20+ easy!

LazyLewis · June 2015

I'd also like to point I had no lag for EP's first 3 initial push's on us and I've got a crappy Uk Connection! Then after the 3rd wipe the lag kicked in!

Mako1132 · June 2015

BossTuggles wrote: »

So this is a good fight in you people's eyes? I mean great job hitting them 3 buttons for a 10 minute period. Its hard for anyone to lose life when you have someone spamming BoL when everyone is at full health amirite? And that one play where you jumped around a tree. Damn that was some tactical *** right there. And that other HUGE play where you hit Rejuv aura. Damn that was some top tier pvp skill *** right there.

I mean, ignoring the fight for a second... I'd bet dollars to doughnuts you really only spam like 3 abilities in PvP for the most part too.... its kind of the game we play

x99Needles · June 2015

I really appreciate seeing this point of view, it allows me to analyze the fight more than in the moment or from my own perspective. Its a shame the game cannot currently handle this as it should be able to. Was a good fight, I got the notification that WRX was on Chill and we came just to fight.

GG Decibel, till next time.

BossTuggles · June 2015

I honestly use alot more skills than these people do in an actual fight I use every skill on my one bar and 2-3 on my second. I mean but im a scrubby DC small group player. I do not have the tactical coordination of the likes of Moeniken or whoever. I mean I actually have to worry about getting overwhelmed by numbers and escape. I do not have 4 other templars spamming BoL for me and 20+ other people to come to my aid.

but hey THE WAY ITS MEANT TO BE PLAYED

bosmern_ESO · June 2015

BossTuggles wrote: »

I honestly use alot more skills than these people do in an actual fight I use every skill on my one bar and 2-3 on my second. I mean but im a scrubby DC small group player. I do not have the tactical coordination of the likes of Moeniken or whoever. I mean I actually have to worry about getting overwhelmed by numbers and escape. I do not have 4 other templars spamming BoL for me and 20+ other people to come to my aid.

but hey THE WAY ITS MEANT TO BE PLAYED

I bet you got the sypher build and everything huh?

oh wait, hold on, I know! You got some amazingly theory crafted build where you just spam wrecking blow or snipe from stealth on people riding a mount right?! Geez, only if we could all be as skilled as you are.

frozywozy · June 2015

BossTuggles wrote: »

I honestly use alot more skills than these people do in an actual fight I use every skill on my one bar and 2-3 on my second. I mean but im a scrubby DC small group player. I do not have the tactical coordination of the likes of Moeniken or whoever. I mean I actually have to worry about getting overwhelmed by numbers and escape. I do not have 4 other templars spamming BoL for me and 20+ other people to come to my aid.

but hey THE WAY ITS MEANT TO BE PLAYED

I use all my 10skills in a 10-15seconds rotation during a fight in large group play.

BossTuggles · June 2015

I have no idea of a sypher build. I remember way back when at launch I was guilded with him and he was taking notes from the likes of the LORD. I can spell out my bars if you want. I just don't understand how people see this as good pvp and these are skilled players is all. I mean there is a guy who follows him behind the tree impulsing noone. 1337 Gamer there. You all complain about the lag yet you fight in the way that causes it. I am not saying its your guys fault for lag but we all know getting in fights like this makes the server take a *** on itself. Yet it is the only way these people pvp anymore its just disheartening.

Draxys · June 2015

BossTuggles wrote: »

I have no idea of a sypher build. I remember way back when at launch I was guilded with him and he was taking notes from the likes of the LORD. I can spell out my bars if you want. I just don't understand how people see this as good pvp and these are skilled players is all. I mean there is a guy who follows him behind the tree impulsing noone. 1337 Gamer there. You all complain about the lag yet you fight in the way that causes it. I am not saying its your guys fault for lag but we all know getting in fights like this makes the server take a *** on itself. Yet it is the only way these people pvp anymore its just disheartening.

1) I'm glad you have an opinion on what good pvp is, that's great. This game is meant for groups, and some people like that kind of pvp. Get over it, that's what adults do.

2) no one causes the lag in any specific way, before these encounters there were a couple fights with the same groups and no one lagged. It's bad code that does that, and that's on ZOS. When the lag did get so bad that nothing was happening we just backed off and called a truce.

3) you just said it's these groups' fault for the lag, but now it's not the groups' fault? Which is it?

BossTuggles · June 2015

1) PvP is meant for groups. THESE ARE RAIDS.

3) I said these fights are the reasons it is soo laggy. COMPREHENSION HARD RAWR.

NukeAllTheThings · June 2015

BossTuggles wrote: »

1) PvP is meant for groups. THESE ARE RAIDS.

3) I said these fights are the reasons it is soo laggy. COMPREHENSION HARD RAWR.

PVP is meant for up to 24 in a group. Call it a group call it a raid call it a freaking zerg or whatever you want to call it.....it is exactly what this game was made for. The game was designed for, advertised and marketed for large scale combat. Sure ZOS has effed up their implementation of it, but it is exactly what it was designed for.

bosmern_ESO · June 2015

BossTuggles wrote: »

I have no idea of a sypher build. I remember way back when at launch I was guilded with him and he was taking notes from the likes of the LORD. I can spell out my bars if you want. I just don't understand how people see this as good pvp and these are skilled players is all. I mean there is a guy who follows him behind the tree impulsing noone. 1337 Gamer there. You all complain about the lag yet you fight in the way that causes it. I am not saying its your guys fault for lag but we all know getting in fights like this makes the server take a *** on itself. Yet it is the only way these people pvp anymore its just disheartening.

You wonder why people group up to pvp? Go watch the videos, the game was advertised as large scale combat. Go try and take a keep with 4-8 people, see how far you get. You want to get EMP or a scroll? play without a single group/guild on the server and see how far you get.

PvP guilds have amazing communities, and If I never joined the one I'm in I probably wouldn't be playing this game right now.

Go ahead and try and talk and say people who play in coordinated groups have no skill, I'm sure anyone In Decibel or Vehemence could easily demolish you in a 1v1 if that's how you judge player skill. We could easily say duelers have no skill because all you do is have a block casting fight and whoever has more resources wins.

Don't get upset because people group up to play raid style pvp, they bought the game with their money and they have a right to play how they want.

BossTuggles · June 2015

Looks like I hit someone where it hurts.

Winnamine · June 2015

BossTuggles wrote: »

So this is a good fight in you people's eyes? I mean great job hitting them 3 buttons for a 10 minute period. Its hard for anyone to lose life when you have someone spamming BoL when everyone is at full health amirite? And that one play where you jumped around a tree. Damn that was some tactical *** right there. And that other HUGE play where you hit Rejuv aura. Damn that was some top tier pvp skill *** right there.

This style of play is hard in its own right, group coordination isn't easy with 24 people, and the reason our health wasn't going down is because we timed our barriers well, BoL is awesome, but it won't keep a group of 24 at full health against the kind of damage a group like the EP in the video puts out, not unless every third person is a templar with unlimited magicka. People like this video because it's a very good example of large group gameplay; two good groups playing well.
But hey, I hear it means you're good if you can make it look easy

bosmern_ESO · June 2015

BossTuggles wrote: »

Looks like I hit someone where it hurts.

Not really, don't come on the forums trying to name and shame guilds because the servers and code for the game is just plain poor. If you are going to be ignorant don't go around and hate on people because of their play style and say sh*t like "you guyz gotz no skillz! I can shoot 5 snipes at someone from stealth while they are on da horze! datz real skillz guyz!"

No, try again.

BossTuggles · June 2015

I do not believe I named or shamed any guild. Nor have I ever sniped someone in this game.

Manoekin · June 2015

BossTuggles wrote: »

I honestly use alot more skills than these people do in an actual fight I use every skill on my one bar and 2-3 on my second. I mean but im a scrubby DC small group player. I do not have the tactical coordination of the likes of Moeniken or whoever. I mean I actually have to worry about getting overwhelmed by numbers and escape. I do not have 4 other templars spamming BoL for me and 20+ other people to come to my aid.

but hey THE WAY ITS MEANT TO BE PLAYED

I'll take that as a compliment. Also, the best part of being in a group is getting overwhelmed by numbers, but not worrying about escaping and instead about killing them all! We were farming Aleswell farm before this and the fight got so large half our group crashed, but we still managed to survive the crash and kill everything in our path there. I don't understand where you're going with your lag comments either. We had several fights last night with the same groups you see in the video and there was 0 lag. When I was making the video I read the chat and there was another big battle going on somewhere else during the last fight (i don't know if that chat made it into the video though). I think that had much more of an affect on it than what we were doing.

As for player skill... I won't 1v1 you because I'm a healer, so that's just stupid. What I will say is everyone touts all these great solo players, but I've personally seen them all beaten by players who run in groups and even watched a NB nearly sap a solo DK to death. Honestly the best player I've ever seen in this game led pvp groups. I don't think it makes a difference how you play the game, good players are good players.

bosmern_ESO · June 2015

BossTuggles wrote: »

I do not believe I named or shamed any guild. Nor have I ever sniped someone in this game.

You might want to look up the definition of Shaming, just saying.

BossTuggles · June 2015

Funny you say that I heal as well. And yes I use more than 3 skills.

Manoekin · June 2015

BossTuggles wrote: »

Funny you say that I heal as well. And yes I use more than 3 skills.

That's nice. I have 7 skills on my bar and in the video I use all of them except maybe one that I have on my bar just for the passive bonus(though I do use it in certain situations). I also use both nova and barrier, but in the open field I'm not going to be throwing novas at dirt.

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