Joy_Division wrote: »@Siliconhobbit_ESO
OK, now that you admitted to lying, let me explain to you why you are wrong.
You initial premise was "Assuming there are NO OTHER advantages," and "Since the only advantage to claiming a keep IS the quartermaster use for a trade store, claiming a keep should be restricted to guilds with a guild store unlocked to them.
If you are going to enjoy that CAPS LOCK key to yell at us at what you think are absolute truths, then you do look silly when people point out you are wrong. Mako1132 was exactly right when he said that pride and prestige were every bit as valid reasons for claiming ownership of a keep. In fact, the Zenimax trailer that introduced Guild Tabbarbs specifically mentioned the pride and prestige aspect that they served.
Your weak, lame, and wrong response to this was "Your arguement of pride, prestige, and banners flying is less tangible then me claiming a keep for the trade kiosk alone, simply because keeps change hands so much."
No it's not less tangible. I will never ever see your trade kiosk. Ever. Because I don't shop in Cyrodiil. You are your guild are invisible to me. You get zero tangible benefits from me. None. I have and will, however, gained a greater appreciation for players like Germtrocity and Namiera (sorry for misspelling your names) and others like them because they have claimed prominent keeps such as Arrius and Glademist. As you say, any troll can claim a keep, but when these same names consistently pop up on important keeps and my own inquires confirmed they were good and respected players, then their name carries an important and significance miles beyond your kiosk. If Namiera says in zone "Attack Arrius," I am going to do that because I know that is a strategic move for my alliance that is backed up by good players and an important guild. If Germtrocity offers advice on how to play a sorcerer, I will stop what I am doing and pay attention. If you say "Attack Arrius," I will ignore that like your Kiosk. Since you are so fond of using CAPS, I will do so as well, but actually be correct: there ARE tangible benefits that come with prestige. And this does not even get into issues such as recruitment which is the lifeblood of every guild
And if prestige dosen't matter to you because keeps change hands so much, then your guild kiosk doesn't matter either. You are a hypocrite to say those 20 minutes your guild kiosk is in operation is invaluable to you for sales, but somehow those same 20 minutes are not valuable to a guild looking to make a name for themselves in Cyrodiil.
filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »You take two full raids and one of them builds their raid to support and help each other. The other raid just is full of random players who do not adjust their builds to support a raid. The end result the first raid stomps the floor with the other raid then continues to conquer cyrodiil. Exactly why my guild had 22 people holding a scroll at the spawn of a pop locked enemy faction and they couldn't stop it or kill us.
One group of players is doing what it takes to make the faction stronger. The other group of players is fighting to maintain their personal identities and builds. So you got keeps named "butt hole lickers" and "rubbed one out" instead of DC Trading Guild. One just trolls while the other offers the faction resources to win fights.
filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »
filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »
Thats because I am a gentleman, the lady should always come first.
filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »
Thats because I am a gentleman, the lady should always come first.
It doesn't hurt that you get to look at the sweet booty when you do.
I quite liked 'Dee-tick's LM' for EP on Thorn at the end of last year. Often placed on Arrius LMGorraShatan wrote: »Also I love the funny names on keeps. "Audrey will you marry me" was my favourite.
Sometimes you just have to let the potatoes potate somewhere harmless.I'm trying to figure out why this thread is even still happening...
OP, you're wrong, small groups can and do contribute to keep takes, some even do it alone, and they should have the same right to claim the keep as any other guild, and no one cares whether or not you like the guild name.
Also, Cyrodiil is not your personal shopping center, if you want to buy stuff, go to Rawl'kha like errrrybody else.
I'm trying to figure out why this thread is even still happening...
OP, you're wrong, small groups can and do contribute to keep takes, some even do it alone, and they should have the same right to claim the keep as any other guild, and no one cares whether or not you like the guild name.
Also, Cyrodiil is not your personal shopping center, if you want to buy stuff, go to Rawl'kha like errrrybody else.
filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »I'm trying to figure out why this thread is even still happening...
OP, you're wrong, small groups can and do contribute to keep takes, some even do it alone, and they should have the same right to claim the keep as any other guild, and no one cares whether or not you like the guild name.
Also, Cyrodiil is not your personal shopping center, if you want to buy stuff, go to Rawl'kha like errrrybody else.
In order to be good at pvp you will need weapons, armor, jewelry, food, potions, drinks. I guess if you don't care about winning or being good then what I'm saying makes no sense at all. But for those of us who actually care about being good at pvp and winning maps then it is very important.
filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »I'm trying to figure out why this thread is even still happening...
OP, you're wrong, small groups can and do contribute to keep takes, some even do it alone, and they should have the same right to claim the keep as any other guild, and no one cares whether or not you like the guild name.
Also, Cyrodiil is not your personal shopping center, if you want to buy stuff, go to Rawl'kha like errrrybody else.
In order to be good at pvp you will need weapons, armor, jewelry, food, potions, drinks. I guess if you don't care about winning or being good then what I'm saying makes no sense at all. But for those of us who actually care about being good at pvp and winning maps then it is very important.
filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »I'm trying to figure out why this thread is even still happening...
OP, you're wrong, small groups can and do contribute to keep takes, some even do it alone, and they should have the same right to claim the keep as any other guild, and no one cares whether or not you like the guild name.
Also, Cyrodiil is not your personal shopping center, if you want to buy stuff, go to Rawl'kha like errrrybody else.
In order to be good at pvp you will need weapons, armor, jewelry, food, potions, drinks. I guess if you don't care about winning or being good then what I'm saying makes no sense at all. But for those of us who actually care about being good at pvp and winning maps then it is very important.
filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »I'm trying to figure out why this thread is even still happening...
OP, you're wrong, small groups can and do contribute to keep takes, some even do it alone, and they should have the same right to claim the keep as any other guild, and no one cares whether or not you like the guild name.
Also, Cyrodiil is not your personal shopping center, if you want to buy stuff, go to Rawl'kha like errrrybody else.
In order to be good at pvp you will need weapons, armor, jewelry, food, potions, drinks. I guess if you don't care about winning or being good then what I'm saying makes no sense at all. But for those of us who actually care about being good at pvp and winning maps then it is very important.
I make my own craftable armor, weapons, food, and tripots. As for my jewelry and dropped sets, I either got them from PVE or bought them from pve'rs I know.
I don't rely on Cyrodiil keeps for my shopping needs, it's a pvp zone, not Wal-Mart.
NukeAllTheThings wrote: »filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »I'm trying to figure out why this thread is even still happening...
OP, you're wrong, small groups can and do contribute to keep takes, some even do it alone, and they should have the same right to claim the keep as any other guild, and no one cares whether or not you like the guild name.
Also, Cyrodiil is not your personal shopping center, if you want to buy stuff, go to Rawl'kha like errrrybody else.
In order to be good at pvp you will need weapons, armor, jewelry, food, potions, drinks. I guess if you don't care about winning or being good then what I'm saying makes no sense at all. But for those of us who actually care about being good at pvp and winning maps then it is very important.
Those who are good at this game already earn their weapons, armor & jewelry and most can already make their own consumables. The fact that you think your gear makes you good tells me you really have no clue what you are talking about and are too poor/cheap to get a kiosk
Banana Squad has 25 members but is - sorry for bragging - one of the strongest pvp guilds on EU. So we should not be able to claim a keep that we took 12v40 because apparently we are just a troll guild... Instead some trading guild or bad megaguild should get to claim the keep despite they did nothing in order to take the keep...
What the [snip]
filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »Banana Squad has 25 members but is - sorry for bragging - one of the strongest pvp guilds on EU. So we should not be able to claim a keep that we took 12v40 because apparently we are just a troll guild... Instead some trading guild or bad megaguild should get to claim the keep despite they did nothing in order to take the keep...
What the [snip]
12 people cannot take a keep on a real server sorry.
filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »Banana Squad has 25 members but is - sorry for bragging - one of the strongest pvp guilds on EU. So we should not be able to claim a keep that we took 12v40 because apparently we are just a troll guild... Instead some trading guild or bad megaguild should get to claim the keep despite they did nothing in order to take the keep...
What the [snip]
12 people cannot take a keep on a real server sorry.
filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »Banana Squad has 25 members but is - sorry for bragging - one of the strongest pvp guilds on EU. So we should not be able to claim a keep that we took 12v40 because apparently we are just a troll guild... Instead some trading guild or bad megaguild should get to claim the keep despite they did nothing in order to take the keep...
What the [snip]
12 people cannot take a keep on a real server sorry.
vortexman11 wrote: »Teutonic Spindles your Brindles
I'm down, pick some buff server for this guys' alliance. 20 v 12 at a keep, lets go. We 12 take it.
filmoretub17_ESO wrote: »So will a level 50 be able to wear v14 gear or is there something to unlock in the champion system first?