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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683901

[POLL] : Show your support for Duels within your faction 1v1

  • Davadin
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    NO to duels within Faction ( comment why you would NOT want it too)
    Also, I want a training dummy.


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  • SIXR_sCaR
    SIXR_sCaR
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    Davadin wrote: »
    Just FYI, I would vote YES on Arena.

    But duel?

    Freeform, open-world, anytime anywhere, "fight me now" button?


    No.

    Fights can only happen outside city walls ,not inside
  • TheSunAlsoRises
    TheSunAlsoRises
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    yes because dueling is great practice and it's rare that i can 1v1 someone in PvP these days.
    No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe
  • SIXR_sCaR
    SIXR_sCaR
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    i know right
  • Milktray
    Milktray
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    NO to duels within Faction ( comment why you would NOT want it too)
    SIXR_sCaR wrote: »
    Milktray wrote: »
    SIXR_sCaR wrote: »
    duels makes new friends :)

    duels make pita drive by sends of 'x wants to duel' who then constantly send requests when denied or run after you annoying you.

    i never ever had someone chase me lol

    Oh i have, because they can't get what they want i've had ppl run along saying 'chicken' 'sissy' etc etc .. I see some mentioned an Arena and that I say 'Yes' to as if they want the fight, I can just avoid the area. As some have said it would be for skill testing loadouts etc .. Arena would fit fine, maybe have it so you can select at what level the fight is, loadout maxxed etc

    I needen't check for 'Chase Me' signs on my toon's back then ;-)
    ZoS please understand everyone thinks and pronounces things differently, so please add to your 'rules' that things get removed if the Mod doesn't actually quite understand phrasing
  • SIXR_sCaR
    SIXR_sCaR
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    lol dam that sucked than
  • Yasha
    Yasha
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    Tandor wrote: »
    Yasha wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    Yasha wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    Molsondry wrote: »
    Anyone voting no is plain selfish. If you vote no you think only aobut yourself WHAT IN THE WORLD WOULD IT DO TO YOU IF THERE WAS DUEL WITH A OPTION IN MENU TO DESACTIVATE THEM ???

    I SEE 86 SELFISH PLAYER IN THE POLL

    Complete nonsense. A number of very clear reasons have been given by people opposed to the introduction of duelling, including increased PvE lag, diversion of developer resources from more important issues, expansion of PvP into PvE areas, and increased complaints on skill balance issues based solely on PvP considerations but which would impact on PvE, to name a few.

    It's not remotely selfish to hold a different opinion on something to you.

    @Tandor
    "lag in PvE" that is ridiculous, I don't see how adding duelling would create zergs and lag trains, so there is zero reason why this would add any more lag than there is currently.

    Some have said "I don't want to be harrassed by people who want to duel me and who call me chicken"
    My answer : toggle ability to see or not see the duel invites. And if you can't handle someone who spams whispers to you, you have nothing to do on the internet my friend. Also /ignore will instantly rid you of the problem.

    Another fact that people seem to forget, is that we all play on a megaserver. Not everyone is in the same zone. Guess what the server does? It places in the zone your guild mates, friends, and people who take part in the same kind of activity as you. Which is why, if you hate PvP so much and are only member of PvE guilds, there is a good chance you wouldn't even meet duellers..

    Balance issues? Just know that on the NA and on the EU servers there are already duelling guild (Legend in Na if i'm not mistaken and Arena in EU). People already duel the heck out of each other, and it's a good thing because it highlights the bugs and imbalances in the game. You won't see more posts than there already are, because the people who want to duel their faction already duel the opposing factions.

    If you think PvP imbalances influence PvE too much, it's true on both sides. Guess what major change happened because of PvE tanks whining? Ultimate generation. Ners and buffs are going to happen.

    The only semi valid argument you have is the diversion of developer resources from "more important issues", because we all want this game to be fixed before adding new content.

    I wasn't raising those points as mine, although I agree with some of them. I was countering the accusation that people who vote against duelling are selfish with no thoughts for anyone but themselves. I made the point that those people have raised a number of perfectly valid reasons for voting against duelling, whether others agree with them or not. They are entitled to hold those views and vote accordingly, and to do so is not remotely selfish any more than to vote for duelling is selfish because it fails to take account of the views of those who oppose it.

    The main reason presented by people against duels is not wanting to be harassed everywhere to participate in a duel. Solutions to get around that issue have been repeatedly posted, but it doesn't seem to sway their opinion. Similarly solutions or compromise on a few of the other sticking points such as potential lag in pve have been discussed. And again no one seems to change their stance.

    This suggests to me that many of the people voting "no" are just being obstructionist for the sake of it. And that is not cool imo. Look, this is a feature that would greatly aid players who love pvp and if there is some way to implement it without adversely impacting gameplay for you I would encourage you to change your stance and support it, or at least not to obstruct it.

    The only solution to harrassment offered that I can recall is to have an auto-decline feature, but Aneima explains in post #85 why that doesn't always provide a sufficient answer.

    People are entitled to their point of view regardless of which side of the fence they're on. If you're going to complain that the "no" voters are only thinking of themselves and haven't changed their position to reflect the opposite arguments then please confirm how many "yes" voters are thinking of others and have changed their position?

    PvP always causes friction between PvPers and PvEers, and that's why it is best kept in separate PvP areas. Both sets of players hold very strong views on it and are unlikely to change them, but that doesn't mean that only one side is entitled to hold those views and express them when asked a simple question like "Do you support duels". When some PvPers attack not only the argument but also the character of the PvEers (e.g "you're selfish") then it only reinforces the PvEers' view that they want nothing to do with PvP in any form.

    There have been several suggestions of how to implement duelling without causing a problem for people that do not like it. One which would completely eliminate the issue is to have duels only occur in certain places- like a training ground in Cyrodiil for example.

    As shown in this thread, at least some of the people that want duels have listened to the other side and have suggested compromises that while not exactly what they might have originally wanted, will still allow them to duel while also ensuring it does not impact the game experience of other members of the community.

    So now that you have been given a clear example of a way to implement duels without it having to impact your gameplay and also been shown how people on the other side are actually trying to think of ways to be inclusive and cater for other members of the community, what do you think?

    My position is clear in post #47 on page 1.

    All I've been doing lately is defending those who have given good reasons for holding their views - whether I agree with them or not - against those who accuse them of being selfish or obstructive because they happen to hold a different view to those making the accusations.

    Bear in mind also, of course, that people are asked to vote on the proposition outlined in the original post, not in the light of any subsequent discussion.

    I thought your view was reasonable, but some other people just seem to have the blinders on.

    We have repeatedly posted ways to implement a duelling system that takes into account all of the concerns raised by people in this thread. Some are being selfish and obstructionist not because they hold a different opinion, but because they continue to be negative even when their concerns have been addressed and should therefore have no logical reason to be against the idea.
  • SIXR_sCaR
    SIXR_sCaR
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    @Yasha speaks truth
  • gard
    gard
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    As long as both players have to consent, this is a great idea. I endorse this message.
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  • Tandor
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    NO to duels within Faction ( comment why you would NOT want it too)
    Yasha wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    Yasha wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    Yasha wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    Molsondry wrote: »
    Anyone voting no is plain selfish. If you vote no you think only aobut yourself WHAT IN THE WORLD WOULD IT DO TO YOU IF THERE WAS DUEL WITH A OPTION IN MENU TO DESACTIVATE THEM ???

    I SEE 86 SELFISH PLAYER IN THE POLL

    Complete nonsense. A number of very clear reasons have been given by people opposed to the introduction of duelling, including increased PvE lag, diversion of developer resources from more important issues, expansion of PvP into PvE areas, and increased complaints on skill balance issues based solely on PvP considerations but which would impact on PvE, to name a few.

    It's not remotely selfish to hold a different opinion on something to you.

    @Tandor
    "lag in PvE" that is ridiculous, I don't see how adding duelling would create zergs and lag trains, so there is zero reason why this would add any more lag than there is currently.

    Some have said "I don't want to be harrassed by people who want to duel me and who call me chicken"
    My answer : toggle ability to see or not see the duel invites. And if you can't handle someone who spams whispers to you, you have nothing to do on the internet my friend. Also /ignore will instantly rid you of the problem.

    Another fact that people seem to forget, is that we all play on a megaserver. Not everyone is in the same zone. Guess what the server does? It places in the zone your guild mates, friends, and people who take part in the same kind of activity as you. Which is why, if you hate PvP so much and are only member of PvE guilds, there is a good chance you wouldn't even meet duellers..

    Balance issues? Just know that on the NA and on the EU servers there are already duelling guild (Legend in Na if i'm not mistaken and Arena in EU). People already duel the heck out of each other, and it's a good thing because it highlights the bugs and imbalances in the game. You won't see more posts than there already are, because the people who want to duel their faction already duel the opposing factions.

    If you think PvP imbalances influence PvE too much, it's true on both sides. Guess what major change happened because of PvE tanks whining? Ultimate generation. Ners and buffs are going to happen.

    The only semi valid argument you have is the diversion of developer resources from "more important issues", because we all want this game to be fixed before adding new content.

    I wasn't raising those points as mine, although I agree with some of them. I was countering the accusation that people who vote against duelling are selfish with no thoughts for anyone but themselves. I made the point that those people have raised a number of perfectly valid reasons for voting against duelling, whether others agree with them or not. They are entitled to hold those views and vote accordingly, and to do so is not remotely selfish any more than to vote for duelling is selfish because it fails to take account of the views of those who oppose it.

    The main reason presented by people against duels is not wanting to be harassed everywhere to participate in a duel. Solutions to get around that issue have been repeatedly posted, but it doesn't seem to sway their opinion. Similarly solutions or compromise on a few of the other sticking points such as potential lag in pve have been discussed. And again no one seems to change their stance.

    This suggests to me that many of the people voting "no" are just being obstructionist for the sake of it. And that is not cool imo. Look, this is a feature that would greatly aid players who love pvp and if there is some way to implement it without adversely impacting gameplay for you I would encourage you to change your stance and support it, or at least not to obstruct it.

    The only solution to harrassment offered that I can recall is to have an auto-decline feature, but Aneima explains in post #85 why that doesn't always provide a sufficient answer.

    People are entitled to their point of view regardless of which side of the fence they're on. If you're going to complain that the "no" voters are only thinking of themselves and haven't changed their position to reflect the opposite arguments then please confirm how many "yes" voters are thinking of others and have changed their position?

    PvP always causes friction between PvPers and PvEers, and that's why it is best kept in separate PvP areas. Both sets of players hold very strong views on it and are unlikely to change them, but that doesn't mean that only one side is entitled to hold those views and express them when asked a simple question like "Do you support duels". When some PvPers attack not only the argument but also the character of the PvEers (e.g "you're selfish") then it only reinforces the PvEers' view that they want nothing to do with PvP in any form.

    There have been several suggestions of how to implement duelling without causing a problem for people that do not like it. One which would completely eliminate the issue is to have duels only occur in certain places- like a training ground in Cyrodiil for example.

    As shown in this thread, at least some of the people that want duels have listened to the other side and have suggested compromises that while not exactly what they might have originally wanted, will still allow them to duel while also ensuring it does not impact the game experience of other members of the community.

    So now that you have been given a clear example of a way to implement duels without it having to impact your gameplay and also been shown how people on the other side are actually trying to think of ways to be inclusive and cater for other members of the community, what do you think?

    My position is clear in post #47 on page 1.

    All I've been doing lately is defending those who have given good reasons for holding their views - whether I agree with them or not - against those who accuse them of being selfish or obstructive because they happen to hold a different view to those making the accusations.

    Bear in mind also, of course, that people are asked to vote on the proposition outlined in the original post, not in the light of any subsequent discussion.



    We have repeatedly posted ways to implement a duelling system that takes into account all of the concerns raised by people in this thread.

    Some of them, not all of them. People are still entitled to hold a contrary opinion without being insulted. You need to wake up to the fact that people will continue to oppose your ideas if you continue to call them selfish, obstructive, and negative. What possible reason is there for them to change their views to accord with those who are insulting them?
  • SIXR_sCaR
    SIXR_sCaR
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    Duels are coming
    hopefully ;)
  • PKMN12
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    SIXR_sCaR wrote: »
    Duels are coming
    hopefully ;)

    They have repeatedly, even just today, said no, no it is not coming, deal with it.
  • SIXR_sCaR
    SIXR_sCaR
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    SIXR_sCaR wrote: »
    Duels are coming
    hopefully ;)

    They have repeatedly, even just today, said no, no it is not coming, deal with it.

    alot companies say alot things
    end day what people ask for
    people will get
    patience is key
  •  Jules
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    The fact that people actually said no to this just blows my mind. This would be the most fun thing ever. Also, testing your builds against your friends makes for stronger PVP'rs. It's 100% an all around fantastic idea.
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  • PKMN12
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    SIXR_sCaR wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    SIXR_sCaR wrote: »
    Duels are coming
    hopefully ;)

    They have repeatedly, even just today, said no, no it is not coming, deal with it.

    alot companies say alot things
    end day what people ask for
    people will get
    patience is key

    yes, because what you say is SOOOOOOOOOOO true (hint: IT is not at all true what you say, ESPECIALLY in regards to an MMO)
  • PKMN12
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    Jules wrote: »
    The fact that people actually said no to this just blows my mind. This would be the most fun thing ever. Also, testing your builds against your friends makes for stronger PVP'rs. It's 100% an all around fantastic idea.

    it also lessens PVP in Cyrodill............
  • Valymer
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    The fact that people actually said no to this just blows my mind. This would be the most fun thing ever. Also, testing your builds against your friends makes for stronger PVP'rs. It's 100% an all around fantastic idea.

    it also lessens PVP in Cyrodill............

    Maybe that is a good thing because +999 ping at Nikel just now led quite a number of people to log off, according to zone chat.

    All you Cyro fanboys, I get it. I really do. We were promised large-scale PvP and that is not something that people want to give up on so easily. But the fact is that Zenimax's track record does not show them to be capable of fixing the lag problems; if anything they have gotten worse as time goes on.

    So while you are worried about people leaving Cyrodiil for small-scale PvP, what you should be worried about is people leaving the GAME because of frustration.

    Loss of players -> lost revenue for ZOS -> slower content releases and bug fixes
  • PKMN12
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    Valymer wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    The fact that people actually said no to this just blows my mind. This would be the most fun thing ever. Also, testing your builds against your friends makes for stronger PVP'rs. It's 100% an all around fantastic idea.

    it also lessens PVP in Cyrodill............

    Maybe that is a good thing because +999 ping at Nikel just now led quite a number of people to log off, according to zone chat.

    All you Cyro fanboys, I get it. I really do. We were promised large-scale PvP and that is not something that people want to give up on so easily. But the fact is that Zenimax's track record does not show them to be capable of fixing the lag problems; if anything they have gotten worse as time goes on.

    So while you are worried about people leaving Cyrodiil for small-scale PvP, what you should be worried about is people leaving the GAME because of frustration.

    Loss of players -> lost revenue for ZOS -> slower content releases and bug fixes

    yeah, see, your point also kind of makes it laughable you are even bringing this up. If they will not or can not bring us something they promised, what in your mind makes you think they would EVER do something they do not want to do, and if they EVER did, do it right?
    Edited by PKMN12 on May 30, 2015 1:19AM
  • Valymer
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Valymer wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    The fact that people actually said no to this just blows my mind. This would be the most fun thing ever. Also, testing your builds against your friends makes for stronger PVP'rs. It's 100% an all around fantastic idea.

    it also lessens PVP in Cyrodill............

    Maybe that is a good thing because +999 ping at Nikel just now led quite a number of people to log off, according to zone chat.

    All you Cyro fanboys, I get it. I really do. We were promised large-scale PvP and that is not something that people want to give up on so easily. But the fact is that Zenimax's track record does not show them to be capable of fixing the lag problems; if anything they have gotten worse as time goes on.

    So while you are worried about people leaving Cyrodiil for small-scale PvP, what you should be worried about is people leaving the GAME because of frustration.

    Loss of players -> lost revenue for ZOS -> slower content releases and bug fixes

    yeah, see, your point also kind of makes it laughable you are even bringing this up. If they will not or can not bring us something they promised, what in your mind makes you think they would EVER do something they do not want to do, and if they EVER did, do it right?

    Well, the alternative could be that so many people quit that the game dies.

    Which would you rather see happen?
  • PKMN12
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    Valymer wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Valymer wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    The fact that people actually said no to this just blows my mind. This would be the most fun thing ever. Also, testing your builds against your friends makes for stronger PVP'rs. It's 100% an all around fantastic idea.

    it also lessens PVP in Cyrodill............

    Maybe that is a good thing because +999 ping at Nikel just now led quite a number of people to log off, according to zone chat.

    All you Cyro fanboys, I get it. I really do. We were promised large-scale PvP and that is not something that people want to give up on so easily. But the fact is that Zenimax's track record does not show them to be capable of fixing the lag problems; if anything they have gotten worse as time goes on.

    So while you are worried about people leaving Cyrodiil for small-scale PvP, what you should be worried about is people leaving the GAME because of frustration.

    Loss of players -> lost revenue for ZOS -> slower content releases and bug fixes

    yeah, see, your point also kind of makes it laughable you are even bringing this up. If they will not or can not bring us something they promised, what in your mind makes you think they would EVER do something they do not want to do, and if they EVER did, do it right?

    Well, the alternative could be that so many people quit that the game dies.

    Which would you rather see happen?

    I would LIKE to see PVP fixed...........

    reality is though, if the game was going to die, it would have NOTHING to do with whether they have a small scale PVP system or Duel System in place.
  • Valymer
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Valymer wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Valymer wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    The fact that people actually said no to this just blows my mind. This would be the most fun thing ever. Also, testing your builds against your friends makes for stronger PVP'rs. It's 100% an all around fantastic idea.

    it also lessens PVP in Cyrodill............

    Maybe that is a good thing because +999 ping at Nikel just now led quite a number of people to log off, according to zone chat.

    All you Cyro fanboys, I get it. I really do. We were promised large-scale PvP and that is not something that people want to give up on so easily. But the fact is that Zenimax's track record does not show them to be capable of fixing the lag problems; if anything they have gotten worse as time goes on.

    So while you are worried about people leaving Cyrodiil for small-scale PvP, what you should be worried about is people leaving the GAME because of frustration.

    Loss of players -> lost revenue for ZOS -> slower content releases and bug fixes

    yeah, see, your point also kind of makes it laughable you are even bringing this up. If they will not or can not bring us something they promised, what in your mind makes you think they would EVER do something they do not want to do, and if they EVER did, do it right?

    Well, the alternative could be that so many people quit that the game dies.

    Which would you rather see happen?

    I would LIKE to see PVP fixed...........

    reality is though, if the game was going to die, it would have NOTHING to do with whether they have a small scale PVP system or Duel System in place.

    Zenimax has already demonstrated that they cannot fix Cyrodiil. How long will you wait for it?

    One year?

    Three?

    I guarantee you that most people are not going to wait that long. Especially when Black Desert, Camelot Unchained, and Star Citizen drop.

    But believe what you want. Time will tell all, just as it did with the B2P transition rumors.
  • PKMN12
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    Valymer wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Valymer wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Valymer wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    The fact that people actually said no to this just blows my mind. This would be the most fun thing ever. Also, testing your builds against your friends makes for stronger PVP'rs. It's 100% an all around fantastic idea.

    it also lessens PVP in Cyrodill............

    Maybe that is a good thing because +999 ping at Nikel just now led quite a number of people to log off, according to zone chat.

    All you Cyro fanboys, I get it. I really do. We were promised large-scale PvP and that is not something that people want to give up on so easily. But the fact is that Zenimax's track record does not show them to be capable of fixing the lag problems; if anything they have gotten worse as time goes on.

    So while you are worried about people leaving Cyrodiil for small-scale PvP, what you should be worried about is people leaving the GAME because of frustration.

    Loss of players -> lost revenue for ZOS -> slower content releases and bug fixes

    yeah, see, your point also kind of makes it laughable you are even bringing this up. If they will not or can not bring us something they promised, what in your mind makes you think they would EVER do something they do not want to do, and if they EVER did, do it right?

    Well, the alternative could be that so many people quit that the game dies.

    Which would you rather see happen?

    I would LIKE to see PVP fixed...........

    reality is though, if the game was going to die, it would have NOTHING to do with whether they have a small scale PVP system or Duel System in place.

    Zenimax has already demonstrated that they cannot fix Cyrodiil. How long will you wait for it?

    One year?

    Three?

    I guarantee you that most people are not going to wait that long. Especially when Black Desert, Camelot Unchained, and Star Citizen drop.

    But believe what you want. Time will tell all, just as it did with the B2P transition rumors.

    again, what makes you think they will do it right?

    They have shown to be unable or unwilling to basically fix ANYTHING in teh game except for grind spots.
  • Valymer
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Valymer wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Valymer wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Valymer wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    The fact that people actually said no to this just blows my mind. This would be the most fun thing ever. Also, testing your builds against your friends makes for stronger PVP'rs. It's 100% an all around fantastic idea.

    it also lessens PVP in Cyrodill............

    Maybe that is a good thing because +999 ping at Nikel just now led quite a number of people to log off, according to zone chat.

    All you Cyro fanboys, I get it. I really do. We were promised large-scale PvP and that is not something that people want to give up on so easily. But the fact is that Zenimax's track record does not show them to be capable of fixing the lag problems; if anything they have gotten worse as time goes on.

    So while you are worried about people leaving Cyrodiil for small-scale PvP, what you should be worried about is people leaving the GAME because of frustration.

    Loss of players -> lost revenue for ZOS -> slower content releases and bug fixes

    yeah, see, your point also kind of makes it laughable you are even bringing this up. If they will not or can not bring us something they promised, what in your mind makes you think they would EVER do something they do not want to do, and if they EVER did, do it right?

    Well, the alternative could be that so many people quit that the game dies.

    Which would you rather see happen?

    I would LIKE to see PVP fixed...........

    reality is though, if the game was going to die, it would have NOTHING to do with whether they have a small scale PVP system or Duel System in place.

    Zenimax has already demonstrated that they cannot fix Cyrodiil. How long will you wait for it?

    One year?

    Three?

    I guarantee you that most people are not going to wait that long. Especially when Black Desert, Camelot Unchained, and Star Citizen drop.

    But believe what you want. Time will tell all, just as it did with the B2P transition rumors.

    again, what makes you think they will do it right?

    They have shown to be unable or unwilling to basically fix ANYTHING in teh game except for grind spots.

    You are absolutely right, but at this point it's either have blind faith in them or just quit playing. I still get enough enjoyment out of playing...for now.

    Or to put it another way: I have a lot more faith that they could add dueling without mucking it up too bad than I do that they could ever fix Cyrodiil's problems to everyone's satisfaction.
  • SIXR_sCaR
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    SIXR_sCaR wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    SIXR_sCaR wrote: »
    Duels are coming
    hopefully ;)

    They have repeatedly, even just today, said no, no it is not coming, deal with it.

    alot companies say alot things
    end day what people ask for
    people will get
    patience is key

    yes, because what you say is SOOOOOOOOOOO true (hint: IT is not at all true what you say, ESPECIALLY in regards to an MMO)

    you seem to have alot salt , have some fries
    Edited by SIXR_sCaR on May 30, 2015 4:29PM
  • shiva7663
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    Duels would be a great way for RP guilds to hammer out their leadership hierarchy. heh.
  • Zazaaji
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    I have always hated PvP in RPG games (other games like Mario Kart is great though), and I completely avoid Cyrodil all the time. That being said, I still think this would be an excellent addition, at least as an option.
    English is not my first language, Finnish is.
    Please don't heap on me for grammar problems.
  • SIXR_sCaR
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    shiva7663 wrote: »
    Duels would be a great way for RP guilds to hammer out their leadership hierarchy. heh.

    Who is king of north lol
  • Valymer
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    SIXR_sCaR wrote: »
    shiva7663 wrote: »
    Duels would be a great way for RP guilds to hammer out their leadership hierarchy. heh.

    Who is king of north lol

    Jon Snow
  • Taz
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    My man and I love kicking each others' butts. But we love playing with each other more; the only way to duel each other right now would be to make alts on different factions and meet in Cyrodiil, and that's no fun for the main gameplay. Furthermore it would be fun, player-generated content to do things like host little dueling tournaments and the like.

    To SAFEGUARD dueling:

    1) Implement it so there is no dueling in cities or you get the guards on your tail if you try (perhaps the criminal underbellies have those things that rhyme with night pub that you're not supposed to talk about). This should declutter dueling in main hub areas.

    2) You start with the option of accepting duels turned off. Thus the people who want them have to activate it, and it's no effort or big deal for those who don't want them.
  • Heromofo
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    YES to duels within Faction ( comment why you would want it too)
    74% votes for. We have the majority of the votes. Now bring us duels and small scale PvP. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    Lol dont know why but this came to mind when reading that.

    Sheldon: I play my endless serpent. Raj will play ecstatic frenzy, which means Larry will have to play chaos overlord, then Captain Sweatpants, molten river. I play nightshade dryad, game, set and match. Now fetch me Wil Wheaton! bortaS bIr jablu’DI’ reH QaQqu’ nay’

    Wil Wheaton: Did that guy just say revenge is a dish best served cold in Klingon?

    Stuart: I believe so.

    Wil Wheaton: What is wrong with him?

    Stuart: Everyone has a different theory.
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