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✭✭✭✭EskimoBrother wrote: »bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »EskimoBrother wrote: »NPK Daniel wrote: »The elite DC need to stop F'ing around in these 'small team BS' crap and actually try to help the rest of us. Your small team isn't beating Grom's team, ever, so drop the AP farm game and actually try to help us.
Don't blame us. Sorry we dont need groups of 48 to get *** done. Back in azura's we'd watch you guys wipe over and over trying to take a keep until our small group came over to lend you guys a hand. I'd say you need to quit *** around with your garbage zerg and actually work on developing some good core players, then maybe you'll be able to take a defended keep without help. Who knows, you guys might actually get more than 5k ap an hour in the process, then you'll be able to get your beloved alliance ranks to help you win!
Dc needs more guilds like shortbus, not more mindless zerging.
Maybe if you had groups of 48, you'd be competing with the larger EP guilds. Shitting on people who aren't on your level of experience really makes you look childish. That mentality will be the death of DC, "garbage zergs" won't be.
EP has the best/most organized guilds, even then there should be no reason you need a group of 48 to compete with them. Excuse me for "shitting" on his zerg, but saying that we don't help our faction because we run smaller groups is laughable and just straight stupid.
Agreed, J and myself are trying to form a Guild that may run one and sometimes on a good night two separate 12- man groups...we don't want no damn zerg...quality over quantity, people that will work together...
just 7 of us were able to hold a resource against 20+ last week for quite awhile due to smart tactical play....No one has to be uber, or have this build or that build, or even stack on crown to run with us.
All we are looking for is folks who will work together, take defensive positions as needed, and help their team mates while talking in TS. All of us are really good folks, we want folks to succeed and have fun, but its been difficult to find people and were growing slowly.
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CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭Everyone should play how they want, and regardless of our history with J i wish her all the best. #earbodywannabewalmart
The point I'm trying to make is, those 2 groups of 12, have ZERO chance of stopped the big EP/AD teams when they come together and strong. Instead of DC splitting up into a million 12 warrior groups, we'd have a FAR greater chance of winning if we are all together, working together. There's a reason the best EP/AD teams don't do this 'small group thang'.0 -
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And which guilds might those be? The best ep guilds are havoc, Vehemence and nexus...as far as i know they do not need 48 man groups to wipe you guys. Just because YOU guys have to run zerg groups doesn't mean thats the most efficient way. Try learning some tactics and self sustainability instead of always depending on numbersNPK Daniel wrote: »Everyone should play how they want, and regardless of our history with J i wish her all the best. #earbodywannabewalmart
The point I'm trying to make is, those 2 groups of 12, have ZERO chance of stopped the big EP/AD teams when they come together and strong. Instead of DC splitting up into a million 12 warrior groups, we'd have a FAR greater chance of winning if we are all together, working together. There's a reason the best EP/AD teams don't do this 'small group thang'.
Edited by EskimoBrother on June 3, 2015 4:26PM
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Rook_Master✭✭✭✭✭EskimoBrother wrote: »
Try learning some tactics and self sustainability instead of always depending on numbersNPK Daniel wrote: »Everyone should play how they want, and regardless of our history with J i wish her all the best. #earbodywannabewalmart
The point I'm trying to make is, those 2 groups of 12, have ZERO chance of stopped the big EP/AD teams when they come together and strong. Instead of DC splitting up into a million 12 warrior groups, we'd have a FAR greater chance of winning if we are all together, working together. There's a reason the best EP/AD teams don't do this 'small group thang'.
Did you just really say that to DC? o.O1 -
CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭Show me your small team beat Grom's big team, and I'll admit I'm wrong. Maybe I am, but I haven't seen it happen...
We do fine against most the other big teams, and typically win more than we lose. But again, I really think you're lying to yourself if you think a group of 10 whatevers is gonna beat Grom's team of 20-50.0 -
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i said it to daniel, who is known to run multiple groups. Whats so groundbreaking about this? No idea who grom is, but i imagine he cant be that good if hes having to pile 50 people into a ts to get *** done. I wouldn't expect our group of 10 to wipe 50, but to say our small groups are at fault for DC losing is just plain stupid. We have enough zerg groups (npk, hod, ak...so on) to get *** done, however the QUALITY is just not there.Rook_Master wrote: »EskimoBrother wrote: »
Try learning some tactics and self sustainability instead of always depending on numbersNPK Daniel wrote: »Everyone should play how they want, and regardless of our history with J i wish her all the best. #earbodywannabewalmart
The point I'm trying to make is, those 2 groups of 12, have ZERO chance of stopped the big EP/AD teams when they come together and strong. Instead of DC splitting up into a million 12 warrior groups, we'd have a FAR greater chance of winning if we are all together, working together. There's a reason the best EP/AD teams don't do this 'small group thang'.
Did you just really say that to DC? o.O
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CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭EskimoBrother wrote: »
i said it to daniel, who is known to run multiple groups. Whats so groundbreaking about this?Rook_Master wrote: »EskimoBrother wrote: »
Try learning some tactics and self sustainability instead of always depending on numbersNPK Daniel wrote: »Everyone should play how they want, and regardless of our history with J i wish her all the best. #earbodywannabewalmart
The point I'm trying to make is, those 2 groups of 12, have ZERO chance of stopped the big EP/AD teams when they come together and strong. Instead of DC splitting up into a million 12 warrior groups, we'd have a FAR greater chance of winning if we are all together, working together. There's a reason the best EP/AD teams don't do this 'small group thang'.
Did you just really say that to DC? o.O
Yeap, I enjoy playing with all of my friends, not just the elite ones. 2-3 full groups is within our normal range. Someone has to help the new DC too, I'm not turning people down because they aren't 'good enough'. I prefer to build each other up, and support each other. Now turn that question back around, imagine how good my 2-3 full groups could be with the help of your elite few....?!?!?! mindblown.
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CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭And, I must add, EVERY DC that runs with the other larger DC guilds says we're 20x coordinated more than the others. It's not like we're not trying to get better.
Even with 48, havok used to get us all the time, now it's much more even.
Ask the EP/AD that met us on our recent bridge farms if we're not coordinated. Admittedly, one did end in like 30 seconds, but the others have all lasted the entire hour until the scroll reset.0 -
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Trayyacakes✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »And, I must add, EVERY DC that runs with the other larger DC guilds says we're 20x coordinated more than the others. It's not like we're not trying to get better.
Even with 48, havok used to get us all the time, now it's much more even.
Ask the EP/AD that met us on our recent bridge farms if we're not coordinated. Admittedly, one did end in like 30 seconds, but the others have all lasted the entire hour until the scroll reset.
A bridge farm... with 48 people... just what?
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✭✭✭✭Trayyacakes wrote: »NPK Daniel wrote: »And, I must add, EVERY DC that runs with the other larger DC guilds says we're 20x coordinated more than the others. It's not like we're not trying to get better.
Even with 48, havok used to get us all the time, now it's much more even.
Ask the EP/AD that met us on our recent bridge farms if we're not coordinated. Admittedly, one did end in like 30 seconds, but the others have all lasted the entire hour until the scroll reset.
A bridge farm... with 48 people... just what?
One raid for each side of the bridge!Edited by FENGRUSH on June 3, 2015 5:03PM3 -
BigTone✭✭✭✭Chill was a lot of fun last night. DC banded together for a while and pushed out pretty far. AD actually showed up to play as well
. All three factions were locked. It was fun having both faction to fight against. Each faction was one keep away from getting emp at one point in the night, and no emp was crowned because the other two factions started pushing against it. This is how pvp should be. Chalman was a lag fest as usual, but it was nice to see us not get steam-rolled throughout the night. Even when a large AD presence came to Warden to try to get their scroll back, DC banded together and put up a great defense to hold it. We were coordinating with two other guilds last night and it made a big difference. There has been progress within the last week. Big'Tone-V16 DC Sorc AR31
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Mako1132✭✭✭✭✭EskimoBrother wrote: »
i said it to daniel, who is known to run multiple groups. Whats so groundbreaking about this? No idea who grom is, but i imagine he cant be that good if hes having to pile 50 people into a ts to get *** done. I wouldn't expect our group of 10 to wipe 50, but to say our small groups are at fault for DC losing is just plain stupid. We have enough zerg groups (npk, hod, ak...so on) to get *** done, however the QUALITY is just not there.Rook_Master wrote: »EskimoBrother wrote: »
Try learning some tactics and self sustainability instead of always depending on numbersNPK Daniel wrote: »Everyone should play how they want, and regardless of our history with J i wish her all the best. #earbodywannabewalmart
The point I'm trying to make is, those 2 groups of 12, have ZERO chance of stopped the big EP/AD teams when they come together and strong. Instead of DC splitting up into a million 12 warrior groups, we'd have a FAR greater chance of winning if we are all together, working together. There's a reason the best EP/AD teams don't do this 'small group thang'.
Did you just really say that to DC? o.O
Give me 12 good players and I will hadouken the *** out of any of these so called unbeatable big group/guilds1 -
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*YOU HAVE BEEN KICKED FOR EXCEEDING THE MESSAGE RATE LIMIT*EskimoBrother wrote: »
i said it to daniel, who is known to run multiple groups. Whats so groundbreaking about this? No idea who grom is, but i imagine he cant be that good if hes having to pile 50 people into a ts to get *** done. I wouldn't expect our group of 10 to wipe 50, but to say our small groups are at fault for DC losing is just plain stupid. We have enough zerg groups (npk, hod, ak...so on) to get *** done, however the QUALITY is just not there.Rook_Master wrote: »EskimoBrother wrote: »
Try learning some tactics and self sustainability instead of always depending on numbersNPK Daniel wrote: »Everyone should play how they want, and regardless of our history with J i wish her all the best. #earbodywannabewalmart
The point I'm trying to make is, those 2 groups of 12, have ZERO chance of stopped the big EP/AD teams when they come together and strong. Instead of DC splitting up into a million 12 warrior groups, we'd have a FAR greater chance of winning if we are all together, working together. There's a reason the best EP/AD teams don't do this 'small group thang'.
Did you just really say that to DC? o.O
Give me 12 good players and I will hadouken the *** out of any of these so called unbeatable big group/guilds
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impossible. Npk daniel needs 48 to do it, therefore you are unable to do it with 12 and are worthless to the faction.EskimoBrother wrote: »
i said it to daniel, who is known to run multiple groups. Whats so groundbreaking about this? No idea who grom is, but i imagine he cant be that good if hes having to pile 50 people into a ts to get *** done. I wouldn't expect our group of 10 to wipe 50, but to say our small groups are at fault for DC losing is just plain stupid. We have enough zerg groups (npk, hod, ak...so on) to get *** done, however the QUALITY is just not there.Rook_Master wrote: »EskimoBrother wrote: »
Try learning some tactics and self sustainability instead of always depending on numbersNPK Daniel wrote: »Everyone should play how they want, and regardless of our history with J i wish her all the best. #earbodywannabewalmart
The point I'm trying to make is, those 2 groups of 12, have ZERO chance of stopped the big EP/AD teams when they come together and strong. Instead of DC splitting up into a million 12 warrior groups, we'd have a FAR greater chance of winning if we are all together, working together. There's a reason the best EP/AD teams don't do this 'small group thang'.
Did you just really say that to DC? o.O
Give me 12 good players and I will hadouken the *** out of any of these so called unbeatable big group/guilds
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loki547✭✭✭✭Teargrants wrote: »
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CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭If you could get those three raids running like well oiled machines you could roll a campaign. Get three good raid leads, train up the masses, and that's the beginning a DC rebuild.
We are working very hard at it, typically 5-6hrs per day. We've just started assigning roles, ults, numbering them, etc. It's amazing how far we've come in the past 3 months.0 -
Oughash✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »If you could get those three raids running like well oiled machines you could roll a campaign. Get three good raid leads, train up the masses, and that's the beginning a DC rebuild.
We are working very hard at it, typically 5-6hrs per day. We've just started assigning roles, ults, numbering them, etc. It's amazing how far we've come in the past 3 months.
Good luck, mate. Glad someone is holding down the fort. You, me, Grunt, Pain need to get together, btw.1 -
CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭[/quote]impossible. Npk daniel needs 48 to do it, therefore you are unable to do it with 12 and are worthless to the faction.
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Bro, like I said, prove me wrong. I've got like 60 days game play, I haven't seen it yet. The Grom apprigra groups of 40+ have no rivals. It's just the truth. But, it can be done, with equal numbers and equal coordination. And we are trying to get there.0 -
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✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »impossible. Npk daniel needs 48 to do it, therefore you are unable to do it with 12 and are worthless to the faction.
Bro, like I said, prove me wrong. I've got like 60 days game play, I haven't seen it yet. The Grom apprigra groups of 40+ have no rivals. It's just the truth. But, it can be done, with equal numbers and equal coordination. And we are trying to get there.
Who is apprigra?Edited by Agrippa_Invisus on June 3, 2015 6:32PMAgrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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Grom & Agrippa's lovechild.Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »NPK Daniel wrote: »impossible. Npk daniel needs 48 to do it, therefore you are unable to do it with 12 and are worthless to the faction.
Bro, like I said, prove me wrong. I've got like 60 days game play, I haven't seen it yet. The Grom apprigra groups of 40+ have no rivals. It's just the truth. But, it can be done, with equal numbers and equal coordination. And we are trying to get there.
Who is apprigra?
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✭✭✭Teargrants wrote: »
Grom & Agrippa's lovechild.Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »NPK Daniel wrote: »impossible. Npk daniel needs 48 to do it, therefore you are unable to do it with 12 and are worthless to the faction.
Bro, like I said, prove me wrong. I've got like 60 days game play, I haven't seen it yet. The Grom apprigra groups of 40+ have no rivals. It's just the truth. But, it can be done, with equal numbers and equal coordination. And we are trying to get there.
Who is apprigra?
I think... I'm going to be ill.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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Observant✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »impossible. Npk daniel needs 48 to do it, therefore you are unable to do it with 12 and are worthless to the faction.
Bro, like I said, prove me wrong. I've got like 60 days game play, I haven't seen it yet. The Grom apprigra groups of 40+ have no rivals. It's just the truth. But, it can be done, with equal numbers and equal coordination. And we are trying to get there.
I believe you are confused in terms of what groups run with 40+ people. Grom and Agrippa run with guilds that do not allow more than a full raid of 24. If they're anything like me, they enjoy being outnumbered and prefer playing as such.Edited by Observant on June 3, 2015 6:34PMVehemence2 -
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